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RavenG4
10-03-2006, 07:09 PM
Okay this is annoying. I just bought my '07 CR-V and less than 100 miles the TPMS light has come on. It's annoying. The dealer checked it today said nothing was wrong and reset the light. They told me if it came back on to come back. It came right back on in about 40 miles. I'm going back sunday hopefully they will fix the problem this time around.
Tycer
10-09-2006, 05:00 PM
Mine too. Not fixed yet. They told me to check my tire pressure and restart the engine. Still on. Goes in to reset the light tomorrow. Has the Continental Contact 235/65-17 tires. I asked them to swap the wheels and tires off another one that had the Bridgestones. Wonder if and why that would make any difference.
RichK
10-09-2006, 09:39 PM
On another forum regarding TPMS, the post mentioned Honda advising dealers about certain TPMS codes and the dealer prep person has to follow specific instructions setting up 07 CR-V's for customer delivery.
Quoting from another related post "the made in Japan CR-V's are shipped with the TPMS sensor in a "ship mode". The sensor has to be enabled before use"
Not sure if this is your solution, but would check with your dealer about it.
Personally my 07 V has 145 miles with no TPMS problems yet.
07GTCRV
10-15-2006, 08:18 PM
I thought i was the only one...only 1 day old and the light appeared. took it to the dealer and said nothing wrong. they said they deflated the tire and then it appeared again, then they totally replaced the whole wheel from another one in the lot, then the next day TPMS appeared again. DANG!!!:mad: :eek: :confused: now i got drop it off the dealer again:mad:
MilesR
10-28-2006, 07:34 PM
On my way to work on Friday, the TPMS light came on. I have over 1,000 miles on my 07. On the way home, the light wasn't on. I am attributing this to the colder mornings we are having. I haven't had a chance to get tire pressures with the tires cold.
NCCRVEX
11-05-2006, 08:45 AM
I bought my new CRV one week ago. The TPMS malfunction light started coming on during the 3rd day of driving, then started indicating low tire pressure. I took it back to the dealer Friday. The tech there said he just needed to clear the code and re-set the sensor. The light went off for one day. Now the 'Low Tire Pressure' indicator is back on. :(
I'm going back to the dealer in the morning.
MonkeyNurse
11-13-2006, 11:11 PM
I drove my new CRV for the 3rd time this morning and the TPMS light came on. My sticker says my car shipped from Japan. I really don't have time to take it to the dealer this week but that light is driving me crazy already!
2007CR_V
11-18-2006, 11:19 PM
I had same problem with TPMS light coming on went to dealer first time, they found bad tire, steel on inside sidewall. They took tire and rim off another '07 CR-V. Left dealership, went home.... light came on again. Drove back to dealership following day, they reset light. Drove back home, light came on again??? Went to dealer following day once again, they took tire off rim and placed onto original rim from my CR-V. Problem has not been back since. I now have 3500 miles. Sensors are behind valve stem in each wheel and they work of radio frequency, they are sensative to vibration but do reset after 5 minutes. I hope you have better luck with yours, my problem has since gone away.:D
MilesR
11-24-2006, 12:27 PM
My TPMS light was coming on in the morning, and usually clearing in the afternoon. I was attributing this to the cooler air in the morning. After increasing the tire pressure 4 pounds, the problem has not returned. Even after a 2000 mile trip to the Grand Canyon and back.
gcyeaw
11-29-2006, 09:45 AM
My 3 week old 2007 CR-V has been in the shop for 9 days now due to the TPMS light problem. It sounds like they have a lot of issues with this system.
Gardner
bikn4fn
12-03-2006, 08:50 AM
On another forum regarding TPMS, the post mentioned Honda advising dealers about certain TPMS codes and the dealer prep person has to follow specific instructions setting up 07 CR-V's for customer delivery.
Quoting from another related post "the made in Japan CR-V's are shipped with the TPMS sensor in a "ship mode". The sensor has to be enabled before use"
Not sure if this is your solution, but would check with your dealer about it.
Personally my 07 V has 145 miles with no TPMS problems yet.
I have had the smae problem with my new '07 CRV. After doing some research (google searches), I found this site and another site that sited a possible solution. Here is what the other site mentioned.
