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lovemycrv07
07-19-2007, 08:56 AM
I just bought my new 2007 crv and love it but the highway noise is a real problem with me i am not use to it. I have been driving a saturn for many years and it seems like the crv is alot louder. I have looked into other reviews from crv owners and people have said its a problem because of the insulation i have looked into products like dynamat and B-quiet will this help? It seems strange that honda doesn't focus on this but have options like back up camera and gps and i dont think it's right i need to invest money to install products that quiet a new car. What can honda do to solve this problem of highway noise???

connermt
07-19-2007, 09:08 AM
I just bought my new 2007 crv and love it but the highway noise is a real problem with me i am not use to it. I have been driving a saturn for many years and it seems like the crv is alot louder. I have looked into other reviews from crv owners and people have said its a problem because of the insulation i have looked into products like dynamat and B-quiet will this help? It seems strange that honda doesn't focus on this but have options like back up camera and gps and i dont think it's right i need to invest money to install products that quiet a new car. What can honda do to solve this problem of highway noise???

Having owned many a Saturn & an 07 CRV, I find it quite surprising you think the CRV is louder than the Saturn!
Is it wind noise, engine noise, tire noise or vibration that you notice?

irwinje
07-19-2007, 09:24 AM
Unless you made the transfer from a VUE to the V, I don't think you're comparing apples to apples. If you are comparing the road noise between a Saturn coupe and the V then no wonder the V has more nooise, it is a SUV that is heavier, has bigger wheels, bigger tires and is less wind resistant.
And FYI: The reason back up sensors and GPS are options for the V and road noise dampening isn't is because most people don't think about road noise being a factor in vehicle purchase. Its something that occurs to them after they've been driving their new car for a couple weeks and can't really do anything about it. I think Dynamat would be the way to go for you. The other option, the one that I usually use, is just turn the radio up that much louder.:D

lovemycrv07
07-19-2007, 09:58 AM
well what bothers me is the tire noise it sounds like i am dragging something also the wind noise it only happens when you reach say 45-50. Would new tires make a big diffrence i have heard yes and no

Black Pearl
07-19-2007, 11:23 AM
One of the negative features in most of the reviews I read before buying the vehicle was the road noise and tire slap. So while I was not surprised, I have agree that the road noise is considerable, but it doesn't bother me. I can't say that wind noise is much of an issue.

Much blame has been attributed to Bridgestone Duelers although some of the other tire brands are claimed to be noisy as well. If you read through some of the tire threads you will occasionally see someone claim that a certain brand of tires are less noisy. But the problem also seems to be inadequate noise isolation in the vehicle.

07CRVOWNR
07-19-2007, 12:01 PM
Here is my recent experience. My 07 is the first SUV/CUV type of vehicle that I have ever owned. Yes, it is louder than my previous car, a 200 Pontiac Grand AM GT. But I expected it to be so due to the different nature of the types of vehicles. My wife and I took the CRV this past weekend for the first long trip from Northern Virginia to Ohio and back. We cruised around 80 mph (Yes, we both have lead feet). I didn't find the road noise to be too much of an issue. I was able to clearly listen to my hockey podcast without the volume being set at maximum (the podcast is usually on the low side in voice volume), meaning the road noise didn't drown out the person speaking. The wind noise wasn't too bad either since we were crossing the Appalachian Mountains. There were some pretty good wind gusts at the peaks of these large hills, as I call them.

In case of comparison, my 07 has Continental Tires. I don't have enough experience with SUV/CUV tires to say these are better or worse than any other types since this is my first experience with a SUV/CUV.

Carvingbarn
07-19-2007, 12:16 PM
I have had my 07 CR-V 5 days I am coming out of a 97 F150 XLT and I am surprised at the road noise the CR-V can have . While the engine noise is more in the truck the road noise on the older surface roads is not as hi as in the CR-V. I did not notice the noise on my test drives because the areas I drove were for the most part, new or nearly new paved roads. I thought it was quiet until I got on older surfaced streets. I agree. Honda could have done more about the road noise. That would have been an inexpensive improvement they could have made to the CR-V. I to will be looking into ways to cut the noise in my new V. I would like to see Honda offer an after market fix. (At a price I could afforded). As Black Pearl said there are a lot of threads voicing a disappointment in this area. I still love the V. But I Hope Honda is hearing this. Friends who I have taken for rides to show off the V have commented on the noise also.

