View Full Version : What options would you like to see on the CR-V?
jdfj316
12-28-2007, 08:20 AM
I wish Honda would give the U.S. options like:
1. Power Passanger seat
2. Auto day/night mirror (I know this can be added as dealer option)
3. Auto on/off headlights
4. HID's
5. Homelink
6. 200hp 2.4 engine from the Accord
How about anybody else, what would you like to see added to the CR-V? I know this would push it closer to the Acura RDX but I for one would pay a few more dollars to get these things. I liked the style of the CR-V better than the RDX, that's why I choose it after I looked at both.
Black Pearl
12-28-2007, 09:15 AM
I would like to see more flexibility in the trim lines. I bought an EX over an LX for the privacy windows, shelf, and variable intermittent wipers. I didn't want the moon roof, alloy wheels, and chrome grill.
Variable wipers and heated mirrors should be at least an be option on all three trimlines if not standard equipment. The shelf should be an option on the LX.
It would be nice to have audio options and nav options on all of the trimlines.
One thing that I will say, I am glad that Honda treats fog lights and roof racks as options rather than standard equipment. At least I didn't have to pay for those.
perfchris
12-28-2007, 11:47 AM
I wish Honda would give the U.S. options like:
1. Power Passanger seat
2. Auto day/night mirror (I know this can be added as dealer option)
3. Auto on/off headlights
4. HID's
5. Homelink
6. 200hp 2.4 engine from the Accord
How about anybody else, what would you like to see added to the CR-V? I know this would push it closer to the Acura RDX but I for one would pay a few more dollars to get these things. I liked the style of the CR-V better than the RDX, that's why I choose it after I looked at both.
Even the RDX does not have the power passenger seat.
The auto day night mirror could be installed with the homelink buttons and the HID headlights have been done by a fellow CR-Ver on hondasuv.com.
Hughesy
12-28-2007, 12:02 PM
I like the Honda philosophy of having very few extras on the top spec. This is better for company car lease (due to the way extras are financed) and used vehicle buyers.
On the UK model I would have loved these features:
1. Automatic diesel - preferably a DSG style box that doesn't reduce mpg
2. Proper bluetooth hands free integrated into navigation (like BMW, Audi, etc.) i.e. Sim access profile to get all the numbers from the phone but make calls using the car phone, list contacts, program and dial from the touch screen. It is crazy that all numbers have to be programed by voice...
3. Electric passanger seat
4. Memory seats & mirrors (and a dipping nearside mirror)
5. Cooled seats
6. Radar cruise control at sensible price, i.e. £500 not £2000
7. Option of 17" alloys instead of 18" on EX trim
8. Factory fit headrest DVD screens
9. Keyless entry and go (standard on comparable Nissan X-Trail)
10. Redesigned knee panels in the front, so it scores the maximum 5 stars in Euro NCAP crash test (http://www.euroncap.com/tests/honda_cr_v_2007/282.aspx), instead of 4
DaveC
12-28-2007, 01:58 PM
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1. Automatic diesel - preferably a DSG style box that doesn't reduce mpg
2. Proper bluetooth hands free integrated into navigation (like BMW, Audi, etc.) i.e. Sim access profile to get all the numbers from the phone but make calls using the car phone, list contacts, program and dial from the touch screen. It is crazy that all numbers have to be programed by voice...
Those would be my top two as well. Having had an A6 with bluetooth through the MMI, the Honda bluetooth integration leaves a lot to be desired.
Dahmer
12-28-2007, 11:46 PM
personally that sounds like a lot for a light SUV designed for the average joe. that's why honda has acura and toyota has lexus and VW has Audi.
my question however is what the hell does EX and LX mean? one obviously has niftier things, but do they stand for something? which one has the better features?
Black Pearl
12-29-2007, 12:27 AM
Don't know what they stand for, but the LX is the least expensive and of course has less nifty things. The EX-L has all the junk that the EX has but also has leather seats, better stereo, navigation option, power drivers seat (08) and dual climate control (08) and a few other things like heated mirrors, storage console.
