'Goodyear Assurance TripleTred' Tires

[conix]

HI,
I would to change my tires for the "Goodyear Assurance TripleTred"
I read some reviews and they sound good but none of the reviews was on a CRV.
Does someone have experiences with this tires?
What do you think?

Thank you

[2RedV's]

HI,
I would to change my tires for the "Goodyear Assurance TripleTred"
I read some reviews and they sound good but none of the reviews was on a CRV.
Does someone have experiences with this tires?
What do you think?

Thank youI have not purchased a set. However, they are a heavy tire. This may be one of the reasons people like the ride and quietness. However... I repeat... It is a heavy tire. This would put an extra load upon brakes, require a slight additional amount of power (torque) to overcome the weight upon acceleration, etc.... That being said, people report they are quiet and smooth.

Go to tirerack.com and check out the reviews.

[drivezki]

They are also 'unidirectional'. Many consider that a disadvantage for a vehicle with a full sized spare. I do. Always do 5-wheel rotations.
:) Just my 2 cents.

[conix]

Thanks drivezki, but please can you be a little bit more specific about what you wrote?
also,I have done some search on it and I got this definition:

"Designed specifically to rotate in only one direction, unidirectional designs enhance straight-line acceleration by reducing rolling resistance. These designs also tend to provide shorter stopping distances, and often aid in wet traction and handling. Tires with unidirectional treads must be dedicated to a specific side of the vehicle."

What does the red sentence mean?
conix

[Black Pearl]

Thanks drivezki, but please can you be a little bit more specific about what you wrote?
also,I have done some search on it and I got this definition:

"Designed specifically to rotate in only one direction, unidirectional designs enhance straight-line acceleration by reducing rolling resistance. These designs also tend to provide shorter stopping distances, and often aid in wet traction and handling. Tires with unidirectional treads must be dedicated to a specific side of the vehicle."

What does the red sentence mean?
conix

If a tire is mounted on the left side of the car it spins CCW going forward. Mount it on the right side of the car it spins CW going forward.

The tire can only be placed on the driver's side or the passenger side but not both. When rotating the tires you must keep left side tires on the left side, and right side tires on the right. You can't do the typical crossing sides when rotating the tires. You can only rotate them front to rear, and rear to front maintaining the same side of the car.

A unidirectional tire must always spin in the same direction--except of course when you are backing up.

What I am not sure of is if you can remove the tire from the wheel and mount it backwards and place it on the other side. Not very practical in any case.

When radials first come out back in the 70's you were supposed to keep the tire on the same side of the car all the time because the belts could shift or some such nonsense. I don't know if there was any truth to that or not, but it was common wisdom at the time.

However if a tire today is sold as a unidirectional tire, it must spin in a given direction and can only be mounted on one side of the car. As such unidirectional tires have limitations in rotating the tires and for the use as a spare.

[Black Pearl]

Being a bit more awake this morning, I looked at the TripleTred on TireRack.

Quote from the description

"On the outside, the Assurance TripleTred radials have a directional tread design with a dry road zone featuring stable shoulder blocks to provide confident maneuvering on dry roads, an intermediate water zone with carved Aquachutes to direct water away from under the tire tread to maintain more contact with the road in the rain, and a central snow and ice zone featuring a heavily siped interlocking rib to enhance traction in light snow and on ice. "

Its quite simple, run them backwards and the "Aquachutes" will direct the water under the tire. Here is a picture from TireRack. The pattern of the tread requires the tire to spin in one direction only.

[Davecr-v]

Being a bit more awake this morning, I looked at the TripleTred on TireRack.

Quote from the description

"On the outside, the Assurance TripleTred radials have a directional tread design with a dry road zone featuring stable shoulder blocks to provide confident maneuvering on dry roads, an intermediate water zone with carved Aquachutes to direct water away from under the tire tread to maintain more contact with the road in the rain, and a central snow and ice zone featuring a heavily siped interlocking rib to enhance traction in light snow and on ice. "

Its quite simple, run them backwards and the "Aquachutes" will direct the water under the tire. Here is a picture from TireRack. The pattern of the tread requires the tire to spin in one direction only.

