shoot off of used moderator poll. (T-MAC AND MOD PLEASE REVIEW)

[GTCB-chris]

if "the bosses" do decide to add user admins here is a poll.
***note this is just for discussion and has no effect directly on the decisions of moderators and administrators that are already in place.

question one: what privileges do you think user moderators or administrators should have.

question two: what should influence the moderators / administrators to add users as moderators / administrators

questions three: lets "elect some users" and in my opinion you can elect your self, but must back up why. same goes for why you elected another users.



+a note to T-mac and other mods/admins from me, PM me if im taking this user moderator / administrator idea too far, i do not know your opinions on this subject, that's the reason for this post. -Chris

[GTCB-chris]

i believe user admins/moderators should be able to ban, delete, and suspend users for actions going against CRVOC guidelines, for spamming, or for just being a nuisance.

they should be able to create "stickys", move, edit,close, lock, and delete threads/posts.

they should be able to change peoples status or create a more specific statuses, im talking about the "junior member" "member" "senior member" headlines, i think their should be a more classifications, not to label users, but more or less too show how beneficial or creditable they are. or even creat a reputation system like the superhonda fourm uses.

but i think they should not be allowed to change site layout or anything serious like that, they should leave that to site owners.


what i think should influence site owner/ admins/ moderators on the choosing process is number of posts, site involvment, and maturity. but lets face it everyone has to have fun, such as the alien blue light tin foil hat thread.


im going to nominate myself, becuase i was pretty much the one who started this discussion. i have been here for long enough i have created my own "fourm personality" and a reputation. i stay within the lines of the rules, i am mature but also funny and forgiving. Being young, at 19, i know enough about humor that i know what funny and what wrong or demeaning. i have ran and moderated other fourms, non of which are around anymore (due to a friends, dad's failed domain hosting service..hah) i have owned a crv from 4 years, i have gone to mechanical schools so i have alot of info to provide. im also going to school for criminal justice and technologies and returning to the automoive school next week.

i also want to nominate black pearl, he has a good sence of humor, he is one of our older members, and older is not a bad thing at all, he is experienced at life in general.

and i will also like to nominate serj22 becuase he is a law enforcment officer, he is skilled at the art of "crving" ( a word play implying he knows his way around a crv) also he comes off to me as wise, just like black pearl.


please discuss and elborate. i would love to hear from the site owners and admins over PM or Email. thank you - Chris

[Serj22]

I agree with that idea of changing people's status to label different people as say "Gen 1 Guru" or "Gen1 Engine Maintenance Guru" or "electrical tech" or "ask me about stereos" sort of thing. OR "tach boy" Just kidding on that one. I don't think he's been on in a while, but definitly a good example of a nuisence. Banning accounts for certain periods of time is a good way to keep the hate-trash-arguing down. Just put a cap on the argument and ban them for 24 hours so they can cool off.

[electric V]

This seems to be a great idea. I would love to lock the spammers that are always selling phones and computers and crappy stuff (not actual users like Serj and other people that are trying to sell car things)

Although there would have to be a strict limit on how many moderators and administrators that get added so power is not abused. We don't want someone to start locking people out because they get in a cyber fight. And it should be someone who is on regularly.

What if we started a sister site?

I would nominate
Serj
GTCB-Chris
Radar 24
And my self (Of Course)

So Chris are you thinking about going into law enforcement after school. I am going into an acadamy afer I finish college.

[GTCB-chris]

i forgot about you for a second eletric V lol, i think you would make good moderator too, a sister site would be okay, but i mean id rather see crvoc grow, id like to smash all the competition. and as far as banning people for personal reasons, that would be out of the question, if a mod were to over use their power, they them selves would be banned.