mikey
07-20-2007, 09:13 AM
I guess it depends on what you're used to. I've been driving a 2 seater sports car for almost 20 years and we've replaced a 12 yr. old Mazda Protege with the V. We drive with the radio/CD/XM on and noise is not an issue with us. Certainly no one should be comparing the V to upscale SUVs priced $10-15,000 more. You should get a quieter ride for that kind of money.

connermt
07-24-2007, 12:46 PM
well what bothers me is the tire noise it sounds like i am dragging something also the wind noise it only happens when you reach say 45-50. Would new tires make a big diffrence i have heard yes and no
In regards to tire noise, yes different tires can make a difference, but it can not only be better, but worse. Usually (from my experience) touring tires have less tire noise than high performance tires. Tire that specialize in water displacement often times are noisey, as are run-flat tires. If you have a unidirectional tire on the wrong direction, it makes all kinds of noises.

Freppa
07-25-2007, 10:25 AM
The EU model I have has Bridgestone tyres on them (don't remember what specific make). I must say I am rather impressed by the low sound in the car. Perhaps I am one of the lucky ones.

BR

/F

IceWind
08-01-2007, 12:49 PM
The Bridgestone Duellers are crappy ass tires that Honda slaps on the CR-V's accounts for alot of the roid noise This has been stated time and time again at the HondaSUV forums and changing tires makes a big difference, the Goodyear Assurance Tripletred and Comfortred have been the top ranking ones.

drivezki
08-01-2007, 01:48 PM
The Bridgestone Duellers are crappy ass tires that Honda slaps on the CR-V's accounts for alot of the roid noise This has been stated time and time again at the HondaSUV forums and changing tires makes a big difference, the Goodyear Assurance Tripletred and Comfortred have been the top ranking ones.
If you believe everything you read on forums, seems that you have not been reading enough. All OEM SUV/truck tires used on CR-V's are the same as far as noise goes. Just ask me. I have Conti's. :eek:

And TripleTreds and ComforTreds have real problems maintaining their balance. 'Stated time and time again.' :D

IceWind
08-01-2007, 05:12 PM
If you believe everything you read on forums, seems that you have not been reading enough.

And TripleTreds and ComforTreds have real problems maintaining their balance. 'Stated time and time again.' :D

Nice assumption, must be a canadian thing. I've done my homework thanks.

BTW Canada is a like a loft apartment over a really great party.

Greenzter
08-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Nice assumption, must be a canadian thing. I've done my homework thanks.

BTW Canada is a like a loft apartment over a really great party.

:confused: What do we have here? A smartass?

Nothing wrong with Drivezki's comment. You were the one who stated your assumptions as if they were facts.

miko
08-01-2007, 07:56 PM
Nice assumption, must be a canadian thing. I've done my homework thanks.

BTW Canada is a like a loft apartment over a really great party.
Typical response. If you're at a loss what to say, attack the country. If that doesn't work, how about gender? Size? Color?


What do we have here? A smartass?
I think you may have part of the name correct, Greenzter. Not the first part. ;)

IceWind
08-02-2007, 12:22 AM
:confused: What do we have here? A smartass?

You were the one who stated your assumptions as if they were facts.

WTF, your smoking some good sh1t man, cause I never gave my opinion as a "assumption" I stated that I've read info on other forums specifically HondaSUV in regards to tire replacement and I stated that in my previous post. So unless you wanna contradict an entire forum community that has not stated anywhere about "balance issues" with Goodyears Assurance brand of tires, I suggest you step aside soldier.

Next time, RTFP before you reply, mkay?

IceWind
08-02-2007, 12:26 AM
I think you may have part of the name correct, Greenzter. Not the first part. ;)


Ooooohhhh nice retort, did you learn that one in high school? Cause damn, that was a good one, back in 1960.. :rolleyes:

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2RedV's
08-02-2007, 09:49 PM
Please....

Play nice.


Nothing wrong with opinions but don't attack others.

