Maintenance Schedule for Honda prior to Maintenance Minder

[chivas1]

Hello,

I plan on following actual mileage rather than following the Maintenance Minder to do my maintenance on my 07 CRV AWD EX. ie, change oil, oil filter every 5k, rotate tires every 10k, replace air/pollen filter every 20k (these items I performed on my 03 accord LX).

Does anyone have the maintenance schedule for any Honda CRV with AWD. This will pertain to owners that have CRV models (I am not sure what year that would fall) prior to the models that have the Maintenace minder program.

Or does anyone have a link that will show the maintenance schedule?
I had the service manual for my 03 accord but sold it on ebay after I traded it for my 07 CRV.

thanks in advanced.

[Greenzter]

This is the 2005 owners manual. Maitenance shedule istarts on page 171.

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/9B0505/9B0505MAINIXA.pdf

Here are all manuals.

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.asp

[2RedV's]

Your 03 Accord is not an 07 CR-V. Don't treat your CR-V as an Accord.

[chivas1]

Your 03 Accord is not an 07 CR-V. Don't treat your CR-V as an Accord.

Hi Red,

You're absolutely right! However , there is nothing wrong with changing oil/oil filter at 5k miles, rotate tires every 10k, replace air/pollen filter every 20k as I did on my 03 accord...

The reason I wanted to see a scheduled maintenance based on mileage is just to give me a ball park figure on when to perform certain items, regardless of what the maintenance minder will display.:D

[chivas1]

This is the 2005 owners manual. Maitenance shedule istarts on page 171.

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/9B0505/9B0505MAINIXA.pdf

Here are all manuals.

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.asp

Thanks for the links Greenzter!

[2RedV's]

Hi Red,

You're absolutely right! However , there is nothing wrong with changing oil/oil filter at 5k miles, rotate tires every 10k, replace air/pollen filter every 20k as I did on my 03 accord...

The reason I wanted to see a scheduled maintenance based on mileage is just to give me a ball park figure on when to perform certain items, regardless of what the maintenance minder will display.:DNo, there insn't anything wrong with it, but your new V doesn't NEED oil changes every 5k miles. Tires rotated, YES. Pollen filter, whenever dirty... Oils and engines have improved a lot since then. Americans change oil way too often. Have a $20 oil analysis done for peace of mind. Report the results here.

[Adam's Mom]

I was just going to ask something similar, since waiting 8,000 miles for an oil change really goes against the grain for me. I've always put high milage on my vehicles (25,000 a year), and was religious about changing oil and other maintenance.

Could someone explain to me *why* it's now OK to go 8,000 miles without an oil change? And what do you recommend for rotating tires on the 07 CRV? I just dropped it off for oil change and tire rotation at 10,000, and they really tried to dissuade me from doing the oil change so *early.* So any info. on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[07exlowner]

Could someone explain to me *why* it's now OK to go 8,000 miles without an oil change?

I think you'll probably get a different answer from each person (which I think is a great thing about these forums because it allows you to see everyone else's opinions and then you get to decide for yourself what's best for you)

This is what I've gathered from what I've read on this forum and also from searches online:

Some people believe that it has never been necessary to get an oil change every 3-5k miles but that it's a marketing scheme to bring in more business since people would be changing their oil more regularly (I'm no expert, but I believe there is some truth to this)

Others believe that at one time it was necessary to get an oil change every 3k miles, but that was when engines and oils weren't as good (here's one explanation: http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#The%203000%20Mile%20Myth) Supposedly some new cars still require oil changes every 3k miles but I know nothing about that. Again, I'm no expert but believe that, like all technologies, engines and oils have become better over time, so they probably do last longer.

Finally, some people believe that it is indeed necessary to change the oil every 3-5k miles. Others might call them foolish, brainwashed, and/or wasteful, but I believe they (the 3-5k mile oil changers), like most of us, aren't really too sure what's best for their cars, so they err on the side of caution. Are they wasting their money by getting rid of perfectly good oil? Maybe, maybe not. But if it lets them sleep better at night, then good for them. Who knows, maybe I'll begin doing the same.

