max tire size without suspension lift

w1eed
07-16-2009, 12:26 PM
Hey everyone.
I am just curious as to the maximum size tire able to be put onto a 2006 CRV without lifting the suspension. Any help would be appreciated. I am looking to add a little more aggressive off road tire.

GTCB-chris
07-16-2009, 05:54 PM
im not sure, but good luck finding a suspension lift out there, id just get some A/Ts I have some 33'' Timberline A/Ts on my K5 Blazer and they are great. i couldent see a crv needing any M/Ts

w1eed
07-16-2009, 10:20 PM
I do slot of surf fishing and the extra ground clearance would help alot. But finding a lift is near impossible siince none are offered for the 06. Would a larger size tire do anything to help? I'm not switching vehicles just to be higher on the beach. The crv does quite well actualy in the sand

GTCB-chris
07-17-2009, 05:15 PM
if you have say... 215's id put 225's on it, and id get some A/Ts

w1eed
07-17-2009, 08:20 PM
if you have say... 215's id put 225's on it, and id get some A/Ts

thanks. I will check into that. I just want a little more piece of mind on the beach. Do you have a pic of your blazer with the timberlines on it?

EternalCRV
07-20-2009, 02:18 PM
With 15" rims....... 215/75/r15

With 17" rims....... 225/55/r17

You maybe able to fit 225/70/r15 or even 225/75/r15 but may begin to rub when loaded or in tight turns.

Some tire shops carry a tool to test different offsets, backspacing and tire sizes. You can also order one from Summit Racing. A good tire shop should be able to help you.


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PHP-01201/

GTCB-chris
07-20-2009, 05:02 PM
thanks. I will check into that. I just want a little more piece of mind on the beach. Do you have a pic of your blazer with the timberlines on it?
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c147/mulletjunke/IMG00211.jpghttp://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c147/mulletjunke/IMG00206.jpg

beige2007
07-20-2009, 05:58 PM
Hey everyone.
I am just curious as to the maximum size tire able to be put onto a 2006 CRV without lifting the suspension. Any help would be appreciated. I am looking to add a little more aggressive off road tire.

215/65R16 is what comes up as a stock size for your V on tirerack.com

overall diameter is = 27 inches

you can probably put on some 235/60R16 for some fat street tires and still keep your overall diameter.

you can slap on some 225/70R16 and get some really good all-terrain tires but it will bring up your overall diameter to 28.5"

you can try 235/65R16 which are the same size tires as a honda odyssey minivan, but you can find some good all-season tires with a bit more agressive tread.......the least would be a more agressive look. that brings your overall diameter to about 28"

you could even try 235/70R16 for a good set of all-terrains 30" tall

as long as it doesn't rub on full compression and on full turns you can fit it in there.

the key is keeping the overall diameter......too big or too little can affect MPG, braking ability, steering, and essentially your gear ratio changes.

smaller diameter = smaller gear ratio = quicker start = easier to lock your brakes.

bigger diameter = higher gear ratio = need more to turn and stop the wheels because of its higher rotational mass....basically a heavier wheel and tire combo compared to stock.

the key is figuring out what you want to do with your ride and how much you're willing to spend.

good luck!:)

w1eed
07-20-2009, 08:37 PM
my idea is to get a little more aggressive tire and also to have the tires stick out a little past the wheel wells. I do not want to mess with a lift, and most likely will not find a lift for the car either. I was looking around and found a picture of a pathfinder with no lift, just a tire with a different offset. This is the precise look I would like to achieve just on the crv.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x39/fukinitupagain/IMG_0467.jpg
I am just lost as to what sizes I would need to look at to achieve something like this.....

Beige, are any of the tires you listed able to provide something like this? Sorry for all the questions.

GTCB-chris
07-20-2009, 09:09 PM
you could get wheel spacers and longer springs made, that would give you the look of tires sticking out, widening your wheel base, and giving you a inch or two of lift, but the springs are optional im sure its not something most people would like to do

beige2007
07-20-2009, 09:15 PM
i think your best bet would be a set of 225/70R16s with the stock wheels and maybe a set of 3/4" or 1" wheel spacers to make them stick out to the sides a bit....then you have to worry about the tires rubbing against the wheel well on full compression or the front tires rubbing against the inner fender walls in the front at full turn. WITHOUT the spacers i think you will get what you are looking for. some quick measurements will settle the soul.....

215/65R16 is the stock tire size......

the tire is 215 millimeters wide = 8.46 inches wide

the stock diameter is 27 inches versus 28.5 inches with the 225/70R16s

225 millimeters = 8.85 inches wide

you gain almost about 1/3 of an inch in width as far as the numbers go...but the tread pattern definitely gives you that extra girth.

