CTDI oil usage

[Jimbo_EX]

Just wondering how others are finding oil consumption on the 2.2 CTDI. Before buying the car I read that the oil consumption was high. After owning 2 Hondas I wasnt suprised. Ive just needed to put a litre in after 5.5k miles, which has topped it up from just above minimum.
How does this compare with anyone elses experience?

[Hughesy]

My 2.2 CTDI has about 3,000 miles and oil still sitting on the top level.

Previously I had a 2.2 CTDI Accord. It used about a litre of oil in 15k miles.

I don't think the Honda engine is that different from other modern turbo diesels.
It is a problem that there is no oil level gauge, so you have to check the dip stick regularly.

[jamesb101]

I got my CRV with 5K on the clock & just got to 11300miles & had to put in anout 300ML oil.
On the subject of oil i've found Lucas fully synthetic @£30.00 / 5L what's anyone else using ?

[Jimbo_EX]

I got my CRV with 5K on the clock & just got to 11300miles & had to put in anout 300ML oil.
On the subject of oil i've found Lucas fully synthetic @£30.00 / 5L what's anyone else using ?

I put in Castol 0w 30 fully synthetic. I think the Honda recommends castrol sticker must have worked on my subconcious;)

[Red916]

Not quite an answer, but I do have the same engine in my 8th gen Civic, and the same question has been asked quite a few times about that one :)

Mine needed a gulg (good technical term) at about 10K miles, and hasn't used hardly a drop since.

Now on 35K miles, and level is half way between min and max, so it'll get replaced again at the next service in a few weeks :)

The vast majority of (on-line) Civic owners report similar, although one or two have experienced worse oil usage, but they are in the tiny minority :)


PS - Civic is going back to lease co in a few months, and CRV is currently top of the replacement list :)
(yes, 2.2 again :wink: )

[Jimbo_EX]

Cheers.
You may get a CRV with the new I-DTEC engine by then?...

[Red916]

I thought they were only putting the i-dtec in the Accord to begin with?

Though to be honest, I hadn't been keeping track of what was happeneing with the CRV until this week...

The i-dtec oringinally sounded fantastic - 180bhp was being banded about - but the one slated for the Accord is going to be 'only' about 150 now apparently.

With the current 2.2, the tuners took about a year to get on board with it, and are now safely (or safe so far - no news of knackered clutches to date) getting 192bhp from it :D

But if it takes them another year / 18 months to get to grips with the i-dtec, it'll be almost time for me to give it back again LOL

[Red916]

Sorry, going a bit off topic now :o

We've just driven Honda's new iDTEC diesel engine installed in the current Accord. This will go on sale as the range-topping diesel unit in the all-new Accord due next summer.

It's still a 2.2-litre, but heavily modified, with improved combustion and a particulate filter. And this time round there will be two states of tune: the lower-powered one promises around 155bhp and will also have the option of an auto 'box for the first time. The meatier engine is likely to be a manual-only at launch, and you'll get 180bhp to play with.

Autocar - Driven: 2008 Accord iDTEC (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=228799) for full story

so it looks like my memory failed again - 180bhp is still apparently planned (if you believe AutoCar anyway)

Although the current Accord brochure is still only showing the 140, so not sure when the i-dtec will land...

[Jimbo_EX]

Honda (UK) New Accord (http://www.honda.co.uk/newaccord/)

The specifications section shows the accord available with the i-DTEC from launch. The i-CTDI engine was launched with the current Accord, then filtered into the Civic/CRV ranges, so it may well be 09 before the either one appears in the CRV.

[Red916]

good spot - I hadn't looked at the micro site! :o

looks like only 150PS at launch though :(

[stan]

I am hoping that a warning light comes on when I need to add oil - I wasnt planning on adding any unless it told me!!!!

also does anyone know if you get a service light on the car or do you have to remember the intervals?

[Jimbo_EX]

You have to remember. Although as you get near 12 months the dealership send you a letter.
There is an oil warning light, but as Honda engines tend to drink oil (relative to other makes) Id check it every few weeks just to be on the safe side. My oil dropped to just above the minimum mark and i didnt get a light..I think its best to consider the light as a last resort safety net..