Maybe they mean: Least eXpensive, EXpensive
I agree with you 100% on the light SUV for the average joe. If these folks have their way, my next car will have to be a KIA--I won't be able to afford a CR-V. If someone wants all these pricey goodies, buy an Acura.
Hughesy
12-29-2007, 04:39 AM
The Acura brand only exists in North America.
Why shouldn't the average Joe have these features? Like many luxury or technology innovations, what was once only available on top end cars is now common place (like electric windows, A/C, ABS). I think rain sensors, auto lights and climate control are nearly in the 'average Joe' category now.
I want a fully loaded car without paying German prices.
The CR-V is still dirt cheap compared to a BMW X3!
Black Pearl
12-29-2007, 09:16 AM
The Acura brand only exists in North America.
Why shouldn't the average Joe have these features? Like many luxury or technology innovations, what was once only available on top end cars is now common place (like electric windows, A/C, ABS). I think rain sensors, auto lights and climate control are nearly in the 'average Joe' category now.
I want a fully loaded car without paying German prices.
The CR-V is still dirt cheap compared to a BMW X3!
I am aware of the Acura not being available in Europe. My comment was more or less meant for my fellow North Americans who gush over the features on the fully loaded European Vs.
I don't know too many "average Joes" who are driving new $45K to $50K cars. I can't afford a BMW X3 nor could I afford your V. I can afford my V and I am betting that if we strip the pricey goodies off your V it is pretty damn similar to mine. So either I am getting a lot bang for my buck or you're getting raked over the coals for some expensive toys.
What is an average Joe in the UK? I thought only in America we had people who regard themselves middle class whether they make $20,000 or $500,000. I was under the impression that the class structure in the UK was more defined and understood.
One of the reasons a working class average Joe such as myself should not have all these goodies is that they tend to break over the 10 to 12 year period that we keep the car and it gets very expensive to replace luxury toys on a old car. It depends on the functionality of the toy. If the rain sensors quit working but you can still turn on the wipers manually, so what? If you can't turn on the wipers, hmmmm, then you are in trouble
Hughesy
12-29-2007, 03:03 PM
either I am getting a lot bang for my buck or you're getting raked over the coals for some expensive toys.
I think you get a lot of bang for your buck. Like many things in the US, prices are kept low because of competition and a large market (economy of scale).
We also have the special situation in the UK of right hand drive cars. New car sales of around 2.5 m per year are large enough that producing RHD variants doesn't add much cost. The problem is that we can't shop around so much (except cheap imports from Japan, also RHD).
Tax is also an issue. If you think the UK is expensive, try Denmark, where there is a 130% tax put on new vehicles. The top spec CRV EX (with CMBS) is 630,000 Danish Krone (http://www.honda.dk/sw7920.asp)= £62,000 = $124,000. Ouch. The CR-V is definately not a car for average Joes in Denmark!
You are right though, the CR-V is probably an above average car here. I guess I am ignoring small and cheap cars because they are off my radar. I would consider an 'average' car to be something like a VW Passat, Audi A4, BMW 3, or Ford Mondeo. The sort of car driven by a thirty something family man with a professional job. Actually I feel lucky to drive a nice car like the CR-V, and there is no way I could afford, for example, a 5 series BMW (which my boss has). Maybe in a few years...
The fundamental components of our CR-Vs are the same, and all are good cars!
jeprox
12-29-2007, 10:47 PM
i would like to see the following on north american models:
- oem alarm across the board, not only on middle/top of the line models
- new accord 200 horses engine
- standard roof rack across the board
- alloy wheels across the board and middle/top of the line models
paying close to C$29k for a vehicle, imo - all of the above should come standard.
Davecr-v
12-30-2007, 12:30 AM
I just find a manual mode HID's Electric seats and an engine with a turbo is good enough I understand that we can't have radar cruise control which is good because being a radar detector user that would just be annoying, other than that what is the V really missing honestly its just if I am spending more money I would tend to go for a 7 seater or a Lux sedan the benefits of big SUV's are extra space and ride comfort and I doubt you can get a ride comfort/soundproofing option.
2RedV's
12-30-2007, 08:41 AM
i would like to see the following on north american models:
- oem alarm across the board, not only on middle/top of the line models It already has an immobiler - why do you need an alarm?