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KOs have a beefy tread pattern........makes them look really big.

hope this helps.

jagermeister
07-21-2009, 12:42 AM
I also have a 2006 and I too wanted more lift for some light offroad/sand. The approach I used was to buy some stock 17" steel rims from a 2008 CRV. On these I put 225/65/17 tires. That way, I get 3/4" lift.

Read more on it with pics here (http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5502)

9 months later and I'm still totally happy with this combo. No rubbing, great tires and no issues at all.

TURK67
07-23-2009, 09:20 AM
hey guys I have 215/75/15's and so far no problem, ride is a little bumpy, thats all, there is some pictures.

GTCB-chris
07-23-2009, 02:44 PM
look pretty good buddie, id get some bigger springs for a inch or two of lift and it will be a pretty manly looking V

w1eed
07-23-2009, 10:27 PM
hey guys I have 215/75/15's and so far no problem, ride is a little bumpy, thats all, there is some pictures.
that looks good. what year is the v? looks like an 06. What type of tires are they? All I can tell is that they are general A/T's. May have to look into them,
look pretty good buddie, id get some bigger springs for a inch or two of lift and it will be a pretty manly looking V
Do you know of a company off hand that sells springs for an 06? I saw something on Ironman 4x4 however I cant ever get anyone on the phone nevertheless would be able to understand them cause they are in Quebec and speak french.

Radar24
07-24-2009, 08:32 AM
I also have a 2006 and I too wanted more lift for some light offroad/sand. The approach I used was to buy some stock 17" steel rims from a 2008 CRV. On these I put 225/65/17 tires. That way, I get 3/4" lift.

Sorry, but going by the number here are the figures; the math is inarguable (unless I made an error in the calculation, I double checked it...no triple checked it...) :confused::

Edit 8:30 PM: added calc for (215/65/16) which is jagermeister's size

Size: ..... 215/75/15 ......... 225/65/17 ........ (215/64/16)
Width: ...... 8.46" ................ 8.86" ................ (8.46")

Height x2
of rubber . 12.70" ............... 11.52" ............... (11.00")

Total
height: .... 27.70" ................28.52" ............... (27.00")

Difference in
Diameter.: 0.82" ....... (1.52")

Difference of
Radius: ... 0.41" .........(0.76")

The difference in tire diameter needs to be divided by two to get the actual height gained/lost. The look of the tire will be a little over 3/4" taller but that is not the real height gained in clearance. To get a 3/4" increase in clearance the diameter would have to increase by 1.50". A 29.20" high Diameter tire will most likely cause problems rubbing in a '06 CR/V. Without even trying it out that would be my guess. But what do I know; I have never even driver an '06. :rolleyes:

We would not want anyone to spend a lot of money and find out the actual height increase in clearance is only half that expected. :o

-Rg

TURK67
07-24-2009, 08:56 AM
2004 CRV Tires are 225/70/15 General Grabber A/T2
my next move is lift the crv 1 or 2 inches (if I can find the kit) and replace tires with these:

Radar24
07-24-2009, 09:17 AM
2004 CRV Tires are 225/70/15 General Grabber A/T2
my next move is lift the crv 1 or 2 inches (if I can find the kit) and replace tires with these:
It is your vehicle; go to town Turk.

You are going to destroy the looks of one very nice manly and well balanced CR-V. It is even in my choice of colors. To my taste any way it is poifect. That is right; poifect.

If you want that demolition derby look then by all means jack it 3" and put 31" tires on it! ;) Then you will need wider wheel arch and mud flap extensions to keep it legal if you want to drive in NH (likely in a lot of other states too).

Yes indeed, one nice demo derby look... :rolleyes:

You can hang your step ladder on your spare unless you are 6' 6" tall in which case you better chop the roof and increase that height a couple inches... for that real British Double Decker bus look... :):rolleyes: Now you need to paint it Red for authenticity ... get a noisy diesel I4 2L... clackyty clack... (not the Euro diesel, it must be bus noisy) :D

TURK67
07-24-2009, 09:21 AM
hahahahaha, I think you are right buddie! less is more...

GTCB-chris
07-24-2009, 05:00 PM
website:http://www.dobinsonsprings.com (http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/)
catalog: http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/catalogues/Honda.pdf
email: exportsales@dobinsonsprings.com (exportsales@dobinsonsprings.com)


this is the only one i can think of off hand

jagermeister
07-24-2009, 06:04 PM
Radar,

Thanks for checking me. There was an incorrect assumption in your calcs.

The 2006 CRV comes standard with 215/65/16, so the calculations follow.....

Size: ..... 215/65/16 ......... 225/65/17
Width: ...... 8.5" ................ 8.9"

Total
height: .... 27.0" ................28.5"

Difference in
Diameter.: 1.5"

Raise in height = Diameter divided by 2 = 1.5"/2= 3/4"

This is the calculator that I used here (http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp)

Please confirm. Cheers

Radar24
07-24-2009, 07:19 PM
Yes I erroneously used the size of Turk's tire; 215/75/15.
The reasoning is still valid for Turk. Surprisingly for you jagermeister a 215/65/16 has a smaller diameter than the equivalent width in a 15" rim but with a 75 profile.

