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Carvingbarn
07-23-2008, 09:43 AM
We all have to get behind some effort to relive our dependence on others for our energy needs.
There have been no realistic leaders in this effort to date. No plan to build on. We have just heard a lot of talk. Here is a man with a plan. It has its faults as most new any plan do. It is realistic and a start us in the right direction. If we wait for our so called leaders to do some thing it will be too late. We as a nation need to get behind some realistic and comprehensive plan of action. I have not heard anyone with a better plan.
PickensPlan (http://www.pickensplan.com/)
Black Pearl
07-23-2008, 09:56 AM
My Internet connection crashed when I opened the site. I assume this is T. Boone Pickens we are referring to. I hope there is more substance to this plan than his last one. A lot people lost their jobs so T. Boone could load his pockets. He was already rich beyond the wildest imagination. I'll agree we need energy plan, but to me T. Boone is a snake in the grass and can't be trusted.
tsmithvt
07-23-2008, 11:51 AM
I too am very suspicious of Mr. Pickens and his plan. Does he truly have the best interest of the United States in mind or is he advancing his own investment plan for the future? I suspect he is trying to get public support for government subsidies to enhance his own investments.
T. Boone Pickens loves his cash. He is a greedy individual; one not to be trusted. Don't let him fool you and think he is being green for the sake of the environment; that is not of his concern; his "green" interests lie in his portfolios. His wind farm is just an attempt to create a revenue stream for otherwise worthless land. This is one man I wouldn't buy a car from; not even a CR-V!
I just noticed this thread. I agree with everyone who posted. We do need a new comprehensive energy policy and T. Boone Pickens is a snake in the grass.
In the 70s many small and medium sized oil companies were targets of corporate raiders. The concept was to take over an oil company to gain rights to it's oil reserves, then fire everyone and sell the reserves for huge profits. It is my understanding that Pickens was one of the most ruthless of these raiders.
In recent years he has given away many hundreds of millions of dollars and some of that has gone for research into alternative energy sources. Still you can't help but wonder what he is up to.
JPO
davos
08-03-2008, 04:38 PM
I have heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk interesting proposition:
According to him a lot of electricity in US is generated using natural gas - switch electricity generation to atomic energy and use NG to burn in cars instead of gasoline.
I personally do not feel to comfortable with nuclear plants and waste, but it would achieve two things - supply us with cheap electrical power in abundance and finish our dependency on foreign oil (Bob claims that we have enough gas to serve as fuel for motor vehicles).
That would also buy us time to refine electric cars and develop new energy sources and, I think, it would cut green house gas emission - NG instead of being burn for electricity would be burn instead of gas (so say it would halve it) and I believe it burns "cleaner" than gasoline.
There are plenty of energy sources in this world for ions to come. It is all a matter of cost; as the unit energy costs go up more sources make economical sense. Nuclear is back in the picture and there is even talk of a gas line from Alaska, all looks good. Being green is not a matter of carbon footprint but a matter of economics but its good when they are in sync.
tsmithvt
08-03-2008, 05:45 PM
There are plenty of energy sources in this world for ions to come. It is all a matter of cost; as the unit energy costs go up more sources make economical sense. Nuclear is back in the picture and there is even talk of a gas line from Alaska, all looks good. Being green is not a matter of carbon footprint but a matter of economics but its good when they are in sync.
Well said. :cool:
TGuy, I may misunderstand you but it sounds like you are depending on market forces to deliver the next great source of energy. This is not a given. Market forces are like the laws of physics. There is no guarantee that we will be happy with the results they produce.
In the short run I’m not too worried about gas pipelines or even nuclear energy. But we need a national energy policy that will get us switched over to renewable sources of energy, and soon.
Market forces could certainly help us implement a sensible energy policy but they should not define it.
JPO
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