:)


I had not heard of the Continentals being as bad as the Bridgestones for road noise and also have not heard of balance issues with the Goodyears.
However, I could believe in the Goodyears having balance issues because they are an extremely heavy tire compared to other brands/models of the same size.

miko
08-03-2007, 07:03 AM
I had not heard of the Continentals being as bad as the Bridgestones for road noise

Well, if you read all threads.......... for example: http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1054

As you know CR-V's with Duelers far outnumber Continentals. Naturely there'll be more negative comments.


and also have not heard of balance issues with the Goodyears.
However, I could believe in the Goodyears having balance issues because they are an extremely heavy tire compared to other brands/models of the same size.

Do you ever read the other CR-V forum? Just one of the sources.

Davecr-v
11-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Mine makes a bit of noise but it realy isn't that terrible I mean different tires will help I am at the end of my Duelers and they are loud tires but I hear toyos are good

Greg Fasig
12-21-2007, 10:50 PM
I've owned a 1998 CR-V for nearly 10 years. It was loud when I got it and the bad news is it only gets louder over time. I installed dynamat on the floor and under the hood. I also had a rust proof coating applied and reapplied to attempt to dampen the noise.

Like it or not CR-V owners this car / truck is one of the loudest vehicles there is. Say what you want about tire size, vehicle size or whatever...it is still louder than most.

I think the methods I implemented reduced the noise but I wouldn't say meaningfully. I bought a digital sound meter to attempt to measure the difference without any real success.

It was suggested that I could have applied a sound insulation barrier prior to Z-Bart that would have further reduced the noise. I have no idea if this is correct.

I'm very sorry to hear the CR-V's are still noisy. I certainly would have expected Honda to have taken car of this problem long ago. Guess I definately won't be considering another CR-V as I look to replace my current.

Greg

sleeksilver
12-22-2007, 08:47 AM
If you believe everything you read on forums, seems that you have not been reading enough. All OEM SUV/truck tires used on CR-V's are the same as far as noise goes. Just ask me. I have Conti's. :eek:


You are kidding right?

You are saying different tires will NOT make a difference? Do some research, sir, because you are so wrong I do not even know where to start. :rolleyes:

www.tirerack.com has some good articles.

I'm very sorry to hear the CR-V's are still noisy. I certainly would have expected Honda to have taken car of this problem long ago. Guess I definately won't be considering another CR-V as I look to replace my current.

Greg

Why don't you go test drive it youself instead of listening to some random people on the internet??? The G3 is much quieter than than your G1 CR-V.

2RedV's
12-22-2007, 09:29 AM
I've owned a 1998 CR-V for nearly 10 years. It was loud when I got it and the bad news is it only gets louder over time. I installed dynamat on the floor and under the hood. I also had a rust proof coating applied and reapplied to attempt to dampen the noise.

Like it or not CR-V owners this car / truck is one of the loudest vehicles there is. Say what you want about tire size, vehicle size or whatever...it is still louder than most.

I think the methods I implemented reduced the noise but I wouldn't say meaningfully. I bought a digital sound meter to attempt to measure the difference without any real success.

It was suggested that I could have applied a sound insulation barrier prior to Z-Bart that would have further reduced the noise. I have no idea if this is correct.

I'm very sorry to hear the CR-V's are still noisy. I certainly would have expected Honda to have taken car of this problem long ago. Guess I definately won't be considering another CR-V as I look to replace my current.

GregReplacing your tires would have been easier than doing all the soundproofing.
I have a gen1 and a gen2 and have driven about 10 gen3's. The gen3 is a much quieter vehicle. The people complaining about the gen3 "noise" all seem to have come from a car, not another SUV. You cannot compare a car to an SUV.

cderalow
12-28-2007, 08:29 PM
Replacing your tires would have been easier than doing all the soundproofing.
I have a gen1 and a gen2 and have driven about 10 gen3's. The gen3 is a much quieter vehicle. The people complaining about the gen3 "noise" all seem to have come from a car, not another SUV. You cannot compare a car to an SUV.

I've noticed that on concrete roadways, my continentals literally howl. more so than the old pos bridgestones my wife had on her previous 4runner.