[GTCB-chris]

and yeah, im going to college for criminal justice so for a while i want to be in uniform patrol, then maybe switch to a different sub agencies, like my counties OCB agencies, they are like the DEA

[Serj22]

Yeah, no over-powered mods. The only issue is this, compared to SHO, and hondasuv.com is that those two sites have some regular mods on daily, and it's pretty closely watched. There are a few members in hondasuv.com who do a pretty good job cleaning house, so to speak, and have banning privilidges. Dunny thing is the CRV is the only thing talked about on hondasuv, but the members who were super helpful have all but left and have not signed in forever. Sort of like "Illegal" here, he has not been on in forever, and if he has, I haven't seen it. HE knew some electronics, and had some cool ideas, like hood dampers. Either way, stuff on here needs to be watched, and there's tons of things that need to be stickied. The site layout is great, but one change i would like is to have every DIY with in-depth pictures stickied. I keep getting people PMing me where i got my black grille, and I keep telling em, I made it and then have to hunt through the DIY section to find it, stuff like that, and Speaker installs and intake swaps should be sticied to make the information more readily available. There's obviously a lot of stickies of stuff already, but I suggest maybe a seperate forum section that is only DIY's, and perhaps remake the threads and then have the mods lock them after the actual DIY, and then make a discussion thread, so one does not have to search through 6 pages of info to find the actual DIY, and then each one can have a discussion so it would look like:

2004 HID Upgrade In-Depth DIY
Discussion: 2004...
How to install Westin bar 1999
Discussion: Westin bar
How to Change rear Diff Fluid
Discussion: Rear diff

Something along those lines, I don't know, It's just an idea I thought I'd mention and it would make a lot of info 3-second accessible, and if there were more mods, they could re-locate threads people post to somewhere else to keep the forums more organized and keep the question startup posts to a minimum by keeping info easily findable, so there are fewer startup threads with 2 replies that was already answered 70 threads ago, and someone just posts a link to the old thread, and then that particular thread with the question becomes useless, and puts one more link in the way of scrolling down to find the info you need.

I don't know, just my thoughts.

[electric V]

i a sister site would be okay, but i mean id rather see crvoc grow, id like to smash all the competition. and as far as banning people for personal reasons, that would be out of the question, if a mod were to over use their power, they them selves would be banned.

Good points but I think that there should be some rules in place to protect people from being baned for no reason. I was a little unclear:p And there are a little too many spammers there should be a way to get rid of them.

and yeah, im going to college for criminal justice so for a while i want to be in uniform patrol, then maybe switch to a different sub agencies, like my counties OCB agencies, they are like the DEA

That sound cool last year in high school I took a criminal justice class and the teacher was an undercover cop. And for a few years now I decided to go to college for business management and beg a B.A. or a B.S. But I havent really made up my mind yet as to where I would want to go, maybe SWAT, CHP or local patrol.

[electric V]

Your right Serj about people sending PMs and E mails. But I always try to send the web adress in with my posts for the people to look. And the search button is pretty useful.

[Serj22]

. And the search button is pretty useful.

What website are you on? The search button on this site sucks. And it never shows you anything you want...

[GTCB-chris]

search buttons on all forums pretty much don't work

[electric V]

If you ask for a Pizza it comes through the screen.

I have used it before the site was updated and it worked great. But know I do find it a little lacking.

I would also nominate Black Peral and Sleeksilver

[GTCB-chris]

im waiting for T-mac or somebody to get back at me.

[lizzurd]

Guys i have brought this to the attention of upper management. We should have some news on what is going to happen shortly.

[GTCB-chris]

thank you buddy!

[Serj22]

Guys i have brought this to the attention of upper management. We should have some news on what is going to happen shortly.

Upper management! They're going to want us to go ahead and come in on Saturday... and Sunday too!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/f14billy/officespace_lumbergh.jpg
Jk. Good, I'll be waiting to hear the results... if any.

[GTCB-chris]

i hope we get good feedback from the site owners.

[4hondaowner]

Yeah, no over-powered mods. The only issue is this, compared to SHO, and Hondasuv.com is that those two sites have some regular mods on daily, and it's pretty closely watched. There are a few members in Hondasuv.com who do a pretty good job cleaning house, so to speak, and have banning privileges. Funny thing is the CR-V is the only thing talked about on Hondasuv, but the members who were super helpful have all but left and have not signed in forever.