"There is nothing wrong with the TPMS system on the new CR-V's. The issue is that the information regarding taking the system out of ship mode was not included in the original PDI documentation. Once the proper steps are followed to wake it up, the system properly reports tire pressure issues, as it was intended. "
I am taking this information to the dealer on Monday. Like some of you have experienced, the deail has said things like "it is the sudden change of weather" or "check your tires drive around the block a few times to reset the system. I'll keep you posted on my progress.
MonkeyNurse
12-03-2006, 12:27 PM
I took mine in and it was fixed in an hour. He said it just needed to be reset. He said it was a training issue with people forgetting to reset them before the car leaves the lot.
bikn4fn
12-05-2006, 08:32 PM
Just picked up my CRV from the dealer service. They said the reset code sequence had chnaged. the first time they reset the codes they used the old sequence. this time they used the updated sequence. I'll just have to wait and see if the light comes back on again.
Mococara
12-08-2006, 07:45 AM
We have 5-days on our 2007 CR-V and about 200 miles. The TPMS light came on yesterday. When we picked the CR-V up at the dealer, the salesman said there's a low tire pressure code set, and had the Service Department air-up the tires, and reset the code.
Sounds like we're not alone......
Otherwise, we love the CRV
Mococara
12-08-2006, 07:46 AM
We have 5-days on our 2007 CR-V and about 200 miles. The TPMS light came on yesterday. When we picked the CR-V up at the dealer, the salesman said there's a low tire pressure code set, and had the Service Department air-up the tires, and reset the code.
Sounds like we're not alone......
Otherwise, we love the CRV[/QUOTE]
HandA
12-08-2006, 02:39 PM
here are a couple of bulletins Honda has had on the TPMS sensors on the CRV. Not sure if either will solve the problems.
Change TPMS tool to work on 07 CRV's: http://www.HandA-Accessories.com/crv/tpms1.gif
Change sensors out of transportation mode: http://www.HandA-Accessories.com/crv/tpms2.gif
Clearing the codes from being left in transport mode: http://www.HandA-Accessories.com/crv/tpms3.gif
-Trevor
Cr-Van
12-09-2006, 11:13 AM
i have my tpms lights on (tire with !) yesterday and today is gone...i guess the weather contribute also...yesterday it was 19 deg. and windy today its 40 deg.
correct me if im wrong
if TPMS light on -letters only- that means having problem with the system
if tire with ! lights on that means the system detect low tire air pressure problem
tayjenn
12-19-2006, 08:25 PM
Same problem here. During the first day of driving that TPMS light came on. I called the dealer and they tried telling me I had low tire pressure. I told them that I had read the owner's manual and that it said the car needed to go in to be looked at if this light came on. They said they had never heard of it not working. Anyway, it is going in this week to get looked at. Hopefully they will fix it right.
2RedV's
12-19-2006, 09:18 PM
Just playing devil's advocate here. Don't flame me.
There is a pattern of "the light came on and I went to the dealer".
Almost no one says "I checked the actual tire pressures."
A $1-$2 tire pressure gauge doesn't count for much. If you doubt me, take your gauge to the Honda dealer. They have all recently been shipped a very expensive and properly calibrated gauge. Ask to check yours vs theirs. Most people will be shocked at how inacurate their own gauge really is.
Frank B
12-21-2006, 08:56 PM
Took delivery with the "light" on..They stated it would go off after a few miles; it didn't..!! After two visits they determined it was a defective monitor in one tire..Replace; overnight visit; they still had problems resetting all the monitors...Light's off now; I guess it's working..:confused:
2RedV's
12-21-2006, 09:06 PM
Took delivery with the "light" on..They stated it would go off after a few miles; it didn't..!! After two visits they determined it was a defective monitor in one tire..Replace; overnight visit; they still had problems resetting all the monitors...Light's off now; I guess it's working..:confused:
This is EXACTLY why the government should try to stay out of the car business. Many new vehicles are having issues with the tire pressure monitoring system, not just Hondas. My guess is that after a few years of these being on cars... people will stop buying tire pressure gauges and checking the actual pressure themselves.
Why is this so bad?
When you walk around your car and physically check each tire's air pressure, you are also getting a look at each tire as well as other areas of the vehicle.
