K&N filter for 07-08 CRV 2.4L I need 10 Buyers Needed

[hkxstyle]

I have been talking with a Company called Invision Performance Inc. They solid vendors on S2ki, My350z, G35driver, Evolutionm, and socalevo.

Well they told me that If I can get 10 buyers for K&N drop in filters then I would be able to get a lowered pricea on the fliters

1. Hkxstyle
2. Badgerland
3. DaMan
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K&N (DROP IN) AIR FILTER: CR-V 2.4L 2007-UP
Item # KN-33-2377

K&N - High Performance O.E. repalcement (Drop-In) Air Filter,
for Honda CR-V (2.4L) 07-Up

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When it was first developed in 1962, the K&N Filtercharger was a true design breakthrough in air filtration technology. Today, it still is. Because K&N Filtercharger can actually double air flow, which in turn, adds up to 15% extra horsepower. The secret lies in the K&N Filtercharger's unique design. Conventional filters use paper or foam material permeated with millions of tiny, irregular passages, that screen dirt particles out of the air. Because the dirt particles are trapped inside the passages, they eventually clog; and when this occurs, airflow restriction increases dramatically.

With the Filtercharger, a special cotton fabric is sandwiched between the pleated aluminum screen wires, The pleated design provides five times more filtering surface over the element circumference. The cotton / screen wire filter media is then saturated with a formulated air filter oil. Acting like a fluid curtain., this oil attracts particles of dirt and debris which build up on the outside of the filter. This buildup of dirt paticles suspended in oil creates more and more irregular passages that actually create an additional filtering barrier with use.

Not until very fine particles close this secondary "filter layer" does the Filtercharger begin to clog. In most cases, up to 1/8" of dust can cover a Filtercharger before performance is significantly affected. On a street driven vehicle, a Filtercharger can last up to 50,000 miles before service is required. Then because it's made of reusable materials, you can just clean it, apply fresh K&N Filter Oil and Re-install. Of course, K&N has developed biodegradable cleaning products designed to effectively clean the filter without harming the environment through the absence of fluorocarbons. More air flow, increased horsepower, and long lasting performance. Even after 35 years, the K&N Filtercharger is still on the cutting edge of air filtration technology.

Pm me to get on the list and Once we fill up the 10 I will give you the confirmed prices

[Badgerland]

Without having done any search on this product, what is the before discount price and what will it be if you get 10 buyers?

[hkxstyle]

I am looking at 40 shipped to anywhere in the lower 48 states

[hkxstyle]

Need 7 more.. Then Once all payment is recieved It will be shipped out in bulk

[Badgerland]

Need 7 more.. Then Once all payment is recieved It will be shipped out in bulk


Sounds silly, but shipped in bulk to 1 location or each of the 10 locations? :o

[hkxstyle]

its going to be shipped from my location to the 10 people

[devani]

They sell for $40.50...that's bad price for group buy....:mad:

http://www.autoanything.com/air-filters/60A2090A0A0.aspx?kc=MERCPRIC

[davos]

One note - horsepower gain is true only when you are replacing air intake, not just air filter. You can probably see some gain in both horsepower and fuel economy, but do not expect miracles.
For now there is no Air intake kits available for CR-V

K&N Cold Air Intakes - Leader in Performance Air Intake Technology (http://www.knfilters.com/kits.htm)

[2RedV's]

One note - horsepower gain is true only when you are replacing air intake, not just air filter. You can probably see some gain in both horsepower and fuel economy, but do not expect miracles.
For now there is no Air intake kits available for CR-V

K&N Cold Air Intakes - Leader in Performance Air Intake Technology (http://www.knfilters.com/kits.htm)The HP gain, if any, ONLY comes at full throttle. I have K&N filters on several of my vehicles, but only for the convenience of not buying filters all the time. I do not have K&N filters on my 2 V's as they are daily drivers and reliability is of paramount importance. The other vehicles are driven from 100-1000 miles per year.

[NSI31]

The HP gain, if any, ONLY comes at full throttle. I have K&N filters on several of my vehicles, but only for the convenience of not buying filters all the time. I do not have K&N filters on my 2 V's as they are daily drivers and reliability is of paramount importance. The other vehicles are driven from 100-1000 miles per year.

K&N and BOSE are both great examples of excellent marketing...

not measurably better than average ......
not worth the additional cost...
still selling like hotcakes

[davos]

I would have to disagree
K&N would boost power (if you are using intake kit, not replacement filter). Granted it will not happen at 2000 rpm, but that is not really the point of installing one. But one you are over 4000 (according to dyno results they are presenting on their web page) you will see gain 15 to 20 hp.
And for around $200 it is probably the cheapest way to modestly increase hp.

[2RedV's]

I would have to disagree
K&N would boost power (if you are using intake kit, not replacement filter). Granted it will not happen at 2000 rpm, but that is not really the point of installing one. But one you are over 4000 (according to dyno results they are presenting on their web page) you will see gain 15 to 20 hp.
And for around $200 it is probably the cheapest way to modestly increase hp.The word "throttle" means to restrict. You just won't get any gains unless at full throttle.
If using a K&N meant that Honda would gain 15-20, they would do it. Since it doesn't, they don't, nor does any other new car manufacturer.

[tsmithvt]

I would have to disagree
K&N would boost power (if you are using intake kit, not replacement filter). Granted it will not happen at 2000 rpm, but that is not really the point of installing one. But one you are over 4000 (according to dyno results they are presenting on their web page) you will see gain 15 to 20 hp.
And for around $200 it is probably the cheapest way to modestly increase hp.