I believe a good option (which I have yet to do myself) would be to get an oil analysis done to see exactly how good the oil in your engine is and at what mileage. By the way, does anyone know of a reputable place to get this done (preferably in the NYC area)? I have seen online that there are kits you can buy and then send your oil in, but are these any good?

[Black Pearl]

I was just going to ask something similar, since waiting 8,000 miles for an oil change really goes against the grain for me. I've always put high milage on my vehicles (25,000 a year), and was religious about changing oil and other maintenance.

Could someone explain to me *why* it's now OK to go 8,000 miles without an oil change? And what do you recommend for rotating tires on the 07 CRV? I just dropped it off for oil change and tire rotation at 10,000, and they really tried to dissuade me from doing the oil change so *early.* So any info. on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

and one that I have wrestled with myself. Of course there is always Bobistheoilguy.com. I have found using BOB is like looking for an albino rattlesnake in the Grand Canyon..keep looking, you will eventually find it--no matter how many years it may take, but how do you know that information is reliable? I had read the Oil Myth site as well and it seems knowledgeable.

Third generation owners don't even get the benefit of a published maintenance schedule. Here is the schedule from the 2006 manual:

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/9B0606/9B0606O00187A.pdf

Basically it states 10 K normal service, 5 K for severe. Now Honda should know right? But it also states 90K 5 years normal, 60K 4 year severe for the rear differential, which seems to be absolute BS.

If you read the opinions of the members of the forum, no matter what you do you're wrong. I believe that 07exlowner probably offer's the most sage advice. Collect the opinions and decide for yourself. I can guarantee one thing: if your engine fails, none of us that are offering all this advice is going to send you a check to help with the repairs.

In another thread, I stated my solution to this problem and my rationale and acknowledged that each of my choices are totally stupid and idiotic to save other members the time and effort of pointing out what a fool I am. So, with the warning that all my choices are totally wrong, here is my oil change philosophy:

1. I follow the Maintenance Minder. When it gets to 15%, I change the oil, oil filter, and whatever else it recommends.

2. I use synthetic oil, because I am uncomfortable with a 9000 mile oil change. A total waste of money, but it is my money to waste. I won't mention the brand but it does not begin with an A.

3. I use Honda filters. I don't know what the best brand of filter is, nor do I really care. Sometimes better is worse. Filtration is somewhat of a complex discipline. If engine oil operates in a certain environment of particle size, and you put a "top quality super duper wonder filter" that filters particle sizes much smaller than the particles that the engine normally forms, it would seem to me that you are going to have lovely oil until the filter plugs up with a bunch or harmless particulate, then you have no oil filter at all. So my solution was to leave the engineering to Honda and choose Honda oil filters. I have been informed by some that this was a very poor choice. My continued insistance on the use of Honda filters proves how mentally deficient I am.

4. I change the oil filter everytime. Another total waste of money, but again it is my money to waste, and it is not very much money.

In no way is the above a recommendation for what you should do, because it is totally wrong in so many ways. But it was the solution that made me feel comfortable.

My recommendation is to change it at 3,000... no 10,000... no use a long life synthetic and change it at 25,000...no don't waste your money... do this... do that...yack yack yack yack.

Decide for yourself, and unless you have a fetish for public deprecation or a love for argument, keep your choice your secret.

Oh yes, and by the way, I acknowledge that I did not even attempt to answer your question--because I don't know.

[2RedV's]

I was just going to ask something similar, since waiting 8,000 miles for an oil change really goes against the grain for me. I've always put high milage on my vehicles (25,000 a year), and was religious about changing oil and other maintenance.

Could someone explain to me *why* it's now OK to go 8,000 miles without an oil change? And what do you recommend for rotating tires on the 07 CRV? I just dropped it off for oil change and tire rotation at 10,000, and they really tried to dissuade me from doing the oil change so *early.* So any info. on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!Actually, it is not "now" it is OK, it has been for years. At least you have an honest dealer.

The rest of the world has used what we in the US call "extended oil change intervals" for years with no issues. Getting oil changes done more frequently than really needed only benefits the place that changes your oil and the oil company. How often have you heard of someone blowing an engine due to oil-related failure? It is almost unheard of.