Tycer
01-13-2007, 12:37 PM
Mine was reset last Jan. 02, 2007. Came back on Jan. 3, 2007.
I'll make an appointment for next week and try again.
I'm so disappointed in fuel economy that I'm almost thinking about invoking lemon laws over the TPMS issue to go back to a V6 Accord to get better economy. If gas price remains the same, it will cost me about $1200 more in three years for the CRV over a V6 Accord. :mad:
2RedV's
01-13-2007, 08:08 PM
Tycer... By "reset", what exactly do you mean? Have they really told you what they did, exactly? Are they using the newer reset proceedure? How much air pressure is really in the tires and measured by your own gauge or theirs, or both? Did the outside air temp drop considerably between the first incident and the second?
tayjenn
01-15-2007, 06:01 PM
I took mine in and they fixed it within a few hours (I also had it Simonized). The garage guy told me they had to recalibrate it. That was almost a month ago and it has not come on since.
bikn4fn
01-21-2007, 04:39 PM
No more problems since they used the updated reset codes. I don't know if my mentioning the new sequence had anything to do with getting it fixed right or not. If I had to venture a guess I would would say it probably did.
2RedV's
01-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Nine days? That's ridiculous. I hope you have a freebie loaner.
lcobrae
01-21-2007, 09:21 PM
Just to chime in, bought a CR-V last night, light came on after 100 miles, from my research, looks like its in the shipping mode. I hope I dont have to have my wife's car in the shop for days at a time over this.
luke
beige2007
01-21-2007, 09:34 PM
i'm not sure what the tolerances are for the TPMS but i know i get better MPG with 32 Psi on all 4 tires. Honda recommends 30 Psi but with 32 Psi...your estimated MPG are closer to what the sticker says. as far as the TPMS..does it turn on when the tire pressure is 5 Psi off is it more than 5 Psi? i checked the tires when i first brought my wife's 07 home...not one tire had 30 Psi... it was anything from 26Psi to 29 Psi. i'm sure they got the new reset codes at the dealers for us when our TPMS lights come on....but i'ts always good to check your tire pressure yourself....just my 2 cents:)
beige2007
01-21-2007, 09:52 PM
Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) with location indicators tells the driver when a tire is not properly inflated. Air-pressure sensors inside special valve stems in each of the four tires send signals to a monitoring unit mounted in the rear of the vehicle that relays the current air pressure to the display. If the air pressure of any tire falls more than 25% below optimum, the system will automatically alert the driver via the display. If the TPMS detects insufficient pressure, it automatically engages the Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®).
2RedV's
01-21-2007, 10:29 PM
Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) with location indicators tells the driver when a tire is not properly inflated. Air-pressure sensors inside special valve stems in each of the four tires send signals to a monitoring unit mounted in the rear of the vehicle that relays the current air pressure to the display. If the air pressure of any tire falls more than 25% below optimum, the system will automatically alert the driver via the display. If the TPMS detects insufficient pressure, it automatically engages the Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®).
That's a great quote. If the VSA comes on, it "may" be utilizing the brakes to help out, which would drastically affect fuel mileage!
beige2007
01-21-2007, 10:32 PM
smart little car this CR-V ey!?
lcobrae
01-25-2007, 08:43 PM
I took mine to the dealer, and they reset the light, said the because my spare tire was low it triggered the light. I explained to the service rep what I had discoverd on this forum, he looked at me like why are you telling me about this car, and shrugged it off, 2 hours later.... the TPMS light is on again. Looks like I need to find another dealer, or a spare tire.
Luke
KoroV
01-26-2007, 01:53 PM
After 1,000 miles drove and turned on.
Next day, it's gone. what was it ????:confused:
I am afraid to tell everybody... "TPMS" turns on means
TPMS system is not working. This is the reason.
It is not Air puressure is low or anything.