In any case going out to 2 decimal points the difference I got was 1.52" and a radius of .76" So I stand corrected. Sorry. :o

-Rg

w1eed
07-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Turk,
were in NJ are you from? I am from Morris County. What year is your crv? I like the way the tires and the rack on the roof look. I may have to look into them.

Radar24
07-26-2009, 05:16 AM
Manly!

Really, it does look good. My point was I would not change much about Turks vehicle. Well maybe loose the rack for better MPG. If you want it to look like a stump jumper then you bought the wrong vehicle! You need a full size truck to do that. IMO.

-Rg

TURK67
07-27-2009, 08:11 AM
Turk,
were in NJ are you from? I am from Morris County. What year is your crv? I like the way the tires and the rack on the roof look. I may have to look into them.

I live in wayne, My crv is 04 so has a 15 dia. wheel, I think 06 has 16's

safari roof rack is Thule
http://www.prolineracks.com/thule-690-MOAB-safari-basket.html

good luck

miragebass
08-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Turk that V is pimp. I'm getting a new set of tires (crappy Duelers wore out at 22k and now at 26k there are chunks of rubber coming up in spots on the treads). I do a lot of back country adventure type sports, primarily mountain biking and some of the roads leading back into the trails are really rough, washed out, etc. Decided I'm going with Firestone Destination A/T tires as they have gotten amazing reviews and actually rank better in noise level/comfort than most highway suv tires. I was debating between the 205/75/15 and the 215/75/15. After seeing your pic I think I may go with the 205's. Don't get me wrong, your V looks awesome but it doesn't look like you have much clearance with the 215 tires. I only say that because often times we have 4 guys in the V with 4 bikes on the back rack, and the back end sits really low to the tires. Makes me nervous about bottoming out with the 215's (my v is an 02). Anyhow, I'm gonna hopefully have the tires on by mid week. We're supposed to have a group mountain bike ride Thur night so we'll see how the tires perform then.

Radar24
08-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Turk that V is pimp. I'm getting a new set of tires (crappy Duelers wore out at 22k and now at 26k there are chunks of rubber coming up in spots on the treads). I do a lot of back country adventure type sports, primarily mountain biking and some of the roads leading back into the trails are really rough, washed out, etc. Decided I'm going with Firestone Destination A/T tires as they have gotten amazing reviews and actually rank better in noise level/comfort than most highway suv tires. I was debating between the 205/75/15 and the 215/75/15. After seeing your pic I think I may go with the 205's. Don't get me wrong, your V looks awesome but it doesn't look like you have much clearance with the 215 tires. I only say that because often times we have 4 guys in the V with 4 bikes on the back rack, and the back end sits really low to the tires. Makes me nervous about bottoming out with the 215's (my v is an 02). Anyhow, I'm gonna hopefully have the tires on by mid week. We're supposed to have a group mountain bike ride Thur night so we'll see how the tires perform then.
Well though out good move! The 215 is more macho but the 205 in the same profile might be more practical in your case. What I would give to join you on a beginner's trail. No rock jumping or technically difficult stuff as I had only done it a few times. Never in the more difficult terrain out west.

Unfortunate handcycles do not do well in such terrain.

-Rg

miragebass
08-10-2009, 01:35 PM
Just talked to the local firestone store today. Their prices are a bit above that of Tire Rack's, but they are running a special on the Destination series buy 3 get 1 free through the end of august. Basically what it came down to was 4 205/75/15 Firestone destination A/T's mounted and balanced out the door for $400.36 Tires had to be ordered from the warehouse but they'll be here by next Monday and they said they'll do same day installation. Awesome deal to me, like I said I'll let everyone know how these things perform. Hell there is no way they could possibly be worse than the friggin Bridgestone Dueler pos stock tires (aside from probably a slight drop in mileage, but that's a trade with any All-Terrain).

EternalCRV
08-10-2009, 01:59 PM
hey guys I have 215/75/15's and so far no problem, ride is a little bumpy, thats all, there is some pictures.

Nice choices......looks good

TURK67
08-12-2009, 10:57 AM
I go to jersey shore every year and loaded roof rack and cargo (my crazy wife takes a lot of stuff for one week) plus bikes. and with 215's I have no clearance problem, but off course I have have no idea how much weight I put on the crv. Be safe and go with 205's but I don't think it will be big different.

check this site and see the differences beetween tires

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

good luck

LeRox
09-15-2009, 10:01 AM
Sweeeeeet looking TURK!