Even more so than the sticky performance toyos I have on my civic...

point of fact, tires have a lot to do with the noise levels, sound insulation has a lot to do with the noise levels, and road surfaces have a lot to do with the noise levels.

in the ideal world, all would be silent, in reality, it's a honda, it's an economy vehicle, and as such, one should expect the quality to speak of that.... sound insulation to make it as quiet as a bentley costs like a bentley...

now me... I've taken a lot of the sound insulation out of my civic.. (doesn't save a lot of weight, but does make it a lot easier to really clean the car)

rprpclark
01-16-2008, 03:42 PM
I have owned a 2001 CR-V since new, with 110000 mi. I have also read extensively about automobiles for several decades.My wife also has a 1998 Accord that is rather noisy. Honda has never considered "quiet" a priority. Toyotas, in comparison tests, invariably are significantly quieter. This tells me that Honda could make their cars much quieter for minimal expense if we bought Toyotas instead, and told them why.

lefooey
01-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Honda has never considered "quiet" a priority. Toyotas, in comparison tests, invariably are significantly quieter. This tells me that Honda could make their cars much quieter for minimal expense if we bought Toyotas instead, and told them why.

Coming from a 1999 Corolla SE to my current 2008 CR-V, the CR-V is much quieter at almost any speed in my personal observations.

drivezki
01-16-2008, 04:46 PM
You are kidding right?

You are saying different tires will NOT make a difference? Do some research, sir, because you are so wrong I do not even know where to start. :rolleyes:

www.tirerack.com has some good articles.

I couldn't care less what you think, but read what I said:
If you believe everything you read on forums, seems that you have not been reading enough. All OEM SUV/truck tires used on CR-V's are the same as far as noise goes. Just ask me. I have Conti's.
OEM tires.

NSI31
02-19-2008, 07:30 PM
Seems to be a lot of emotion here.......

Basic question.....if I replace the (28,000 mile) Duellers with say, a top-of-the-line Michelin, will I really hear a dramatic decrease in tire noise??

Badgerland
02-19-2008, 07:35 PM
Seems to be a lot of emotion here.......

Basic question.....if I replace the (28,000 mile) Duellers with say, a top-of-the-line Michelin, will I really hear a dramatic decrease in tire noise??


Yes...LOTS of emotion!

I replaced mine a few weeks ago with just over 26,000 miles and while I noticed a slight decrease in noise I did see a HUGE difference in performance which was mostly why I wanted the change. I was down around 4/32nds and could have waited...but with the few snow storms we have had in the interm I'm glad that I didn't. FYI I went with Cooper CS4's

CRV-NJ
02-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Uh Oh,I think i got a lemon!!!! What road noise? I bought my 99 Ex V in september 07 and shortly after discovered HandA accessories and this forum through a search for CR-V parts and accessories. I've been following the forum ever since and gained a lot of knowledge about the v. Since i'm new to the forum and this is my first post i will post the maintenance items that have been done to another thread. My only fear was changing the tires thinking i might gain this road noise all the posters were talking about, so i stayed with the brand on the V which were BF Goodrich touring. I put on BF Goodrich traction T/A's. Still quiet,so i must have a lemon!!!

stan
02-21-2008, 02:29 PM
Mine is loud - I think its a combination of the glass roof 19" wheels and the fact that its a 4x4 - Although I havent test driven any other 4x4's recently it seems much more refined than the freelander (old type) and x-trail that I tested a few years ago.

I wasnt expecting it to be quite

pepollock
02-23-2008, 03:01 PM
Tire noise seems to be a major issue, judging from the number of owners responding on this site. SUV tires are designed to look rugged and maybe even work a little off-road. That works against making the tire run quietly on pavement. Passenger car tires are by nature quieter - Camry drivers won't stand for the noise. "Touring" tires are generally quieter than "performance" tires. So find some touring tires to fit the CR-V and you are heading the right way. Elsewhere on this forum someone suggested a Cooper tire that was said to be quiet. If you can find a Cooper Tire dealer, give them a try. And let us all know how they work out.

Keep in mind that these are big tires with a high specified air pressure (better fuel economy). I don't recommend dropping the tire pressures but it might make them a little quieter.

The B'stone Duelers on my '07 are very noisy (a couple of friends asked me if they were snow tires!) and they are poor in rain and snow besides. I don't think I have ever wished for tires to wear out before, but these guys have got to go.

