Throttle Body

[davidfugate]

My emissions light came on, took it to the dealer, they said it was a bad throttle body; car is 04 CRV-EX 4WD with about 48,000 on it. Repair costs are about 900, said they would split the cost with me since they have not seen this on the CRV, anyone else had problems with system? :mad:

[2RedV's]

My emissions light came on, took it to the dealer, they said it was a bad throttle body; car is 04 CRV-EX 4WD with about 48,000 on it. Repair costs are about 900, said they would split the cost with me since they have not seen this on the CRV, anyone else had problems with system? :mad:

Call Honda Corporate and open a case. Be real nice on the phone with them. The throttle body is a known issue.

Be wary when the dealer makes you a "special offer". An unscrupulous dealer will call Honda, not tell you they did and get the entire part and labor covered. They then tell you that "they" are going to cover a portion for you, collecting extra money from you in the process.

[silversurfer]

Check your warranty manual. I believe emissions equipment should have a 7 year or 80k mile warranty on it (federal standard on emissions equipment). If it is your throttle body then that should fall under powertain warranty, which should be 5yr/60kmiles. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. If I'm right, then you don't have to pay. Honda should warranty the issue under either of those warranties.

[Bimmer Pilot]

Those are both good tracks of advice.

[davidfugate]

Called dealership, not covered on either emissions or power train, just under the 3yr/36,000. Called Honda, verified and opened a case. Maybe it will help someone else or lead to a recall on the defective part or parts. Thanks for the information.


David

[silversurfer]

Did you check your manual? The 3yr/36k mile warranty is the bumper to bumper that covers everything but normal wear and tear items.

Check the warranty section of your manual and check for the specific system warranties. Things such as engine electronics (ECU), emissions and powertrain have a longer warranty on them, I am fairly certain of this.

Don't let the dealership try to screw you, because that is what they are exactly trying to do. A defective throttle body would most definitely apply to the 5yr/60k powertrain warranty. And if they try to tell you the throttle body is not part of the powertrain then they're out of their minds. Say, ok...then take the throttle body off and try to run the engine. ;)

Good Luck.

[rberman999]

If you follow the link here you will see what the fereral gov. requires within the emissions system to be covered and for how long. http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/warr95fs.txt
The only parts that fall under 80K are the Catalytic Converter, the ECU (main computer) and the OBD computer (if it is not part of the main ECU). All other parts are required to be covered for 2 years or 24,000 miles. Now a mfg. can on their own cover items for longer periods, but this is what is required by law. Just an FYI. Russ

[2RedV's]

Throttle bodies do not fall under powertrain warranties. It is not an internal engine or transmission part.

[davidfugate]

Honda Company went 75 / 25 with me, just got it fixed today, is running good so far, will keep everyone posted if it tears up again.

[Kaga04]

Just got a call from the mechanic with the same diagnosis; replace the throttle body assemble at a cost of $900+

Asked the same question about warranty and was told all that went at 3 Years/36,000 miles.

Sounds like this is a common fix for CR-Vs, no? Is/was anyone out there an owner of a 1988-1991 vintage Civic? This reminds me of the problem every Civic seemed to experience at about 50-60,000 when the igniter went out. I remember back then that Honda didn't charge me, or any of my other Civic-owning friends for this repair.

[2RedV's]

I repeat...
Call Honda Corporate and open a case. The throttle body issue is due to a poor design in which a particular interior part goes bad, but the throttle body was made in such a manner as to be unserviceable. Many people are getting this free or close to free.

[echosmyron]

I'm glad that I found this forum.

We also experienced the same issue with the throttle body repair on our '04 CRV. The dealer claimed that the throttle body is not part of the powertrain and is only covered by a 3/60,000 warranty. Our CRV is only three months over the warranty and hence not covered. The dealer and Honda didn't go very far with goodwill, the dealer giving only a $100 off the part. Honda boasts about their "no fine print" warranties and here they go and say that the 5/100,000 powertrain warranty does not include throttle body.

It's a known defect, evidenced by the Technical Service Bulletin and the number of complaints I have found on the internet.

If anyone can provide me with the details of a case where their CRV was within the powertrain warranty but still were able to get the part replaced, please let me know. I'd like specific details if possible like date, dealership, invoice number. I'm going to write a letter to Honda Canada.

[echosmyron]

Throttle bodies do not fall under powertrain warranties. It is not an internal engine or transmission part.

Funny, the throttle is listed as a component of the powertrain under their 2007 press release for the CRV:

http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=3653

[Honda Tech]

Funny, the throttle is listed as a component of the powertrain under their 2007 press release for the CRV:



The throttle body is listed as an emissions component in the warranty guide. The press release you linked to is an advertisement, not an official warranty parts list or guide, and mentions the electronic throttle control system as an enhancement to the powertrain performance. The electronic throttle control system has an 8/80 USA warranty, the throttle body does not.

Assuming your dealership contacted the factory representative, it was the rep, not the dealer that offered to participate with your cost of repair. You can write a letter, but a phone call to Honda's Customer Relations might help as well.

Good luck.

JD

[daniel]

Visit http://www.kingmotorsports.com/category.aspx?cat=61. Had the same problem with an 03. Diagnosed as a bad throttle body sensor, which honda doesn't sell seperately from the throttle body. King motor sports sells sensor for 145.00, a lot better than 900.00.

[Viper21]

I have a 2004 CR-V EX, back in Nov 05, with 35,900 my idling went lower then up, and sometimes died, took it took the dealer, however it was O.K. Later in the weekend, drove to Nevada, where it acted it up again, car was jerking while going slow, and then the engine light came on, we decided to go home early, due to the fact it was acting up. Once returning to the car and going home all was fine, we stopped in Ludlow, and the engine light came on, and it would not shift, made it home took it to the dealer and had repaired at no charge, they had to replace the throttle body, this past month, the idling is acting up again, but not enough to take it the dealer , since it won't act up there.