I use my rear door glass often and was wondering can you still open/close rear door glass w/ the 215/75/15 on the rear door.

a89aries
09-25-2009, 11:06 AM
Any idea on what the Max tire size that can go onto the back door?

a89aries
11-24-2009, 03:24 PM
Got the new tires on last weekend! They look great! 215/75/R15

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs037.snc3/12470_524351651242_331100922_1300144_223841_n.jpg


http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs037.snc3/12470_524351885772_331100922_1300190_7920258_n.jpg

Jwood70
11-24-2009, 07:24 PM
That looks very nice. My only thing is the white letters. Unless there is the white band on the other side, I wouldn't have put the white letters out. But that is just my own personal tastes.

miragebass
12-03-2009, 01:19 PM
Looks great on that V with the 215's. Kinda wish I had gotten 215's or even 225's on mine instead of the 205 A/T's. It's nice that I know I won't have any clearance issues in the wheel well but the extra 1/2 to 1 inch of ground clearance would be nice.

Danno
01-06-2010, 02:07 PM
just in case anybody is reading this still, I thought I'd put up a quick post about mine:

a couple of months ago mom called and asked about new tires on her 05 CRV (the one that I bought off of her just a couple of weeks ago). she needed something that was an LT or offroadish tire (for driving through corn/bean fields during harvest and minor waterway driving) I did some research here and from basic knowledge on sizing and took some measurements of her stock sized ones and clearance and came up with a good basic tire that I thought might work.

after seeing it on the thing I was worried it would rub during turns, but it doesn't. I'm still worried that if I tried anything fancy off road in it that I'd get some rubbing during suspension flex, but for basic snow driving and through the fields it rocks. the tread is awesome, can't say about the wear, but seems good so far. took a small mpg hit according to mom (but it was right when winter hit, so i dunno) and speedo is off about 3-4%. Road noise surprises me because the tread looks so aggressive, but it's not any different than before!

the Tire is a Fuzion XTi 225/70-16 (I seriously wouldn't go any taller or wider, but that's just me)

so far, i highly recommend it.

Thivi
02-19-2010, 07:23 AM
SO what is the "70" number a measurement for. I was looking at 235/75/15's but I was told they might rub, which number should be a little smaller to ensure there's no rubbing.

motoguy128
02-19-2010, 08:04 AM
SO what is the "70" number a measurement for. I was looking at 235/75/15's but I was told they might rub, which number should be a little smaller to ensure there's no rubbing.


You can do a wiki search as well. But the "70", the second number in a tire's size, is the aspect ratio. This is the ratio or precentage of the tire height compared to the width. So a 225/65 has a tread that's 225mm wide and (225*.70) and a sidewall that's 157.5 mm tall. So a 205/65, would have a smaller overall diameter than a 215/65.

irwinje
02-19-2010, 08:24 AM
A little late to the conversation, but I have an 06 and a litle experience with differently sized tires. I do a lot of camping and off-road driving to help maintain local disc golf courses.
- 215/65R16 (stock) are a little small but deliver good fuel economy
- 235/70R16 (came on my Pilot Rims) I felt these were a little too big. There was rubbing when I made tight turns and they weren't even AT tires
- 225/70R16 (I upgraded to when I replaced the 235s) these were Yokohama Geolander AT/S and they were great, no rubbing and they lifted me about 1/2" (larger diameter tire)
- 215/70R16 (my new tires) These are around 1% smaller than the previously owned 225s and they are great. There is room for snow/mud buildup but still look beefier than the stock tires. I got General Grabber AT2s (they are agressive looking) and so far have been the most capable "off-road" tire I've had.
I would have gotten the Grabbers in 225/70R16s, but that size was not offered. I am quite happy with the 215/70s though

Thivi
02-19-2010, 03:38 PM
Those General Grabber AT2's look like something I could use. I just saw them online in a 225/75/15, those would fit with minimal rubbing no?

irwinje
02-20-2010, 09:32 AM
Those would essentially be the same size that I have, but since my wheels are 16s they have a slightly different ratio. Anyhow, I think those would fit nicely and would not rub anywhere.
Depending on what you currently are running, you may see a slight drop in mpg (1-2 mpg). Same with the odo, cross reference it with a gps if you have one but my odo is off by 1-2 mph since I changed from the stock size tires.

Thivi
02-25-2010, 08:48 AM
What about tire sizes that say 30x10.5? I'm getting used to reading 225/75/15 etc. but I don't know these sizes. Is it just inches? Why the change?

GTCB-chris
02-25-2010, 08:53 AM
hahahahaha...

my k5 blazer rubbed with 33x12.50 tires.
it is inches... first number indicates height, 2nd indicated width

aint no way you are fitting 30x10.50 tires on a cr-v

Thivi
02-25-2010, 09:32 AM
No I wasn't saying if I'd fit them or not, I just saw those numbers when looking at sizes, and wasn't sure what the measurements were for sure. Thanks for the clarification, glad you enjoyed that haha.