Re-programming a key fob doesn't work
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    Re-programming a key fob doesn't work

    I managed to locate a key fob (keyless entry do-hickey) for my '98 CR-V and I also was given re-programming instructions. Unfortunately, there are problems and I'm wondering if anyone else has re-programmed a fob and run into a similar situation.

    The actual programming (documented below) seems to work as I get the mechanical/audio responses mentioned in the instructions. However, after programming is completed, only the UNLOCK, HATCH OPEN and PANIC buttons cause correct responses. The LOCK button does nothing!

    Why this is really confusing is that the LOCK button is the one used to signal the receiver during the programming.

    Has anyone else run into this situation?

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    Programming Instructions

    Honda Keyless Entry Programming
    1998 - 2002 Honda Accord
    1999 - 2004 Honda Civic
    1997 - 2004 Honda CRV
    2003 - 2004 Honda Element
    1999 - 2004 Honda Odyssey

    This procedure clears the transmitter codes and creates new ones, so you must program all remotes at the same time, even if one or more is already working.

    Enter the car, and close all doors.

    Each of the following steps must be completed within five seconds of completing the previous step. If you take longer or make a mistake, start the entire procedure over again.

    Insert the key into the ignition, and hold one remote in your left hand. Whenever the instructions say to press the LOCK button, you should press the lock button on the remote for about a second and then release it.
    Perform each of the following three steps in order, then repeat all three steps two more times, for a total of three times each:

    1. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position, marked II.

    2. Press the LOCK button.

    3. Turn the ignition switch to the Off position, marked I.

    Do this three times!

    Next, turn the ignition switch to the ON position (II) for a fourth time.

    Press the LOCK button again. The door locks should now make a cycling sound, indicating that the system has entered Programming Mode.

    Press the LOCK button one more time to program this remote. If you have other remotes to program, press the LOCK button on each one in turn. The door locks should make the cycling sound after you press LOCK on each remote. You may program up to three remotes, and they must all be programmed within ten seconds of each other.

    Turn the ignition off and remove the key. The remotes are now programmed and may be tested.

    If you've got a trunk/hatch release, hold the button for this function for a few seconds.

    My '98 V is at 253,000 Km as/of Jan. 1, 2010

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    Did you have all your other remotes present when doing the programming? And did you try reprogramming each remote?
    And are you sure the new remote you obtained is the correct remote for your model? And does the lock button not work on all the remotes or judt the new one?
    Last edited by tkcr; 04-01-2009 at 10:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkcr View Post
    Did you have all your other remotes present when doing the programming? And did you try reprogramming each remote?
    And are you sure the new remote you obtained is the correct remote for your model? And does the lock button not work on all the remotes or judt the new one?
    I only have the 1 remote. The car didn't have any when I bought it. And the stock number on the remote is supposedly correct for this '98 CR-V. I'm stumped.
    My '98 V is at 253,000 Km as/of Jan. 1, 2010

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    Well I'm stumped too. Have you tried to do the programing again? I'm sure you have, just asking. And this remote you obtained, is it new or used?

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    While we are trying to troubleshoot this issue. I can offer you a brand new remote, then you'll have 2 if we can get other one to work. I've had it posted on the trading post. $20 plus $5 for shippingThe problem could be in the other remote especially if it's used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkcr View Post
    Well I'm stumped too. Have you tried to do the programing again? I'm sure you have, just asking. And this remote you obtained, is it new or used?
    This is a used remote.

    As I said earlier, the LOCK key itself works because that is what is used to programm the damn thing. It simply doesn't do anything after the programming is finished.

    It may be the keyless door lock control unit itself that's faulty or it might be the drivers side door lock knob/switch that's part of the circuit.

    I just noticed a slight difference in the programming procedures in the 1997-2000 HONDA CR-V Service Manual. I will try that next.
    My '98 V is at 253,000 Km as/of Jan. 1, 2010

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    These are the istructions out of the official manual for honda remotes. Try these and see if that works



    1997-04 LX with dealer-installed keyless
    entry system
    1998–04 CR-V EX with factory-installed
    keyless entry system
    2000–01 CR-V SE with factory-installed
    keyless entry system
    2000–04 S2000 with factory-installed keyless
    entry system
    2002–04 CR-V with dealer-installed security
    system
    Programming the Transmitter
    NOTES:
    • The system accepts up to three transmitters. The
    transmitter codes are stored in a stacking-type
    memory. If a fourth transmitter code is programmed,
    the code for the first transmitter is erased.
    • Entering the programming mode cancels all learned
    transmitter codes, so none of the previously
    programmed transmitters will work. You must
    reprogram all of the transmitters once you are in the
    programming mode.
    • You must complete each step within 4 seconds of
    the previous step to keep the system from exiting the
    programming mode. Program the transmitters within
    10 seconds.
    1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
    2. Press the “Lock” or “Unlock” button on one of the
    transmitters. (An unprogrammed transmitter can be
    used for this step.)
    3. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
    4. Repeat steps 1, 2, and 3 two more times using the
    same transmitter used in step 2.
    5. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
    6. Press the “Lock” or “Unlock” button on the same
    transmitter. Make sure the power door locks cycle
    to confirm that the system is in programming mode.
    7. Within 10 seconds, press the “Lock” or “Unlock”
    button on each transmitter. Make sure the power
    door locks cycle after you press each transmitter
    button to confirm that the system accepted the
    transmitter’s code.
    8. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0) to exit the
    programming mode.
    Ordering a Transmitter
    Transmitters can be ordered only by authorized Honda
    dealers. Order them from American Honda using
    normal parts ordering procedures.
    Batteries for the Transmitter
    The battery number is CR2025.