- new accord 200 horses engine
The Accord engine won't have the lower end torque that you really want
- standard roof rack across the board
Some people don't want a noisy (see the other threads) roof rack stuck up there.
- alloy wheels across the board and middle/top of the line modelsCost. Steel wheels are cheap. For those in snow country, buying an LX means getting snows mounted on the factory steelies and buying a nice set of aftermarket tires/wheels for the summer.
paying close to C$29k for a vehicle, imo - all of the above should come standard.
Honda (and Toyota, etc.) have long ago decided to offer just 2-3 packages or trim levels. This is what you get type of marketing. This drastically lowers their cost and complexity of building cars. This is opposite of the American Big Three (and Porsche, Mercedes, BMW) who would let one order a car with any of a myriad of options to pick from.
Black Pearl
12-30-2007, 09:11 AM
I think you get a lot of bang for your buck. Like many things in the US, prices are kept low because of competition and a large market (economy of scale).
We also have the special situation in the UK of right hand drive cars. New car sales of around 2.5 m per year are large enough that producing RHD variants doesn't add much cost. The problem is that we can't shop around so much (except cheap imports from Japan, also RHD).
Tax is also an issue. If you think the UK is expensive, try Denmark, where there is a 130% tax put on new vehicles. The top spec CRV EX (with CMBS) is 630,000 Danish Krone (http://www.honda.dk/sw7920.asp)= £62,000 = $124,000. Ouch. The CR-V is definately not a car for average Joes in Denmark!
You are right though, the CR-V is probably an above average car here. I guess I am ignoring small and cheap cars because they are off my radar. I would consider an 'average' car to be something like a VW Passat, Audi A4, BMW 3, or Ford Mondeo. The sort of car driven by a thirty something family man with a professional job. Actually I feel lucky to drive a nice car like the CR-V, and there is no way I could afford, for example, a 5 series BMW (which my boss has). Maybe in a few years...
The fundamental components of our CR-Vs are the same, and all are good cars!
Good points on the market differences between the US and the UK. We tend to forget in the US that we have a such an impact on our market.
With the taxes, I don't see myself moving to Denmark either. I couldn't afford the Trabant there.
It struck me that you and I are after the same thing: exceptional value for our money. We are just looking at it from opposite poles. Hughesy, you are a gentleman. Thank you for the nice reply.
Black Pearl
12-30-2007, 09:31 AM
Honda (and Toyota, etc.) have long ago decided to offer just 2-3 packages or trim levels. This is what you get type of marketing. This drastically lowers their cost and complexity of building cars. This is opposite of the American Big Three (and Porsche, Mercedes, BMW) who would let one order a car with any of a myriad of options to pick from.
Cost cutting of course is good for the consumer so I tend to agree with their philosophy. But.... Honda makes some really odd choices.
Heated mirrors only on a EX-L when they are standard equipment in Canada?
Variable wipers on a EX?
These items are safety equipment and shouldn't be options.
The shelf could easilly be a dealer installed option for the LX.
Regarding the roof rack, I am glad its not standard. If you want a roof rack, you can get one from the dealer or HandA at a reasonable cost. You would pay for the roof rack either way. For those of us who don't want one, we are saved the cost, the effort to remove it, and the space to store it.
cderalow
01-02-2008, 09:47 AM
It already has an immobiler - why do you need an alarm?
The Accord engine won't have the lower end torque that you really want
The high power accord engine has almost the exact same characteristics as the CR-V engine, difference being a higher top end, it has almost the same slow rise torque curve even, though it's slightly offset by the higher redline.
also, in regards to the immobilizer, that does prevent an opportunistic thief from completely driving off with your car, but it doesn't alert others to the fact that your window has been smashed and someone is rifling through your car.
the current system in most hondas is only activated if your door is pried open, it does not have glass, bump or proximity sensors installed.
it would be nice to have that sort of system, but then again, obnoxious for city folk who might have others bump into their car while parking etc.