Hey I got a quesion actually starting to look at these tires and was wondering I have a perfectly fine Dueler on the back couldn't you just use that as a spare instead of an assurance I cant figure it would be that big a del since most people don't use the spare for long distances anyway you can put it on for 100 or so miles and then get the Assurance replaced or fixed.

[Black Pearl]

Common sense would suggest that there is nothing wrong with using one of your of your old Duellers or any bi-directional tire as a spare. The tire will not perform as well as the TripleTred, but will serve well as a spare that can be used on either side of the car.

The issue is that a unidirectional tire can not be used as a spare on the wrong side of the car.

[Greenzter]

You need to make sure that your old spare is the same outside diameter as the new tires.

I'm also one that would not go with directional tires on my V. Always do 5-tire rotations. Is that not one of the advantages of a full sized spare?

[gunawo]

I bought the Tripletreads a few weeks ago to replace my Bridgestones, Bought them at Discount Tire. I drove about a block and turned around and went back to have my Bridgestones put back on. NOISY,NOISY,NOISY.
You can just look at the tread and tell they are going to be noisy. The outside channels are higher then the rest of the tread. If I were paying attention to what I was buying, I would never had let them sell me these tires.
Anyhow, that was my experience.

[Greenzter]

I bought the Tripletreads a few weeks ago to replace my Bridgestones, Bought them at Discount Tire. I drove about a block and turned around and went back to have my Bridgestones put back on. NOISY,NOISY,NOISY.
That bad? Lot of people are not going to like that. But, it's not the first time I've heard that they are noisy.

[gunawo]

Greenzter,

They were that bad!! The noise reminded me of very agressive snow tires on all 4 wheels.

gunawo

[bozo]

Hi,
I have Triple treds on my 2004 CRV. They were great for about 24 K miles and then started to get noisy. I rotated them every 3K miles which I am told should have kept them quite. that did not, they are supposed to be an 80k tire. I am over half way through the tread at 24k and am changing them to Yokohama Avid TRZs. I will post my initial feelings in aweek or so. Another member is trying the new Toyo tire. You might want read his input also.

Bozo

[bozo]

Hi,
I have Triple treds on my 2004 CRV. They were great for about 24 K miles and then started to get noisy. I rotated them every 3K miles which I am told should have kept them quite. that did not, they are supposed to be an 80k tire. I am over half way through the tread at 24k and am changing them to Yokohama Avid TRZs. I will post my initial feelings in a week or so. Another member is trying the new Toyo tire. You might want read his input also.

Bozo

[Sandpebble]

The reason traction tires make noise is because they have rough surfaces. These rough surfaces give you starting and stopping advantages over smooth quiet tires. It's a winter tire,so put up with the noise until spring and then buy another set of summer tires,for a quieter ride. The reason you hear so much noise is the lack of insulation and the design of the CRV. The 2009 CRV's with Diesel should have a better insulation and perhaps a redundant perferated underbody to make both the noisy diesel engines and tires less noticable. The quiet vehicles like the top of line Lexus and now the new Ford Suv have overcome the noise by designing the vehicles with your ears as a major consideration. The only other way to quiet your CRV is to take up all the carpet and put down fireproof carpet pading,then reinstall carpet over the pad. This is a big job but it has been done before on other noisy vehicles with great results. Remember the tires you put on need strong sidewalls as SUV rated tires do. Passenger tires are to weak in the sidewalls and can cause rollover in a high center of gravity vehicle such as the CRV.:eek:

[bbsmitty]

The reason traction tires make noise is because they have rough surfaces. These rough surfaces give you starting and stopping advantages over smooth quiet tires. It's a winter tire,so put up with the noise until spring and then buy another set of summer tires,for a quieter ride. The reason you hear so much noise is the lack of insulation and the design of the CRV. The 2009 CRV's with Diesel should have a better insulation and perhaps a redundant perferated underbody to make both the noisy diesel engines and tires less noticable. The quiet vehicles like the top of line Lexus and now the new Ford Suv have overcome the noise by designing the vehicles with your ears as a major consideration. The only other way to quiet your CRV is to take up all the carpet and put down fireproof carpet pading,then reinstall carpet over the pad. This is a big job but it has been done before on other noisy vehicles with great results. Remember the tires you put on need strong sidewalls as SUV rated tires do. Passenger tires are to weak in the sidewalls and can cause rollover in a high center of gravity vehicle such as the CRV.:eek:

Hmmm... that is interesting about the sidewalls... I am in the market for new CRV tires... how do I know if it has a strong sidewall? (Forgive my ignorance, I am new to learning about tires!)