I red on manual to find this problem.
lhernandez70
02-18-2007, 10:30 PM
i haven't had my crv for not a month yet, and it's been in the shop 4 x's already for the tpms light. they tried already resetting it, replaced a sensor, and replace the valve stems. i going tomorrow to another dealer to see if they can fix it.
lcobrae
03-13-2007, 09:00 PM
Our C-RV has now been in the shop 4 times and counting for the TPMS problem. Apparently Honda has sent the dealer a new tool that has to make the sensors "re-learn" each sensor, and then they have to re-program each sensor. They said this is it, no more problems, Im still skeptical, waiting for the light to come on. Our dealer said that if the problem occurs again they are going to have to fly an engineer from Honda to inspect the car.
siouxnami
03-18-2007, 05:18 PM
When I bought my CRV last week I asked the saleswoman (Fleet Manager) what sort of problems they may have had so far with the CRVs. She told me in the 2WD (which is what I was buying) there was an issue with the TPMS system malfunctioning, but they were hip to the issue now and the system is being put into the correct mode now.
With that information, when my TPMS light came on twice, briefly, I did not consider taking the car in. I looked at all the tires for obviously low pressure, but found none. I should probably get a digital guage, to be sure. If the light comes on again, I will mention it to the service manager and ask how they are resolving the issue.
andy371
05-26-2007, 11:59 AM
Had same TPMS problem. They adjusted the computer and it worked for one week, After 2 more tries that failed they called a hotline somewhere and were told to change sensors in all 4 wheels. It has been OK for a month now/
SSIMacdonad
10-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Here's another issue with the '07 CR-V TPMS. Purchased a set of winter tires on rims, with TPMS, from Honda dealer. Changed them out myself. "TPMS" indicator came on. (By the way, when the TPMS system stops working it shuts off the Vehicle Stability Assist system, which is the really important issue here.)
Dealer charged me $50 to re-set the TPMS system for the winter tires. So, now that I have avoided taking the car to the dealer twice a year to get the tires changed, I now have to take it in twice a year to get the TPMS reset, at $50 a time. So much for progress.
What we really need is an after-market device (like an OBD-2 but for TPMS) that will allow us to reset the system ourselves in such circumstances. Anyone know of such a device?
Adam's Mom
10-23-2007, 12:05 PM
Here's another issue with the '07 CR-V TPMS. Purchased a set of winter tires on rims, with TPMS, from Honda dealer. Changed them out myself. "TPMS" indicator came on. (By the way, when the TPMS system stops working it shuts off the Vehicle Stability Assist system, which is the really important issue here.)
Dealer charged me $50 to re-set the TPMS system for the winter tires. So, now that I have avoided taking the car to the dealer twice a year to get the tires changed, I now have to take it in twice a year to get the TPMS reset, at $50 a time. So much for progress.
What we really need is an after-market device (like an OBD-2 but for TPMS) that will allow us to reset the system ourselves in such circumstances. Anyone know of such a device?
I've been having trouble with my TPMS system and have seen this issue come up a lot about winter tires. I do not know about such a device, though. Can I ask a question, though? Where do you live (approximately) that you need winter tires? All-weathers are just fine down here in Maryland, even when we get a foot of snow. I've never driven much further north in bad weather, though.
SSIMacdonad
10-23-2007, 09:19 PM
Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
We are fanatic skiers.
jordan
10-27-2007, 04:52 AM
My 3 week old 2007 CR-V has been in the shop for 9 days now due to the TPMS light problem. It sounds like they have a lot of issues with this system.
dudley07726
10-27-2007, 01:05 PM
My left front TMPS went bad 3 days after purchasing the car and replaced.
No issues after that.
MOMSCRV
11-05-2007, 12:07 PM
My wife drove her 2007 CRV home from the dealer the day of purchase and the TPMS light came on. The dealer said they had checked the tires before we tool posession, so maybe we picked up a nail on the drive home. I found no nail and the pressure was within the recommended range. Needless to say we brought the vehicle back and the TPMS was reset. On the way home from the dealer, guess what came back on? We have have 3 visits to the dealer and they eventually determined that two of the wheel sensors were bad, and replaced them with no further idiot light coming on. But wait, yesterday my wife called me from the road saying a different light had come on...THE LOW TIRE PRESSURE LIGHT! The temp here in the Northeast had dropped 20 degrees and the stupid light came on. The tires look fine, but I have never had this kind of problem and it is SO UN-Honda like. And I was thinking of getting myself a new Element next year. Maybe not....