Pete

Badgerland
02-23-2008, 05:28 PM
I think it might have been me with the Cooper CS4 thumbs up. I replaced the OEM's when they were just below 4/32nds because we still had a bunch of winter yet to come. Had this been late March instead of early Feb I may have waited...but I have nothing but good things to say in regards to performance in the snow\slush and the noise is a bit less than OEM's.

jpntaka
12-07-2008, 07:08 PM
I have a 2006 Honda CR-V and I can't stand the noise as well.

I think if you sound proof the car it would be a lot more quieter.

Greenfield
01-19-2009, 10:33 PM
you can take it cut the road noise down or out yourself , shops do it for a price it is a project but you will enjoy the results later

Deano
01-28-2009, 10:57 PM
Have an 08 crv and have read about the road noise and i was suprised that i sure don't have any. My wife has an 07 Rav and i think the crv has less noise than hers does for sure. Is as quiet as the corrola we have also. No issue at all for me. Maybe it is the tires and not the car.

electric V
01-29-2009, 04:25 PM
O my gosh I have a terrible noise also. I thought that it was only me but it happens to everyone else too I am just amazed. I have a 1998 CRV LX and the noise is just unbearible. Everytime i floor the acellerator the engine just goes up to redline like a normal car and the engine noise is so loud. When i spin the tires there is a ton of tire noise and engine noise and generic screeching and people yelling at me. And finally when I drive off road there is a ton of road noise there is rocks pinging up underneath the undercarrige, un belivable tire noise all the noise just wants to make my head explode. :D:rolleyes::):p

Wait, I think that I am causing the V to make all of that noise because of the way I drive???????

Really people take the roof rack off the top of your V, get rid of the bug Deflectors, and new tires will make a complete difference I recomend BF Goodrich Priemer Touring Tires They are great for rain and snow and they are extreemly quiet.

P.S. I used to have some El Dorado tires they are worse than the Dueler belive me. and everyone should just lighten up a little okay.:)

I mean no harm

Energy One
04-15-2009, 08:39 PM
I have a 2008 and mine is quiet, is it defective?

GTCB-chris
04-16-2009, 08:55 AM
noise? haha try having a first gen with dual straight pipes. no muffler, resonator, or cat

harold
04-16-2009, 11:53 AM
Both my Honda's are loud! Old pavement makes them louder. Good tires help, but not much. This is one area Honda does poorly? My opinion only. I have a 2006civic hybrid and a 2006 v. I like both cars thu! Hal:D

Serj22
04-16-2009, 07:12 PM
Both my Honda's are loud! Old pavement makes them louder. Good tires help, but not much. This is one area Honda does poorly? My opinion only. I have a 2006civic hybrid and a 2006 v. I like both cars thu! Hal:D

why is the hybrid loud? theyre supposed to be quiet:D

harold
04-16-2009, 09:07 PM
Serj22:
Not sure why? I have insulated with some results. I keep thinking the under-body faring may be trapping the noise, but haven't taken them off to find out. Taking the car in to find out if it has the rear upper control arm issue [Neg camber.] Most of the road noise is comming from the back. I clean the pebbles out of the tire tread on a regular bases and that helps a bit. LRR tires tend to give more noise as well plus 44lbs.adds a bit! Great car thu if I can get the noise down a bit. Very economical and very reliable!:D
Cheers,
Hal

harold
04-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Oh, and my V is the same colour as yours with factory roof racks and running boards. Hal

Serj22
04-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Putting insulation i na car isn't so bad. It may be because of the battery compartments in the rear seat, instead of just regular padding in a non-hybrid civic. That and the engine may need to spool up a lot further when it's using fuel at higher speeds. That may actually add to the noise now that I think of it.

harold
04-16-2009, 09:27 PM
Actually, the engine is very quite. Even at 5000 rpm's on the mountain roads. As you know it has a CVT trans. Normally it cruises at about 1600 ,1800 rpm. I did insulate under the rear seat and behind the back rest. Also did the trunk and rear wheel wells. Some put insulation under the rear floor mates as well. I hope the rear control arm problem does the trick! Hal

Serj22
04-17-2009, 04:48 PM
YEah if all that is already insulated I'd say the control arm could be the issue.

stephen
04-27-2009, 04:41 PM
This is an interesting thread, because we notice that most of the road noise appeared to emanate from the rear cargo area of our 07 CRV...at the suggestion of my wife we purchased some of the 3" foam from Joannes fabric store and cut them to fit the bottom of the well, then we covered it in a black material and it really does seem to work a treat ! especially when sitting in the rear seats....

