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    So the Garmin map updates for the CR-V installed nav are free for 5 years.

    How do I get them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelor View Post
    So the Garmin map updates for the CR-V installed nav are free for 5 years.

    How do I get them?
    Open your glove compartment or visit https://honda.garmin.com/honda/
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    Quote Originally Posted by zroger73 View Post
    EX to EX-L NAVI difference is $3,500 which adds a LOT more than just navigation (power tailgate, leather, auto dimming mirror, HomeLink, driver's seat memory, power passenger seat, additional speakers, and HD radio).

    EX-L to EX-L NAVI difference is $1,000, so that's a more fair comparison to your $2xx Garmin.

    Advantages of the $1,000 factory system over a $2xx Garmin:

    1. No unsightly power cords to plug in, suction cups, Velcro, or adhesive.
    2. Dead reckoning (vehicle sensors are used to update the vehicle's position on the map when you lose GPS signal).
    3. FAR less likely to be stolen - you don't have to hide it or remove it each time you leave the vehicle.
    4. Sends solar angle to the HVAC system to help it compensate for the direction sunlight is entering the cabin.
    5. Redundant instructions appear in the instrument cluster.
    6. Physically integrated with the vehicle for a factory appearance.
    7. Covered under the vehicle's three-year (standard) or up to eight-year (extended) warranty instead of one year.
    I've gone to a lot of trouble in getting my last two cars to get one equipped with the features I wanted and not be forced to buy the built in nav. I have used portable Garmin units for 10+ years and I prefer them because:

    1. I can buy a refurbished 5" unit that has the same warranty as new (and they look new) with lifetime maps for just over $100 rather than $1,000+ for a built in unit.

    2. I get 4 map updates per year by simply plugging it into my computer.

    3. I can move it from car to car in moments.

    4. They have gotten cheap and plentiful and I no longer worry about them being stolen whether I lock my car or not.

    5. They are generally more detailed and easier to customize than the built in units.

    6. I can place them on or near the console where they don't interfere with anything else and the cords, etc. are not a problem.

    7. I have never lost my GPS signal for more than seconds (once or twice) so "dead reckoning" is not an issue.

    8. "Sends solar angle to the HVAC system to help it compensate for the direction sunlight is entering the cabin." must be a joke since HVAC works on temperature.

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    Seems to me that the built in Nav vs standalone or using the phone is turning into a "team sport" where in particular, those wanting to not pay for the extra nav simply refuse to acknowledge that not everyone has the same priorities or values. There is value in each decision. It's up to each owner to decide what makes the most sense to them.

    I have several - of both. There are advantages and disadvantages for both. I fail to comprehend why people feel that they need to evangelize the elimination of built in nav.

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    I wasn't aware that the NAV has an in-console display feature. I have not seen any mention in any reviews, images, nor threads here until now. Can someone provide some insight on how it works? Any pictures you can point me to? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by osbornk View Post
    8. "Sends solar angle to the HVAC system to help it compensate for the direction sunlight is entering the cabin." must be a joke since HVAC works on temperature.
    Actually, temperature AND solar radiation AND sometimes humidity, solar angle, and occupant temperature. For several decades, automatic climate control systems have included a "sunload sensor" (usually on top of the dash) that is used to detect the amount of solar radiation entering the cabin and compensate for it. Some of these systems use a dual-element sensor to determine which side of the vehicle the sun was entering for side-to-side adjustments. For many years, Honda/Acura vehicles with navigation have sent the angle at which solar radiation is entering the cabin based on the position of the sun as determined by the vehicle's heading and position derived from GPS to the HVAC system.

    My 2017 Ridgeline, for example, has sensors not only for cabin and ambient temperature, but also a humidity sensor, a solar radiation sensor on top of the dash, and it also knows the angle at which the sun is entering the cabin from the factory navigation system. The additional information is used to adjust fan speeds and outlet temperatures in a zoned fashion to offset the effects of radiant heat.

    Several years ago, Jeep used infrared detectors aimed at the occupants to detect their skin temperature as an additional input to the climate control system.

    So, automatic climate control systems no longer work solely on temperature - and that's no joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zroger73 View Post
    Actually, temperature AND solar radiation AND sometimes humidity, solar angle, and occupant temperature. For several decades, automatic climate control systems have included a "sunload sensor" (usually on top of the dash) that is used to detect the amount of solar radiation entering the cabin and compensate for it. Some of these systems use a dual-element sensor to determine which side of the vehicle the sun was entering for side-to-side adjustments. For many years, Honda/Acura vehicles with navigation have sent the angle at which solar radiation is entering the cabin based on the position of the sun as determined by the vehicle's heading and position derived from GPS to the HVAC system.

    My 2017 Ridgeline, for example, has sensors not only for cabin and ambient temperature, but also a humidity sensor, a solar radiation sensor on top of the dash, and it also knows the angle at which the sun is entering the cabin from the factory navigation system. The additional information is used to adjust fan speeds and outlet temperatures in a zoned fashion to offset the effects of radiant heat.

    Several years ago, Jeep used infrared detectors aimed at the occupants to detect their skin temperature as an additional input to the climate control system.

    So, automatic climate control systems no longer work solely on temperature - and that's no joke.
    I am so stupid. I thought if you set the temperature at 70 and it cooled the interior to 70, that was enough and works like it does in my house. I set mine and it cools in the summer and heats in the winter and I don't care how it does it as long as it is the temperature I select.

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    In your house, just a simple air temp sensor is sufficient. But in your car, the temp can vary wildly depending on location. Somebody in direct sunlight is going to be hot, even if the rest of the car is at a comfortable temp. The dash may be hotter than the seat. Cold seats and steering wheel are going to chill you even if the car is warm, and vice-versa. And the total heating or cooling load varies far more than in a house, where insulation takes care of much of it. (The A/C unit for a typical car could easily cool a small apartment!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zroger73 View Post
    It will be loaded with the latest version as of the date the maps were packaged and loaded into the vehicle at the factory (maps updates are not part of the pre-delivery inspection).

    No big deal if you don't have the latest version - as stated, updates are free for 5 years and are very simple to install.

    Keep in mind by the time map updates are released, they're already anywhere from months to years old (depends on the area). It takes time to gather map data from a variety of sources, put it all together, distribute the updates, and install them. Typically, you can bank on the latest map data being at least a year old. The "2017" update (which was released late in 2016) obviously doesn't include anything past that release date.
    We recently purchased a 2017 CR-V EX-L w/Nav and love it so far. However while experimenting with the navigation in our area it failed to find some restaurants that were 3-4 years old. I went through the update process on Garmin Express and it stated this was the most updated version (2.03). Is this the most updated version??

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_psychic View Post
    I wasn't aware that the NAV has an in-console display feature. I have not seen any mention in any reviews, images, nor threads here until now. Can someone provide some insight on how it works? Any pictures you can point me to? Thanks!
    here is the link to the navigation owners manual. This should anser all you questions (I hope for both of us). The built in nave also has voice commands and give directions also under the speedometer. http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...ATLA1717NV.pdf

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