We try to stay on top of things over at Honda.SUV.

I clean house each and every day to keep the spammers and other stuff out of the site.

You are about 90% correct regarding your thoughts about the CR-V talk over at HondaSUV. That's probably because the top ten posters all drive either a first or second generation CR-V. There are times when I wish we reached out better to the Element and Pilot owners.

Kevin
Honda.SUV Administrator
Duluth, Georgia

:rolleyes:

[T Mac]

Guys, I'm all for adding another 1-2 moderators. I'll add them this week.

(Sorry it took me a while to respond. I've been remodeling my basement, working overtime at work and just returned from a trip.)

It doesn't really matter what forum you are on, spam will always occur to some degree. If we get spam on here, it's usually cleaned up within a few hours unless one of us is not around to actually clean it up. There are 3 or 4 of us regularly checking, but I know that my schedule has been much busier lately. That's why I think we will go ahead and bump up our moderator count shortly.

As for tasks - it's a volunteer position. Moderators do basically what has already been discussed here. We even have a moderator-only category on the forum where we can discuss members or issues that come up so that we can sometimes make a decision as a group rather than one member getting overly active with the ban stick or something.

I appreciate all of the feedback and I am glad that so many of you want to see this site/club/forum continue to grow. Over the past six years, I have built a relationship with Honda and they (R&D, marketing, etc.) do read this forum as well as the other forums I started. And in return, sometimes I get some info or help that also benefits the forum in some way.

Thanks to everyone for supporting the CR-VOC! Please help us in our efforts to continue growing by telling others about us.

[electric V]

Cool,

good luck with the basement. Me and my dad just finished our bathrooms. It's always a ton of work but it is worth every penny in the end.

[GTCB-chris]

thanks t-mac!

[Serj22]

Most excellent.

[illegal]

I have been a super mod/Moderator on a half a dozen forums or more I think, Cant remember. You do have to live on the site to be effective.

[lizzurd]

You do have to live on the site to be effective.

Not nessessarily. Having members report spam and any problem posts that may pop up helps. Also having active members that jump in and help answer questions is a big help to.

[illegal]

I was also on much higher traffic sites. Speaking from experience.

[GTCB-chris]

i agree with illegal, it takes alot on big sites like superhonda, this forum is less traffic and a lot calmer

[illegal]

Thats why we love it!

[electric V]

Seriously some bigger forums are a pain to find things *cough* Chevy truck Forums *cough*

[GTCB-chris]

thats why love this site, its easy to find what you want and its easy to get good answers, thats why i left superhonda

[Serj22]

thats why i left superhonda

Superhonda's traffic is going down like nobody's business. Also, anytime i ask for something I get "DO A HEAD SWAP! LICK MY BUTT" or something like that. :D It's still fun to troll around there, don't expect any useful answers though.

[GTCB-chris]

i just left there because of that, its fun, till you get tired of porn

[Radar24]

Is it my imagination or has the cross section of members dropped off lately? Maybe not. It might just be that the topics I am reading do not have as much of a wide appeal as the ones I was reading before. Maybe it is all due to spring. There seems to be only about a hand full of contributors to the topic that is all. With lots of hijacking. Some of it I will admit to be guilty off.

If it has dropped off then it might be useful to know why.

Yeah like this is old hat or Boring! :) Or the way the writers comes across!

On the latter; Sorry but I have a low tolerance for opinions aired as expert that are baseless, not based on sound principles or just do not make sense. Like opinions based on urban legends and are not based on scientific principles and methods. Instead they are based on a lot of hocus pocus "I never had a problem before" so therefore it must be true! Or the manufacturer says so so it must be true!

While I will be the first to admit I do not understand everything, there are principles and science behind everything. One needs to be open minded so as to not squelch progress. By the same token opinions aired should have a rationale behind them. A rational that holds water so to speak. Not responding to such wild claims might encourage others to do likewise with potentially disastrous results.