Annoyed in the Northeast
cderalow
11-05-2007, 01:20 PM
My wife drove her 2007 CRV home from the dealer the day of purchase and the TPMS light came on. The dealer said they had checked the tires before we tool posession, so maybe we picked up a nail on the drive home. I found no nail and the pressure was within the recommended range. Needless to say we brought the vehicle back and the TPMS was reset. On the way home from the dealer, guess what came back on? We have have 3 visits to the dealer and they eventually determined that two of the wheel sensors were bad, and replaced them with no further idiot light coming on. But wait, yesterday my wife called me from the road saying a different light had come on...THE LOW TIRE PRESSURE LIGHT! The temp here in the Northeast had dropped 20 degrees and the stupid light came on. The tires look fine, but I have never had this kind of problem and it is SO UN-Honda like. And I was thinking of getting myself a new Element next year. Maybe not....
Annoyed in the Northeast
for every 5 degree temperature drop, tire pressure drops 1 pound... so your tires are now 4 degrees lower than they were. if your tire pressure was previously 28lbs or 27lbs or 29lbs, it'd now be below the low pressure indicator. meaning, you need to check the pressures, and put in air to make sure they are at the proper pressure.
Here's another issue with the '07 CR-V TPMS. Purchased a set of winter tires on rims, with TPMS, from Honda dealer. Changed them out myself. "TPMS" indicator came on. (By the way, when the TPMS system stops working it shuts off the Vehicle Stability Assist system, which is the really important issue here.)
Dealer charged me $50 to re-set the TPMS system for the winter tires. So, now that I have avoided taking the car to the dealer twice a year to get the tires changed, I now have to take it in twice a year to get the TPMS reset, at $50 a time. So much for progress.
What we really need is an after-market device (like an OBD-2 but for TPMS) that will allow us to reset the system ourselves in such circumstances. Anyone know of such a device?
The TMPS system does the opposite. If the TPMS system triggers the dash indicator, VSA automatically turns on not off. This is the case even if the VSA was previously manually turned off.
2RedV's
11-05-2007, 06:46 PM
Actually, the rule of thumb for tire pressure loss due to temperature change is for every 10° Fahrenheit change in air temperature, your tire's inflation pressure will change by about 1 psi (up with higher temperatures and down with lower).
This means that if the temp drops 50 degrees Fahrenheit, the tire will lose about 5 PSI.
jheilman43402
11-11-2007, 03:33 PM
My wife's 07 CRV had the same issues with the TPMS we had it into the dealership 4 times every time they replaced something different. first they tries resetting the system then one sensor then the other 3 sensors, and finally the TPMS computer, and that finally did the trick they did the fis the end of sept and the light has not come back on except for when my wife had a drywall screw in the tire and a slow leak the system worked perfectly and told her she had a low tire which she did.
isellhondas
12-18-2007, 09:40 AM
Cold weather will drop tire pressure and it takes VERY little to make those dumb lights come on! I think they are just over sensitive.
Usually after driving awhile the tires warm up and the light go's off.
I wish they had never come out with these!
craig78681
12-19-2007, 07:00 AM
I wish they had never come out with these!
It is my understanding that these TPMS systems are a federal mandate, not something the manufacturers can choose to supply or not. Could they make them work better? Almost everything can be made to work better. Would there be a prohibitively higher cost to design and manufacture? Probably.
My dad raced boats in the 60s. People were always asking him to help them make their boat or car go faster but didn't want to spend a lot of money. Finally he put up a professionally made sign in the garage: "Speed costs money. How much do you want to buy?" :)
Black Pearl
12-19-2007, 07:57 AM
TPMS is Federally mandated. I am disappointed that Honda did not choose to keep the system a simple as possible. There is a method of using the existing ABS sensors for TPMS. That removes two expensive components used in the Honda system: the tire stem transmitters and the receivers. This crap of needing sensors in every wheel then having to return to the dealer to program the system to recognize the different sensors every time you change wheels is onerous. Now couple that with the fact that the batteries in the sensors have a 5 year life and it just starts to get hideous, not to mention that the damn system doesn't work very well. Honda, I believe you could have done better.