Stephen..

if anyone is interested I'll post a pic of the said foam pieces...

Serj22
04-27-2009, 05:30 PM
That's an intriguing idea that a lot of people thought of but never did. Did you make sure the foam was heat resistant? Because that area heats up quite a bit because of the exhaust.

stephen
04-27-2009, 06:08 PM
Mrs says she thinks it resistant....here's a couple of pics...

Stephen

Serj22
04-27-2009, 06:13 PM
Oh, you went that route, I thought you meant they were under the trunk, but I forgot the new Cr-v stores the tire there now, that's where you'd want to insulate. Does the insulation on top of the trunk floor help? By the way ,the heat won't effect it there, I thought you meant it was underneath.

GTCB-chris
04-27-2009, 06:22 PM
honda uses such thin metal, you would think they are made of aluminum foil

Serj22
04-27-2009, 08:10 PM
YEah, I walked around in the trunk without any of the carpeting or trim and the metal was literally bending and re-positioning and creaking -not so sturdy, and I drilled through it for a ground wire - didn't even really get a chance to start the drill before it was all the way through.

harold
04-27-2009, 08:23 PM
I like your insulation idea Stephen, Hal:D

Serj22
04-27-2009, 10:14 PM
You can also put the regular carpet on top of those pads and that way just make it look like a raised trunk.

EternalCRV
04-28-2009, 08:29 AM
My 2002 CRV is the loudest suv, truck ,or car I've ever owned. Sound control was not even a thought with the design.

A product like dynamat or a spray on sound control product may be the best option.

I feel bad for anyone who is using an amp and speakers in their CRV, and anyone sitting next to them at a stoplight.

This is not including noise from factory installed tires..........which can add to the problem.

My friend's Acura doen't have this problem........you get what you pay for.

GTCB-chris
04-28-2009, 08:42 AM
YEah, I walked around in the trunk without any of the carpeting or trim and the metal was literally bending and re-positioning and creaking -not so sturdy, and I drilled through it for a ground wire - didn't even really get a chance to start the drill before it was all the way through.
thats what happened when installing my reverse light

Serj22
04-28-2009, 08:56 AM
My 2002 CRV is the loudest suv, truck ,or car I've ever owned. Sound control was not even a thought with the design.

A product like dynamat or a spray on sound control product may be the best option.

I feel bad for anyone who is using an amp and speakers in their CRV, and anyone sitting next to them at a stoplight.

This is not including noise from factory installed tires..........which can add to the problem.

My friend's Acura doen't have this problem........you get what you pay for.

hehehehe. My car isn't that loud on the outside or allowing noise from the inside, it's got 2 inch thick padding all around. oh yeah. Only thing that can't be solved is the vibration from things in the cup holder or the center table when I got the doof doof going.

motoguy128
08-14-2009, 01:55 PM
I wonder if Honda uses as little sound dampening material as possible to reduce weight. I also think much of the tire noise is resonated in teh chassis, the the root cause is that Honda chose ot give hte car road feel. the cost of the stiffer bushings is more NVH being transmitted to the cabin. I still like the trade-off. NOTHING else steers liek Honda, unless you start looking at luxury sedans or sports cars.


I love our Nissan Altima...but I will admit, the steering is a little dead...but guess what... no road noise like my Accord had.


Just an observation and a little guesswork on my part.


Could be worse...you could have bought a 3800lb Equinox which has lifeless steering, soft suspension but is very quiet. GM is better that most former truck base SUV owners that buy it's Equinox are used to cars that steer like tanks and have absolutely no road feel... so they should think the Equinox is a sports car by comparison. I've driven a Yukon and a Expedition.... Yikes!!! I'm shocked folks don't have more accidents in thsoe things. I suppose they force you to slow way way down. It seems like I'm always getting stuck behind one of those lumbering beasts.

JeriRat
08-22-2009, 02:48 PM
I came from a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee and my CR-V is much quieter. It's not as quiet as DH's Acura TSX but that's a luxury sedan. Yes, there is road noise but even at highway speeds it's still not bad.