[Hughesy]

The oil light is low pressure, not low level. If the oil light comes on you need to pretty much pull over.
Unfortunately the only way to check the oil level is with the dip stick.

[stan]

I dont think I will get to 12 months - I am on almost 6500 miles and I got the car on 8th February!

I better check the oil sometime then!

[Hughesy]

I dont think I will get to 12 months - I am on almost 6500 miles and I got the car on 8th February!

I better check the oil sometime then!


Isn't there a sticker that says to check the oil level each time you fill up with fuel?
On my old Accord with the same engine, there were two stickers (windscreen and inside the door) that said to check the oil level daily when cold. They must have been having a laugh, I was glad to see the CR-V sticker was more sensible.

[Jimbo_EX]

There were some engine failures on the accord because the engines were running dry of oil within a few thousand miles. The CRV does have the stickers - I think they recommend checking oil when refuelling, as did the handbooks for my Civic Type R and petrol Accord.

[Hughesy]

I just bought some Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W-30 fully synthetic oil at Halfords: £14.99 for one litre.
That's pretty expensive! But there are few oils on the market that meet the requirements.
I think the Honda dealers have similar Castrol oil without the name, its probably the same stuff.

[stan]

There were some engine failures on the accord because the engines were running dry of oil within a few thousand miles. The CRV does have the stickers - I think they recommend checking oil when refuelling, as did the handbooks for my Civic Type R and petrol Accord.

I checked mine and it has a sticker - it recommends that you check everytime you fill up with fuel - that just aint practical - I am at the petrol station nearly every other day!

almost 8500 miles on the car now - did check the oil last weekend and its at the full mark (phew!)

[Jimbo_EX]

I just bought some Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W-30 fully synthetic oil at Halfords: £14.99 for one litre.
That's pretty expensive! But there are few oils on the market that meet the requirements.
I think the Honda dealers have similar Castrol oil without the name, its probably the same stuff.

Thats the oil ive topped up with. Since then my average mpg has risen from 35 to 37+ with no difference in fuel, driving style, routes etc.

[DaveC]

I just bought some Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W-30 fully synthetic oil at Halfords: £14.99 for one litre.
That's pretty expensive! ...

I bought some of that last week too. £43.99 for four litres = £10.99/litre !
That's quite a shock when I was getting oil for the RX8 in bulk @ £3.50/litre. Mind you, I suspect it will last longer in the V :)

[Hughesy]

Liquid gold.

[davidamacphee]

I've had the low oil light (Orange not red) come on twice...previously had a highly tuned CTR that reved to 9200rpm. It used less oil than my CRV.

And before anyone says I should check with the dip stick, I do. But when storming through Europe and near the top end for a hour after hour it burns oil quicker than I'd have thought possible.

[Jimbo_EX]

whats youe mileage. Mine wnt from full to empty by 4.5 k miles on the clock, but from 4.5 to 11k miles never used a drop

[davidamacphee]

I'm now at 22k...I had the CRv for a rear diff problem, mentioned that in addition, I'm surprised that it's drinking over a litre ever 5k. I was told this is an acceptable consumption amount.

Acceptable to them maybe, but not me.

[Davy]

My 55 plate Accord ictdi was serviced 3 times over 2 years of ownership with only 15000 miles done and between services I put a total of 1 litre of oil in myself to keep it topped up. I doubt I really needed to put any in as I could have left it to go nearer the min mark between services.

I guess any diesel vehicle owner knows the term 'oil burner' and it's just good sense to check the oil regularly especially if your a high milage driver.
I don't think Hondas are much different to any other make when it comes to oil consumption.

I've recently bought a 06 CR-V ictdi and while on holiday I did just under 1000 miles and after checking the oil it needed a gulg (good technical term) '®™Red916'

A friend of mine who drives a Volkswagon Caddy for his buisiness says he has to top it up with oil once a month.