Granted there may be a whole host of problems associated with the use of ABS, but having a system that does not need to recognize specific wheel sensors would be better for those of us in the snow belt that have spare wheels.
tsmithvt
12-19-2007, 12:03 PM
One can hope that when it comes time to replace your TPMS wheel sensors (batteries), Honda or the after market will have come up with a better solution.:)
lhernandez70
01-24-2008, 11:27 AM
I Finally Got The Problem Resolved With The Tpms Sensor, The Dealer Said That The Reason Why The Light Kept Coming On Was Because They Were Only Resetting One Of The Sensors, They Were Told They Would Have To Reset All 4 Sensors:)
Badgerland
01-24-2008, 02:40 PM
Geez...that sounds like an easy fix...you think that they would have thought of that in the first place! :confused:
Let us know if the issue continues.
Nexus6
01-09-2009, 12:26 PM
My wifes '08 CRV was taken into the Santa Ana dealership 3 times for the TPMS light going off. The third time, they told us that we had a nail in one of the tires and that it would cost us $175 to replace it. This nail did not cause any leaks. I don't trust Santa Ana Honda, for all I know they could of put the nail in themselves so that they we wouldn't blame the TPMS problem on the system itself. Anyways, I'm very disappointed in Honda, especially Santa Ana Honda. I'm going to try another dealership.
ROMAN
01-09-2009, 03:34 PM
My wifes '08 CRV was taken into the Santa Ana dealership 3 times for the TPMS light going off. The third time, they told us that we had a nail in one of the tires and that it would cost us $175 to replace it. This nail did not cause any leaks. I don't trust Santa Ana Honda, for all I know they could of put the nail in themselves so that they we wouldn't blame the TPMS problem on the system itself. Anyways, I'm very disappointed in Honda, especially Santa Ana Honda. I'm going to try another dealership.
You should know, dealers really would like to make more
money like that simple problem. When you walk into
the dealer, I always think it would cost me an arm and
a leg, wouldn't you agree?
I would try the tire dealers like goodyear, goodrich
or firestone etc. for comparison and to see which one
gives out the beest opinion.
Good luck..............:)
stickerguynyc
01-09-2009, 04:44 PM
Usually the TPMS light come out in cold weather...Mine was one for 2 days too... in the morning come out and after 40 miles went away.. to solve the problem have to take all air out and fill the tire again.
davos
01-09-2009, 10:11 PM
Apparently there is a specific procedure for activation before delivery
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A06-067.PDF
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A07-052.PDF
Radar24
01-09-2009, 11:05 PM
Usually the TPMS light come out in cold weather...Mine was one for 2 days too... in the morning come out and after 40 miles went away.. to solve the problem have to take all air out and fill the tire again.
That is not quite true! If you take the air out and the problem is fixed by putting it back in then it is only fixed because the correct air pressure was set. Or if by a freak occurrence the sensor is dislodged and now communicates properly. I think that is at best unlikely although I have never seen one mounted in the tire. I say this just based on what I have read.
Forget about taking out the air. Even new tire pressure gauges are often inaccurate.I believe there is A TSB about a HONDA special tool that was supposed to be circulated to dealers so they can adjust their pressure gauges. I do not remember any more details.
Set the tire pressure accurately to 34 PSI with the tires cold! Normal pressure is 32 PSI. As the vehicle tires warm up the pressure goes up. As it cools over night, it usually goes to its lowest pressure. For every 10 degress F change the pressure changes about 1.5 PSI. Setting the tires to 34 PSI allows for an extra margin of 2 PSI for any errors in the sensors and the pressure gauge. Thus preventing the ‘Low Tire Pressure’ indicator light from coming on.
(Edit 10Dec @8:45 AM- change 10 PSI change to 10 Degress F change - thanks Carbuff2)
The TPMS is monitoring the pressure to check to see if the pressure goes below 24 PSI. The sensors do not communicate with the TPMS controller unless the vehicle is going above 28 MPH. So while going over 28 MPH if any tire is below 24 PSI the orange ‘Low Tire Pressure Light’ goes on. If the pressure increases above 28 PSI the orange ‘Low Tire Pressure Light’ goes off. If it does not get up to 28 PSI as the tire heats up, the orange ‘Low Tire Pressure’ Light will remain on.
So for starters with the tires cold, set the tire pressure to 32 PSI and drive the vehicle to see if the orange ‘Low Tire Pressure’ Light goes on while going over 28 MPH. It should not if your tire pressure gauge is accurate and the TPMS system is working OK. If the ‘Low Tire Pressure’ light is still going on try 34 PSI cold tire pressure. This will allow for some additional gauge error margin as it might not be accurate. If the light still comes on, bring it in for service. Honda should fix it under the warranty.
