body repair and painting my first gen

GTCB-chris
05-10-2009, 04:43 PM
so im going to be filling my dents, and repainting my V, the question is what do yall think i should do, im trying to fill big and small dents and dings, and i think im going to paint my V black, just because its cheap and i do not want to pay to have it painted yet, and i cannot afford paint guns and such.


okay here is the real questions

1. what body filler should i use ( im thinking bondo )
2. what tools do i need
3. what materials do i need ( as in sand paper, paint scrapers, paint remover...etc.... )
4. what brand paint should i get, how much, and best method ( spray paint, liquid paint...etc...)
5. tips and tricks
6. how long do you think it will take
7.do some of the body panels on the first gen unbolt, and if so how and which ones


also any tips tricks and suggestions are welcome

Serj22
05-10-2009, 07:17 PM
1. what body filler should i use ( im thinking bondo )
2. what tools do i need
3. what materials do i need ( as in sand paper, paint scrapers, paint remover...etc.... )
4. what brand paint should i get, how much, and best method ( spray paint, liquid paint...etc...)
5. tips and tricks
6. how long do you think it will take
7.do some of the body panels on the first gen unbolt, and if so how and which ones



1. BONDO!
2. 300 Grit, 250, 150, and 600 sandpaper, flat piece of wood to glue sandpaper to, rotary or vibrating sander, water
3.Aircraft paint remover or (JASCO, works really good) but be careful with that stuff.
4.Rustoleum primer, and then go to an automotive store for an actual black primer auto color spray paint, pepboys or autozone (You'll need probably 20 cans at least for the whole car, and at least 20 cans of primer. ($200)
5.Same exact process as my "painting a spare tire" cover thing, but use your hand a lot to feel the car after bondoing in layers and pick up different colors of catalyst for it, that way you can have layers of blue, and red to see the difference before you primer, I'll give you a whole bondo lecture on techniques to make it smooth if you want.
6. To do all of this PROPERLY, this will take you at least a week, shortest 3 days. and do it in a GARAGE.
7. I don't know...

GTCB-chris
05-10-2009, 08:46 PM
give me that lecture then lol

Serj22
05-10-2009, 08:56 PM
First of all, remember to use your FACE!!! That's right, and your hand to check the smoothness of your bondo job. Get your face right onto the side of the car and run your hand on it to look for dents before you strip paint, just so you have an idea, because when the paint's all stripped off, the metal isn't as easy to tell the difference, until you get it all the way down. Get yourself some rubber scrapers:

Use them to mix yourself very small amounts of bondo at a time, with the catalyst, but not too much or it gets hard real fast and unworkable. DONT LET IT DRY ROUGH!!! It takes forever to sand smooth again, let it dry as smooth as possible. Wipe the bondo liberally over the whole car, and every time you do, wipe it off again with a 45* scraping motion to pull the bondo right back off, if the are is smooth, all the bondo will come off the area, if not, it will stay in the hole or dent. Use this tactic all over the car and it should look like your car had a bad sunburn and you put calmomile lotion on it everywhere. Wait for that layer to dry, then sand any bond areas very gently with an orbital sander, then mix up another batch of bondo, and do it again BUT THIS TIME, cover the areas that ALREADY have bondo very liberally, and do the same wiping motion, this ensures that if the dent it deeper, you fill it ALL THE WAY UP. then scrape off each time, over and over to the whole car again. When it's dry, sand it smooth again and take your primer and spray a straight line (doesn't have to be taped, or perfect) across the side of the car, or wherever your looking, wait for it to dry, then get the side of your face right on the line, and feel the whole car down with your hand. Your fingers can detect millionth's of a centimeter of an error, and run bondo over that spot, and sand to fix it up. Repeat this process till the car is as smooth as (insert sexual comment here) and then you're ready for primer.

A lot of people prefer to put bondo ALL OVER THE CAR, then sand it down, but... I don't like that, I prefer it to be mostly metal, not mostly filler. and makes sure you fix any huge dents with a hammer and ball pene before filling, if they're big enough, you may as well just fix most of it and make a very shallow fill.

GTCB-chris
05-11-2009, 08:13 AM
thanks dave, and other info will be much appreciated

MarkyMark
05-11-2009, 11:17 AM
Bondo filler is horrible.

Use Evercoat Rage Extreme filler. Anything with the brand Bondo on it sucks.

Serj22
05-11-2009, 11:22 AM
Like I said, different people do it different ways, see waht I mean Chris? While Marky mark doesn't particularly like it, I have used Bondo for everything, even to make parts for $300,000 boats.

MarkyMark
05-11-2009, 11:24 AM
Once you use Evercoat, you will never go back to bondo, trust me.

Serj22
05-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Never heard of it, where you get it from?

MarkyMark
05-11-2009, 11:43 AM
There's a small mom and pop type auto parts store here locally that carries it. You can get it online though.

Serj22
05-11-2009, 11:49 AM
I'll look it up and try it.