Diesel CRV 07 gearbox problem

[wiz2003]

I have noticed that there are a number of posts on several websites, including whatcar, about problems with the gearbox.

My CTDi suffers from what can only be described as dodgy synchromesh in first gear and intermittent synchromesh in second gear.

When first taken to the dealer, they confirmed that it did not appear to be right.

Five months on, and I got an official response from Honda, apparently before this had been communicated to the dealer.

"Honda have determined that the problem that you have with your gearbox is a characteristic of the gearbox fitted to the Diesel CRV."

I hope that this does not result in a major problem after the expiration of the warranty.

[Will1234]

I am sat here after noticing my 08 crv had become "clonky" in 2nd and third. It is a manual btw. The dealer suggested changing gearbox oil..now I am no expert bit surely this won't help. I would like to know if anyon else has had similar problems.

I am wondering if this is a common fault as woudn't expect it on a car with 5000 miles on it.

Please excuse any spelling mistakes as tapping this out on my iPhone sat in dealers waiting for the bad news.

[wiz2003]

I suspect that you will get the same response as I did... Please let me know...

[Will1234]

....surprise surprise. In addition I got the amber warning light the day after I came back form dealer and had to top up with engine oil.

Changing gear is awful on the car at the moment and this isn't acceptable to me on such a new car.

I guess they are going to have to remove the gearbox next but I will keep you posted.

[Will1234]

I spoke to the dealer today who relayed a message from Honda. Apparently they said that Honda have recognized this as a problem in both the petrol and diesel models ad have fixed the problem in the petrol model but have not had the same luck with diesel fix. When I pressed them they said it was a sync mechanism problem and that if they are researching a solution to the problem. I said well what happens next if Honda fail to come up with a solution soon, as changing gear in my crv is like driving my first car a metro. They said that we would push for a new gearbox to be fitted under warrenty. So I am now waiting for the "fix" whatever that may be.

[ndj]

This is not on! I would be looking to reject the car. It's a long shot due to the length of time you've had the car but maybe getting 'legal' will expedite the fix, or a new 'box. This is their problem not yours. BTW, I successfully rejected my wifes new Suzuki earlier this year when I found evidence of paint repairs (after it left the factory but before delivery). Wouldn't hesitiate to do it again.

I'm a long time Honda owner currently considering a new CR-V purchase. You may want to ask them if I should be concerned about a gearbox with a known problem before making a decision to buy. ATB.....NDJ

[Jimbo_EX]

There is a known synchromesh issue on the Civic Type R gearbox, which affects second gear - probably the same fault...

[Will1234]

I approached trading standards and explained my problem.

I have written to the dealer quoting sales of goods act as advised by ts, exposing I would be rejecting the car if no remedy.

The dealer rang me today. He explained there was no fix again and that a new gear box would not fix the problem. I said that he has to either:

A fix
B replace
C refund

Within 7 days.

My question is how do I actually return car? It sounds sillybut do I just turn up withthe keys and say there you go? Ts say it is my right.

I do really like the car but surely a functioning gearbox is fundametal to the cars quality. I Cannot believe Honda or the dealer will fix this car.

[ndj]

In my case I initially took the car back to the dealer and had their sales manager and aftersales manager inspect the car. They wanted the option (legally correct) to 'make good' the problem. I rejected this because the (new) car had been subject to body repair before delivery so painting it again did not 'fix' the problem. I guess you are now at this stage.

So, based on advice found only on the Internet I advised them verbally that I was formally rejecting the car. As this was the first time this had happened to them they wanted to take advice from the manufacturer (Suzuki). I gave them 1 day to do so. Legally your contract is with the dealer not the manufacturer so that was irrelevant.

I returned the vehicle to the dealership the following morning. I handed them a letter stating my formal rejection of the car, detailed reasons, the mileage of the vehicle, and that the car was now 'in their care'. I also stated my preferred resolution (new identical vehicle). I handed back one set of keys but I think legally you 'should' hand back both & the V5. I asked them to write to me immediately confirming receipt of my letter and acknowledging the car was in their care.

In my case they supplied a courtesy car immediately and a new car arrived 4 weeks later! Result

Be aware though that we had only owned the car for a few weeks so legally I was in a strong position. I believe it's 'harder' to reject a car and have a watertight case the longer you have owned it, but please take professional advice on that point.

HTH (sorry for long post).....NDJ

[Will1234]

Dealer rang today and said they they are going to replace:

The wire crv gear linkage cables

If that doesn't work then they will change the gearbox for a crv demonstrator they have with 4000 miles on it.

I said well why not a new gearbox then and they said Honda can't guarentee
that a new gearbox won't have the same problem.

That doesn't say a lot about Honda quality...but at least they are doing something.