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    And here's another, it's the same just written alittle different.


    Transmitter Programming
    Storing transmitter codes:
    The codes of up to 3 transmitters can be read into the
    keyless receiver unit memory. (If a fourth code is stored,
    the code which was input first will be erased.)
    NOTE: It is important to maintain the time limits
    between the steps. Make sure the doors, hood and hatch
    are closed.
    1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
    2. Within 1 to 4 sec., push the transmitter lock or unlock
    button with the transmitter aimed at the vehicle.
    3. Within 1 to 4 sec., turn the ignition switch OFF.
    4. Within 1 to 4 sec., turn the ignition switch ON (II).
    5. Within 1 to 4 sec., push the transmitter lock or
    unlock button with the transmitter aimed at the
    vehicle.
    6. Within 1 to 4 sec., turn the ignition switch OFF.
    7. Within 4 sec., turn the ignition switch ON (II).
    8. Within 1 to 4 sec., push the transmitter lock or
    unlock button with the transmitter aimed at the
    vehicle.
    9. Within 1 to 4 sec., turn the ignition switch OFF.
    10. Within 4 sec., turn the ignition switch ON (II).
    11. Within 1 to 4 sec., push the transmitter lock or
    unlock button with the transmitter aimed at the
    vehicle.
    12. Confirm you can hear the sound of the door lock
    actuators. The keyless receiver is now in the programming
    mode. You must push the transmitter
    lock or unlock button of the first transmitter again to
    program that transmitter.
    13. Within 8 sec., aim the transmitters (up to three)
    whose codes you want to store at the receiver, and
    press the transmitter lock or unlock buttons.
    Confirm that you can hear the sound of the door
    lock actuators after each transmitter code is stored.
    14. Turn the ignition switch OFF, and pull out the key.
    15. Confirm proper operation with the new code(s).

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    Exclamation Success

    Thanks, guys. I got it working!

    I knew it had to be circuity since the LOCK button was itself not faulty.

    It was the driver's door interlock switch. The switch wasn't closing correctly because this door has dropped about 3/4 of an inch from true. When the door closed, the rubber bushing (used to push the switch striker plate) was brushing the striker plate and not getting a 100% hit. I first noticed this about 1 week ago when I found my dome light on with the car doors closed. I switched the light to the OFF position making a mental reminder to investigate this condition -- which I promptly forgot.

    Since I had already determined that I needed to lift the door and re-set the hinges, I now I have yet another reason to fix it.
    My '98 V is at 253,000 Km as/of Jan. 1, 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkcr View Post
    These are the istructions out of the official manual for honda remotes. Try these and see if that works



    1997-04 LX with dealer-installed keyless
    entry system
    1998–04 CR-V EX with factory-installed
    keyless entry system
    2000–01 CR-V SE with factory-installed
    keyless entry system
    2000–04 S2000 with factory-installed keyless
    entry system
    2002–04 CR-V with dealer-installed security
    system
    Programming the Transmitter
    NOTES:
    • The system accepts up to three transmitters. The
    transmitter codes are stored in a stacking-type
    memory. If a fourth transmitter code is programmed,
    the code for the first transmitter is erased.
    • Entering the programming mode cancels all learned
    transmitter codes, so none of the previously
    programmed transmitters will work. You must
    reprogram all of the transmitters once you are in the
    programming mode.
    • You must complete each step within 4 seconds of
    the previous step to keep the system from exiting the
    programming mode. Program the transmitters within
    10 seconds.
    1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
    2. Press the “Lock” or “Unlock” button on one of the
    transmitters. (An unprogrammed transmitter can be
    used for this step.)
    3. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
    4. Repeat steps 1, 2, and 3 two more times using the
    same transmitter used in step 2.
    5. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
    6. Press the “Lock” or “Unlock” button on the same
    transmitter. Make sure the power door locks cycle
    to confirm that the system is in programming mode.
    7. Within 10 seconds, press the “Lock” or “Unlock”
    button on each transmitter. Make sure the power
    door locks cycle after you press each transmitter
    button to confirm that the system accepted the
    transmitter’s code.
    8. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0) to exit the
    programming mode.
    Ordering a Transmitter
    Transmitters can be ordered only by authorized Honda
    dealers. Order them from American Honda using
    normal parts ordering procedures.
    Batteries for the Transmitter
    The battery number is CR2025.
    Just want to thank TKCR and everyone else for these fob programming instructions. I bought a 2002 Honda CR-V and it only came with one fob. I bought a fob for $20 and used these instructions to configure it (worked first shot). I now have two fobs, and $60 in the bank that would have gone to the Honda dealer.

    Don

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