I would of liked an auto headlight feature. This is standard nowadays. I have already left the lights on a couple of times. My wife and I both hate the plastic steering wheel- shopping for a leather cover right now. It would also be nice to add a thermometer for outside temp.
tsmithvt
01-09-2008, 09:01 AM
It would also be nice to add a thermometer for outside temp.
You don't have one?:confused: Did they discontinue the feature for Gen3 Vs? I have one in my 06 and like having it.
lizzurd
01-09-2008, 10:57 AM
You don't have one?:confused: Did they discontinue the feature for Gen3 Vs? I have one in my 06 and like having it.
EX and EXL have it for 2008....but not on the LX. (North American Market)
Davecr-v
01-09-2008, 03:55 PM
The high power accord engine has almost the exact same characteristics as the CR-V engine, difference being a higher top end, it has almost the same slow rise torque curve even, though it's slightly offset by the higher redline.
also, in regards to the immobilizer, that does prevent an opportunistic thief from completely driving off with your car, but it doesn't alert others to the fact that your window has been smashed and someone is rifling through your car.
the current system in most hondas is only activated if your door is pried open, it does not have glass, bump or proximity sensors installed.
it would be nice to have that sort of system, but then again, obnoxious for city folk who might have others bump into their car while parking etc.
Honestly has anyone here ever heard a car alarm and thought "oh my god someone is stealing a car" no they are pointless noisemakers which theives know how to disable anyway the immobilizer system is fine I hate the alarm on my moms car it is always going off and it locks you out of the car if you close the door.
lefooey
01-10-2008, 02:19 PM
Honestly has anyone here ever heard a car alarm and thought "oh my god someone is stealing a car" no they are pointless noisemakers which theives know how to disable anyway the immobilizer system is fine I hate the alarm on my moms car it is always going off and it locks you out of the car if you close the door.
Honestly I wish more alarms worked like the one on the CR-V. Then hearing the alarm would really mean "someone is breaking into a car" as opposed to "someone walked near a car" or "someone shut their own door too loudly." Realistically it works against all but the smartest and most determined, in that many thieves will smash a window and then OPEN THE DOOR to get in, setting off the alarm. After all, who wants to climb up and over the broken glass?
No, it doesn't protect your car from being rifled through. On mine, at least, the Navi has the little "anti-theft" indicator right on it (though this didn't stop someone from stealing a Kenwood stereo from my previous vehicle - much as they came away with a brick). For the rest of the cargo - use the cargo tray for what it's for. If you're carrying something larger that requires the seats to be folded down then a $5.00 tarp is a good preventative investment.
sleeksilver
01-14-2008, 03:15 PM
Honda has never really done options, only different trim lines and I like it that way.
I WOULD however like to see the panorama roof and the HIDs make it here on the SE model (when it comes) :)
luckyray
01-22-2008, 04:28 PM
Automatic Lights for Vanity mirrors.
In dash or Rear View Compass to show direction.
davos
01-31-2008, 08:42 PM
IT really, really needs a V6 option - after comparing with RAV4 I an see why a lot of people with steer toward Toyota.
And in US version it should have automatic lights and wipers.
Badgerland
02-01-2008, 07:19 AM
Automatic Lights for Vanity mirrors.
In dash or Rear View Compass to show direction.
Your navigation DOES show direction. There is a small diamond on the left hand upper corner that always points north. ;)
Agreed on the vanity lights.
Peter Kay
02-02-2008, 07:21 PM
The storage spaces in the CRV are too small to be of much use. The ones in the door are too shallow to hold most map books, the one on the left side of the dash is small and isn't of much use. There doesn't seem to be any place for cd's. or bridge tokens, change etc. The automatic locking of the doors is driving my wife crazy. This is my first CRV drove an oddessy before.
Honda 367
02-02-2008, 09:17 PM
Honda has never really done options, only different trim lines and I like it that way.
I WOULD however like to see the panorama roof and the HIDs make it here on the SE model (when it comes) :)
I agree. Toyota has too many options in my opinion. Honda is more stream-lined in their model line. I also would like to see panorama roof and HID for the future owners as I will be driving mine for the next dozen or so years.
Travelor
02-12-2008, 11:50 AM
I just sold my Pathfinder LE and purchased a 2008 CR-V EXL. I really miss the automatic headlights and would LOVE HID headlights. The lack of HID headlights was almost a deal breaker for me.