-Rg

[GTCB-chris]

i have noticed the drop off in members, and topic contributors i cannot see why....

[Serj22]

We'll see. I've noticed an increase in questions... but not a lot of the members go past 1 post and don't even chekc back for answers.

[GTCB-chris]

good point, they post their question. wait for an answer, and then never return

[Serj22]

I don't think they even wait for the answer - it's like:

"My car exploded and turned into cake mix. Does anyone know why?"

Then 1,000 people reply and the OP never checks.

[GTCB-chris]

yeah. when its really slow we tend to hijack, they will ask why the sky is blue and next thing they now " i like my eggs hard boiled because i love the squish them between my fingers". or they get the "alien blue light" answer

[Serj22]

yeah. when its really slow we tend to hijack, they will ask why the sky is blue and next thing they now " i like my eggs hard boiled because i love the squish them between my fingers". or they get the "alien blue light" answer

And that is why this Forum trucks along progressively unlike all the others

[GTCB-chris]

i mean, if we didn't have fun what else would we do, eat carnuba wax? i like how the forum is going, i just wish we had more members

[Serj22]

i mean, if we didn't have fun what else would we do, eat carnuba wax? i like how the forum is going, i just wish we had more members

First tailoring as a moderator... hehe. Language Chris... language.:D I just wanted to see what the edit tool looked like, I won't mod you anymore.:D

[GTCB-chris]

haha i was gonna do the same just for fun, like my super awesome amazing moderator crvoc banner sig? lol got bored

[electric V]

I don't think they even wait for the answer - it's like:
"My car exploded and turned into cake mix. Does anyone know why?"

When life hand you lemons:D

Actually I joined a Chevvy Truck Forum. And I am pretty unimpressed. out of 24,000 plus members only 3 replied and two of them had to argue weather wich one was right. I have only loged on there twice in the 4 weeks that I have been a member and still have not gotten a straight answer. Safe to say I will probably just figure out the problem myself. Come to think of it I told my parent I was going to check the cabin air filter in it for them last week.

[Radar24]

Maybe it is because there is too much kidding around and not enough technical stuff. I too am responsible for some off it.

When you have ten post in a row of basically three or four contributors working on a "I like my instrument lights blue. So the Aliens stay away"
Well with that kind of content the serious members that want more technical content and realism drift off to another site.

And Serj, that was just a analogous topic I made up. So there will be no references. :)

Think about that. When was the last time BP, Lizzurd, Tmac, TCTurner, Bagerland, CarBuff or Some Mook and the other technically and info oriented members contributed to these threads? I hardly ever see them contribute their two cents worth.

Sorry guys, the problem might be global appeal! A hand full of members might be interested and having a blast but the rest cannot contribute to what seems like a private conversation or click?

I warned you before. I call them as I see them. :D
-Rg

[illegal]

It seems like any thread that has oposition, which is certain members in particular, the thread also dies. The missinformation posted by some members may be an issue. Also forums have lulls and build back up again depending onthe time of year.

[lizzurd]

Think about that. When was the last time BP, Lizzurd, Tmac, TCTurner, Bagerland, CarBuff or Some Mook and the other technically and info oriented members contributed to these threads? I hardly ever see them contribute their two cents worth.


-Rg

I can only speak for myself here. Last september i took over running the parts department at a busy Honda dealer here in Toronto. If and when i do get on here during the day it is while i am on the phone or having my lunch. True i do spend more time on the EOC where i am a moderator as well. I would love to be able to have the time to scour all the forums and give the detailed info that is often requested but it is not possible for me lately.

[GTCB-chris]

i give technical answers a lot, but i too are responsible for some of the playing around.

[tcturner]

Maybe it is because there is too much kidding around and not enough technical stuff. I too am responsible for some off it.