If a problem is detected by the TPMS system ONLY the orange TPMS light goes on regardless of the pressure in the tires.
If any of the tire sensor IDs fails to match the ID set in the TPMS controller while going over 28 MPH, then only the orange TPMS light goes on. It will remain on until the sensors communicate properly with the correct ID or the engine is shut down. Once the engine is restarted the cycle is started over again doing the Self-Test, checking sensor IDs, tire pressure greater than 24 PSI and the TPMS controller itself.
I read at one point that if the ignition switch is moved from positions I (ACCESORY) to II (ON) to III (START) too fast, the Self-Test performed during position II can be interrupted. Various problems have been attributed to improperly starting the vehicle. I cannot say one way or the other as I have never seen this happen.
If the wheels or sensors are not an OEM Honda part, then the system may not work properly. More than likely the sensor ID or communication will not properly be interpreted by the Controller and the TPMS indicator light will light up. Error codes are set whenever an error is detected and can be read by your dealer. These error codes can be used to help troubleshoot the TPMS system.
Diagnosis of the TPMS with low tire pressure will not be covered under warranty! Check the tire pressure before bringing in your CR-V for TPMS service. It could cost you if you do not!
-RG
Carbuff2
01-10-2009, 05:41 AM
Radar, good summary post.
One clarification, you said:
For every 10 PSI change the pressure changes about 1.5 PSI. I KNOW you meant that "For every 10 DEGREE F. change the pressure changes about 1.5 PSI."
For that reason, I have always "overinflated" my tires by a pound or two, especially during times of the year when the temperature is dropping (like the Fall or early Winter). That way the pressure is OK even when the car is parked outside all night.
:cool:
Black Pearl
01-10-2009, 12:31 PM
The only thing that I can add from personal experience is don't get into a hurry to run off to the dealer if you have problems. Inflate the tires as noted above and give it a couple of days and at least 100 miles. I hope it is obvious that I am not advocating driving around with a leak in your tire. I mean if the tires are OK and the problem is the TPMS system, give it chance to reset it self.
When I remove my summer wheels with the sensors, and install my winter wheels with out sensors, it takes some time before the light goes on. My memory is about 10 to 15 miles.
In the summer when I put the wheels with the sensors back on (only have done it once), it took three days and about 100 miles before the light went out. Had I flew off to the dealer in panic, they would have kindly reset the system for me and charged me for a service visit and counseled me on my lack of wisdom for not having spare OEM wheels with sensors and have them re-id the system for 50 to 100 bucks twice a year.
As Radar noted, Honda is fussy about covering TPMS problems on warranty. They will if there is a genuine problem, but low tires or switching wheels are not considered a warranty problem and you may get whacked for a service visit. Becareful and don't get into a hurry. There is nothing unsafe about driving the car with the TPMS lights on if you know the tires are properly inflated, with the exception of the fact that if you do develop a leak while driving, you are not going to benefit from the TPMS system giving you a warning.
Carbuff2
01-10-2009, 12:56 PM
There is nothing unsafe about driving the car with the TPMS lights on if you know the tires are properly inflated, .
In some circumstances, a TPMS light inhibits the stability control (VSA) from operating, doesn't it?
Not having the TPMS system myself, I don't know if just a low-air warning (the ! in the tire symbol) or the "TPMS" system light or either does this.
We need clarification....
Black Pearl
01-10-2009, 01:04 PM
In some circumstances, a TPMS light inhibits the stability control (VSA) from operating, doesn't it?
Not having the TPMS system myself, I don't know if just a low-air warning (the ! in the tire symbol) or the "TPMS" system light or either does this.
We need clarification....
You can't turn the VSA off (if you get stuck or want to do donuts) otherwise the VSA operates normally.
Radar24
01-10-2009, 02:09 PM
VSA
LIGHT
STATE = FUNCTION
OFF = Monitoring Sensors but NOT Actively Correcting (no positive indication)
ON Constantly = VSA is OFF using the VSA OFF Switch – LIT ON as a Reminder
Blinking On = Actively Correcting Yaw by Easing Throttle & Applying the Brakes as Required to One or More Wheels
-RG
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