[2RedV's]

Hmmm... that is interesting about the sidewalls... I am in the market for new CRV tires... how do I know if it has a strong sidewall? (Forgive my ignorance, I am new to learning about tires!)It is not a big of an issue as he makes it out to be. The CR-V is not a 5000 pound Chevy Suburban or Ford Excursion.

[Sandpebble]

That's why it will roll over,a heavier SUV won't. Why do you think they have sway control on 2006 and newer. Get SUV rated tires with strong sidewalls,that's what they come with from factory.:o

[joetroy]

Replaced the Brigstones at 37000 miles. They were looking bad. The Triple Threads are much quieter and much better traction in winter. I now have about 8000 miles on them and they look new. By the way they are directional but not winter tires.

I have Mich. Hydroedge on another of my cars. They are also directional. Get them rotatede about every 5000 miles and I now have over 50000 miles on them and they look to have another 20-30K left.
No problem with directionals.

[motoguy128]

That's why it will roll over,a heavier SUV won't. Why do you think they have sway control on 2006 and newer. Get SUV rated tires with strong sidewalls,that's what they come with from factory.:o

That's a bunch of nonsense. If anything, the Gen 1 and earlier Gen 2 CR-V's were nore likely to roll withtheir narrower tracks and softer suspensions, typical of vehciles at the time.

Stability control was a added as a general purpose safety feature for all weather conditions, not to avoid roll-overs on dry pavement.

Rollover is affected by center of gravity, suspension stiffness/settings, tire grip and the track dimensions.
IF anything, a large body on frame SUV like a suburban will be less liekly to roll over because it's frame, lacted low, is so heavy, and the suspension design offers little grip. Tire grip being equal, a Suburabm due to it's width and sheer mass, and ride height about the same as the CR-V, is probably a little less likely to roll. But a CR-V is more liekly to avoid the accident all together, with better handling, brakes and just being smaller.


Actually, I'm not sure if stability assist will specifically prevent a roll-over, but keeping the vehicle traveling in the direction of wheel travel will definitely help. At some point, proper steering inputs (stering into the slide) and the application of throttle, are nessesary to prevent a roll-over. VSA can do neither. Only apply brakes and limit throttle applicaiton.

Sometimes a driver must choose between hitting an object or risking a roll-over. If I have to shoose between hitting a car or tree head-on or rolling the car... I'm going to roll the car. OTOH, if its' a smaller object like a deer or debris on the road...I'll hit the debris if I know there's a soft shoulder or steep ditch.

[beige2007]

That's why it will roll over,a heavier SUV won't. Why do you think they have sway control on 2006 and newer. Get SUV rated tires with strong sidewalls,that's what they come with from factory.:o

i think i disagree with you on this. a heavier SUV will turn over a lot easier than a lighter vehicle.....simple physics. i'm sure the IIHS.ORG website can better explain.

[motoguy128]

i think i disagree with you on this. a heavier SUV will turn over a lot easier than a lighter vehicle.....simple physics. i'm sure the IIHS.ORG website can better explain.


Yup. The heavy weight will cause the suspension to compress making hte vehcile body roll more. Body roll raises the center of mass, making it easier to tip over.

Again, the only advantage a heavy SUV might have, is a wider track than a small SUV along with inferior suspension which will not allow as much lateral grip. IF a car rolls with 0.71g of lateral loading, but the tires and suspenson only allow 0.7...it won't roll over. So if a CRV can generate 0.79g's fo grip, but doesn't roll over until lets say 0.90, then it's in the clear. A Suburban OTOH might roll at 0.90g's but has an even wider margin of error, because it only generates 0.72g's before hte tires lose grip. So the CR-V might feel more "tipsey"... but take a glance at the spedometer and you'll realize the CR-V is probably going faster while making ht esame radius.

Factor in that a CR-V has a shorter wheelbase and CAN turn much sharper and you could get the impression that it might be more liekly to roll-over, but given the same set of conditions...it is less likely. The reality, is that is will be more likely to a avoid an accident, so overall it's considered a safer vehicle.