When you have ten post in a row of basically three or four contributors working on a "I like my instrument lights blue. So the Aliens stay away"
Well with that kind of content the serious members that want more technical content and realism drift off to another site.

And Serj, that was just a analogous topic I made up. So there will be no references. :)

Think about that. When was the last time BP, Lizzurd, Tmac, TCTurner, Bagerland, CarBuff or Some Mook and the other technically and info oriented members contributed to these threads? I hardly ever see them contribute their two cents worth.

Sorry guys, the problem might be global appeal!] A hand full of members might be interested and having a blast but the rest cannot contribute to what seems like a private conversation [/B]or click?

I warned you before. I call them as I see them. :D
-Rg
Cant speak for the others but I am still here Radar just staying in the back ground waiting for the dust to settle or maybe it is time to move on who knows.I never was fond of change.
Jim :(

[GTCB-chris]

i have no intentions of leaving, even if its just me and dave left, i am determined to keep crv|oc going, and growing.

[Radar24]

For sure the time of the year might be the predominant factor. I realize that and people get busy too. With spring coming most every where except maybe in the Tundra of Ajax, Ontario (sorry I could not pass it up :)). Youse guys in the Carolinas and sunny southern California have been enjoying spring for over a month now. Maybe two.

The other issue is when I scan the new post I do not see too many I can contribute too. No point in jumping in if you contribution is not substantial and based on concrete info. It seem that most of IMO postings never get a response from other than an opposing and potentially feud straiting point of view. I am really trying to stop that. :o

The final issue might be that I have never hung around in a forum this long.

There that would be my IMO. :)

But we really need to cut down on the personal kidding around. If we don't the number of members might drop off as will the standing. Possibly even permanently. Not a lot off forums have the professional members in the industry and knowledge base with well laid out photo essays of how to do it jobs. That is the type of posting I think we need to encourage. Don't you think? That is what attracted me anyhow to this forum.

In any event nature will take its course. Trying to stop the river from doing so is futile. There, I will not repeat it again. Anymore. No way. No how. Not again. Ever. Not until the cows come home...till the hens crow... :)

-Rg

[lizzurd]

But we really need to cut down on the personal kidding around.

-Rg


I think one of the reasons the EOC is so successful is due to the fact that we can raz each other.

Then again the EOC is a different animal. The E is a NA market based vehicle with a hand full of owners in other parts of the world. The fact that the CRV is marketed worldwide may be one of the reasons this site is not busier than it is. A cultural difference as it were.


We have regional meets. Alot of owners have become close friends. I knpw i still have a close group of friends that started out as a few people getting together in a park once a year.

[GTCB-chris]

we should plan a north American meet, somewhere in between so the majority of the members could meet up, hard to do, but given time i see it happening

[Radar24]

I do not disagree Lizzurd. Some razzing is OK. It livens up what may otherwise be a boring topic. But a dozen post with one liners of continued razzing and bantering??? Sometimes I cannot even tell what the topic is about.

OOPS! I said never again :o

-Rg

[electric V]

I think one of the reasons the EOC is so successful is due to the fact that we can raz each other.

Then again the EOC is a different animal. The E is a NA market based vehicle with a hand full of owners in other parts of the world. The fact that the CRV is marketed worldwide may be one of the reasons this site is not busier than it is. A cultural difference as it were.

I forgot I joined the EOC. I havent been on there in a while. I thought that the E was sold in europe as well but I really don't know much about the vehicle. The 09's look fantastic but it is a shame they did away with the sun roof and the manual transmissions in the lower models:(

Kidding around is good I think. But I bet that many people just join forums for a quick answer and not for fun. I just have too much time to waste:D

[tcturner]

i have no intentions of leaving, even if its just me and dave left, i am determined to keep crv|oc going, and growing.
I hope this was not directed at me.I never suggested that you leave or that their was a problem involving you if that is how it appeared then I apologize.But if you are going to be a mod you have to lighten up .I said I might move on (not you or anyone else),I said I dont like change that is my problem not yours.Once again I apologize but dont take an old mans rant as a personal attack.:confused:

[GTCB-chris]

hahah no, i didnt take it personally, i was just saying im not going anywhere lol. misunderstanding.