This CR-V is our 2nd CR-V, the other is a 2004 EX.
George
Honda 367
02-12-2008, 03:55 PM
I just sold my Pathfinder LE and purchased a 2008 CR-V EXL. I really miss the automatic headlights and would LOVE HID headlights. The lack of HID headlights was almost a deal breaker for me.
This CR-V is our 2nd CR-V, the other is a 2004 EX.
George
HID is a great feature to have but I think CR-V's headlight has improved over the years from older generation headlight in my view. I know it is not HID but it does its job.
909dude
02-12-2008, 11:55 PM
I agree with the need for auto headlights. I would hope if we are vocal enough they may do an Honda aftermarket option similar to fog lights now.
Cravenfan
04-01-2008, 07:46 AM
My wife's primary, so no big deal, we enjoy it very much so far. But, here's my wish list:
1) Where's the freaking coin holder?
2) Lights for passenger vanity mirror (as I check myself out)?
3) I think I'd actually like to have the console come down and flow into the console on the floor, between the driver and passenger, more like a car (but, that's why I bought my Acadia). I think the space is wasted from the bottom of the current console, to the middle area. That would also place the shifter more like a car, vs it's current spot.
4) Rear windshield washer, it's on, or it's off...no delay (beyond the 7 seconds listed in the manual).
5) Remote starter fob is cool, but it's like carrying a brick on your key chain. I'd prefer to have the key fob have the starter info on it, vs it be on the giagantic key.
6) Get the steering wheel to tilt down just a bit more (I think I mentioned this already somewhere).
7) Rear wiper shooting the fluid out of the wiper blade area, instead of the straight down shot currently (another Acadia thing).
8) Auto headlights would be good.
9) Universal remotes built in, three would be good. Right in front of the sunroof area.
Ps - I'm trying not to compare, two different classes of CUV in my mind, mine has third row seats, V6, etc. I'm happy with both choices, for different reasons. ;) I'm also learning a lot on here.
Peacemaker1911
04-01-2008, 11:23 AM
I would change just 2 things on my 2007. One really erks me after I drove a Saturn Vue Redline with a V6 and AWD.
1. More HP, maybe a bigger engine.
2. Better looking front bumper ( Boat looks not for me)
tuxcrv
04-02-2008, 10:27 AM
- Bluetooth, at least with the Nav since voice commanding is built in.
- Agree on coin storage.
- Vanity lights.
- Auto headlight. Not as big a deal for me as my car doesn't have it. But this car replaces my wife's base Model Toyota Matrix and even that has it.
I have I am pretty happy with the rest of the features for a car in this class.
X-Brawn
04-03-2008, 02:42 AM
1. Power adjustable seats for trim levels BELOW the EX-L
2. Navigation available as an option on the EX trim level (I don't care for leather)
3. Rear seats that can easily be removed or stowed differently
4. The 2.2L diesel engine for the US market.
5. A stronger four cylinder (185HP or so) available as the stock engine, with an optional V6 engine with 247HP or so.
6. Bluetooth available with ALL but LX level stereo systems.
7. Automatic on/off headlights.
8. Turn signal indicator mirrors like on the UK-Europe/Asian models.
dudley07726
04-03-2008, 12:57 PM
1. Rear Flat Folding Seats.
2. Fogs Lights (should Be Standard On An Ex-l)
3. A True Arm Rest/glove Box Between The Front Seats
4. Vanity Mirror Lights
Deano
04-04-2008, 09:07 AM
I would like to see the rear seats fold flat out of the way like the toyota Rav. Does downshift a little more often than i like. Otherwise a great car.
SilverV
04-04-2008, 01:58 PM
All of the above plus a low washer fluid level warning light on the dash like CR-Vs sold in other countries. :D
lizzurd
04-04-2008, 02:11 PM
All of the above plus a low washer fluid level warning light on the dash like CR-Vs sold in other countries. :D
It still amazes me that we have this feature on all our Hondas up here in Canada along with a larger washer bottle in some cases.....and they don;t offer it in the US.
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