This one has really been beat hard and put up bloody. A forum search (K&N filters) will bring up several threads on the subject. If you really don't believe the forum members, included in one of them you will find: ISO 5011 Duramax Air Filter Test Report (http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm)
previously referenced by 2RedV's. It is as independent a test as you can get and very complete too.

[davos]

Gentlemen
The test shown was only for quality of filtering. And yes, it clearly shows that OEM filter beat a crap out of aftermarket. There is nothing though about gains or loses i motor hp. I am far from claiming that K&N invented a silver bullet.
They are claiming to give your money back if you will not get hp gain.
And what they are doing seems logical. Inserting a high-flow air induction system (not just replacement for your stock filter) next to low resistance exhaust is one of the first things done to improve performance (e.g. cutting catalytic converter out - which could get you to jail).
By the way - I can not verify this claims simply because never have one installed on my car. I am also not in any way associated with them.
If somebody on the forum have them on any car (they do not make them for CRV) I would love to find their experience.
And while we are on the topic - there is also some claims, I found unsubstantiated, that using higher octane gas gives you better performance and mileage - does anybody have a comment on this. In all my cars I am using regular (87 octane) and so far so good.:)

[tsmithvt]

There is nothing though about gains or loses i motor hp.

If somebody on the forum have them on any car (they do not make them for CRV) I would love to find their experience.

And while we are on the topic - there is also some claims, I found unsubstantiated, that using higher octane gas gives you better performance and mileage - does anybody have a comment on this. In all my cars I am using regular (87 octane) and so far so good.:)

As to HP gains: You need to read the test summary and comments at the end of the test report.

Regarding forum member experience: Take a look at: http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/t1043/

As to higher octane fuel yielding better performance: A higher octane rating refers only to the fuel's resistance to detonation (ping). In older cars, one could advance the timing and perhaps take advantage of higher octane fuel. It doesn't do anything at all for most of us.:(

For the record, we just want to be sure that you have, at least, been made aware of the unadvertised side of the story. This particular subject has deteriorated into arguments before and that's not what this forum is about. If K&N decides to develop a "system" for Gen 3 Vs and you put one on yours, let us know how it works for you. You can add to our database.

[Radar24]

If you do install a lower restriction filter, that in general entails bigger holes in the filter media or a bigger filter. Since the filter is not any bigger…DUH-UH-UH! I do not want to get into a this is better than that type of thing but if you step back, how else could it give you more air volume flowing thru the media? K&N is under the same laws of physics Honda is. Supposedly OEM Honda air filters give more consistent filtration since the media is. I know about the oiled cotton media filter’s are better hand waving type of arguments. How well a K&N filters is a function of how well it is lubricated in any event. Most everyone install it just the way it comes in the box. The two I bought were very poorly lubricated so I reapplied the oil. Even then there is much debate as to how well the oiled filters perform compared to OEM to begin with. Some say this others say that. That is not the point.

Honda will not warranty the engine and it might not run within the parameters the ECU is programmed to run with a lower restriction air filter. I know some will ignore this warning because they are sold on K&N. I have two filters myself in my low mileage S-10s! But if a problem develops in the engine be it premature wear or a software issue, Honda will not warranty it and you are SOL if you use of a lower restriction non OEM filter. Plain and simple!

I thought I might bring that point up! If you do use a K&N or other non OEM low restriction filter you do so at your own risk type of thing. At the cost of a short block these days you might want to think twice about putting one in your daily driver.

If you want to put one in a vehicle you race you are possibly voiding the warrantee to begin with in any event. So it won’t make much of a difference warrantee wise using the K&N filter.

That being said, does anyone have any new dynamometer data to compare with K&N and without performance in an otherwise stock ’07-’09 CR-V? :D

-RG

[MeltV]

K&N hi-flow air filters work. I've used them in many vehicles.
I'd rather have a ram-air setup (CAI or SRI), but I don't find them for a CRV...

[Radar24]

Don't shoot the messenger. I don't set the Honda warranty policy.
The pros and cons of K&N can be debated until dooms day.

Do you by any chance have long term experience?
Like 250k+ miles without any major engine work needed! All of it with a K&N.
K&N filters are one issue there will never be a quorum.


-RG

[spotpup]

I have them in my 08-V and 05 Ion. Prior to that, I had 190K on a 91 Ford Explorer that had a K&N filter from 15k till it was traded in. Follow the maintenance, keep it clean and properly oiled. I would check it with every oil change to make sure it was not getting clogged. I never had any issues with my Explorer due to the K&N airfilter.

There are newer gortex high flow filters on the market which do not require oil to function. I don't know of anyone running one in a car. I do have one in my shop vac though:D Great for handling drywall dust. Take it out, bang it on the drive and it's clean.

[Radar24]

I have a Gore Tex filter in my shop vac too! It does work well in removing the fine dust generated by certain hardwoods. Much better than the old style paper elements.

But this is a vehicle 1000 times more expensive than the shop vac. I do not know for a fact but more than likely once again Honda will not warranty any work necessary as a function of the non OEM filter! A TSB was written and Honda will not cover the engine if a K & N filter is used.
That is a fact!

Back on the Gore Tex media, it is no mystery nor is it a miracle. Finer media of the Gore Tex will filter finer or smaller micron particles. Since the holes that allow the air to pass are smaller for the Gore Tex media then it should get plugged up soner. Right?

So those of you looking for the extra 2% HP increase due to improved filtration only better be prepared to clean your filter once a month to maintain the 2% HP gain. :D

-Rg