[illegal]

I am here, and that truely is all that matters.

I am trying to get the Mega Meet going again, and will post up the progress. If I am going to Md to judge a show, I will let you all know, so maybe we can meet up at the show, if i'm going on vacation in NC I will let you all know to meet up with those locals as well.

The forum is ok, it has a little less trafic, but that would mean that we all need to start being more on purpose with starting new threads, and lots of pics :)

[spdrcr5]

I forgot I joined the EOC. I havent been on there in a while. I thought that the E was sold in europe as well but I really don't know much about the vehicle. The 09's look fantastic but it is a shame they did away with the sun roof and the manual transmissions in the lower models:(

The Element was only sold in 3 markets. US, Canada and Japan. It was only sold in Japan from 2003-2006 (maybe 2007?) People have been importing them into some European countries from either the US or Canada and into Australia via Japan.

I actually saw an Element in Antigua when I was down there 2 weeks ago! Surprised the hell out of me. lol Have also seen them in Cancun and other parts of Mexico.

[Radar24]

I was surprised. Gracias. It seems to me there should be a few more Gold members. I do not know what criteria you are using but a saw a few other senior members that probably should be gold too. You know who they are. If it is to be applied it should be applied equally.

-Rg

[tcturner]

It has to do with the number of posts.I am a senior off and on the board.O well.:(

[Serj22]

Ranking is based on amounts of posts, that's all. Just give it a little more spice.:)

[electric V]

The Element was only sold in 3 markets. US, Canada and Japan. It was only sold in Japan from 2003-2006 (maybe 2007?) People have been importing them into some European countries from either the US or Canada and into Australia via Japan.

I actually saw an Element in Antigua when I was down there 2 weeks ago! Surprised the hell out of me. lol Have also seen them in Cancun and other parts of Mexico.

Thats so wierd I thought I read that there was an Euro element with a bench in the back for 3 people. It must have been the JDM model.:D It still is a cool little truck, But I like my V alot more.

[Radar24]

I thought I read that you guys were going to modify the rating criteria. I had never seen the Gold member so I thought you had done so as one of your new official duties.

No biggie. As long as I do not get paid less I am not big on titles. :D

-Rg

[Serj22]

I thought I read that you guys were going to modify the rating criteria. I had never seen the Gold member so I thought you had done so as one of your new official duties.

No biggie. As long as I do not get paid less I am not big on titles. :D

-Rg

Well, actually, we had to cut your salary in half... due to money crunchiny, but the good news is we were paying you nothing, so you're only down to 1/2 of nothing, so no loss.:)

[spdrcr5]

I posted this under the Admin Announcements but here is the breakdown to reach each milestone.

crv|oc Rank: Member 0-24
crv|oc Rank: Freshman 25-74
crv|oc Rank: Sophomore 75-124
crv|oc Rank: Junior 125-199
crv|oc Rank: Senior 200-499
crv|oc Rank: Silver 500-999
crv|oc Rank: Gold 1,000-2,499
crv|oc Rank: Platinum 2,500-4,999
crv|oc Rank: Diamond 5,000-9,999
crv|oc Rank: Sapphire 10,000-19,999
crv|oc Rank: Top Contributor 20,000+

This can be changed/modified quite easily if need be. Just something we decided to do on the site. We did this on the EOC about 2 yrs ago and thought it was time to do it over here. Still not done on the ROC as of yet though. lol

[Radar24]

:eek: Well then you guys and gals are in for a treat as I am shooting fir platinum! :D

-Rg

[GTCB-chris]

yepp, everybody liking the changes?

[Serj22]

That's the idea Radar!

[denzCRV]

I never knew about this topic till today lol. I would try and elect myself as moderator, but it's too much work for me :p Already moderating another forum and I can't keep up with them during my busy schedule lol