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Psyman42
06-24-2007, 11:44 PM
I jus got my 07 V a month ago and it came with Bridgestone tires...today I saw a V on the road and notice it had different tires, some brand that started w/ a Y...what do you guys have??

smig
06-25-2007, 07:27 AM
I`ve got 07 wheels, came with Michelin tyres

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/smig/CRV%20Pics_High%20Res/CRV%20Pics_Low%20Res/DSC01830.jpg

Jopopsy
06-25-2007, 07:32 AM
Dunlops - OEM

Black Pearl
06-25-2007, 11:04 AM
07 with alloy wheels

Bridgestone Duellers

rrbhokies
06-25-2007, 12:59 PM
Mine are Continental. (07 w/Alloy Wheels)

Why so many different brands for the same 07 CRV??

Psyman42
06-25-2007, 06:13 PM
Mine are Continental. (07 w/Alloy Wheels)

Why so many different brands for the same 07 CRV??

my thoughts exactly...from my understanding all our 07 Vs are made in Japan and none in the USA, so if its all coming from the same factory, why the different tires???

VIVADUDE
06-27-2007, 05:56 PM
2007, Continental 4x4 Contacts....................

Will 14
06-27-2007, 06:18 PM
2007 EX-L in Canada: Mine came with Bridgestone Duellers.

connermt
06-29-2007, 11:29 AM
2007, Continental 4x4 Contacts....................

Ditto here

hondaacura
07-10-2007, 08:31 PM
OEM Rims, Goodyear Triple Treads. 2001 CR-V

KenC
07-11-2007, 02:15 AM
g'day from australia,
07 sports made in Thailand, got Bridgestone Duellers on mine.

senorgregster
07-15-2007, 07:41 AM
2007, Continental 4x4 Contacts....................

same here.

Tiger
07-15-2007, 01:40 PM
continental 4x4 contacts

Carvingbarn
07-15-2007, 02:10 PM
New 07 with alloy wheels and Bridgestone Duellers.

1ownerT
07-17-2007, 08:36 PM
my thoughts exactly...from my understanding all our 07 Vs are made in Japan and none in the USA, so if its all coming from the same factory, why the different tires???

The V's are made in Japan and Ohio.
BTW, Mines from Japan wearing the Duelers

Mac81
07-23-2007, 11:45 AM
17's with Michelin Latitude Tour HP

hardcore zac
07-23-2007, 10:04 PM
I jus got my 07 V a month ago and it came with Bridgestone tires...today I saw a V on the road and notice it had different tires, some brand that started w/ a Y...what do you guys have??


with a y?
yokohama?

chrissy
07-24-2007, 05:39 AM
Hey.....
I`ve got 17 inch wheels on my 02 CRV.....and i`m using Michelin Diamaris 225/17/55.....i cant fault these tyres.....they are simply superb....especially if you`ve got a heavy acelerator foot ;)
The stock duellers are not the best in my opinion and often felt less than adequate in varying conditions.....

Alpine
07-24-2007, 06:01 AM
Pirelli Scorpion STR in stock size on stock rim. 2001 gen 1 CR-V.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9255/pirelli006small1uc.jpg

fjules
09-29-2007, 04:31 PM
Just picked up my EX-L that was assembled in Ohio, it has Continental 4x4 contacts.

Black Pearl
09-29-2007, 10:51 PM
Congratulations on your new purchase and welcome to the club. What year and color did you get? Post some pictures of your new V.

rjam2
11-05-2007, 03:02 PM
Mine are Continental. (07 w/Alloy Wheels)

Why so many different brands for the same 07 CRV??

I wish I had your situation. My 2003 CR-V came with P205/R70/15 BF Goodrich Touring T/A SR4's. They've been great tires, but the replacement selection for that size is very limited. I wish I had 16" rims. But the vehicle handles very well, and I don't want to mess things up.

lizzurd
11-05-2007, 03:37 PM
I wish I had your situation. My 2003 CR-V came with P205/R70/15 BF Goodrich Touring T/A SR4's. They've been great tires, but the replacement selection for that size is very limited. I wish I had 16" rims. But the vehicle handles very well, and I don't want to mess things up.

Actually the choice of tires in your size isn't that limited. One of the most popular tires my dealership sells for CRV's is the Michelin Hydroedge.

Here is a selection i came up with from tireracks website.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?width=205%2F&ratio=70&diameter=15&startIndex=0&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&performance=GT&performance=UHPAS&performance=HPAS&performance=PAS&performance=GTAS&performance=ST&performance=AS&RunFlat=All&x=33&y=16

pcm
12-02-2007, 11:13 PM
Just put 4 new GOODYEAR Assurance Comfortread on my '01 cr-v 2wd. Love them. Quiet, good riding tire and good reviews/ratings. pcm

beazie
06-28-2008, 05:37 PM
Im about to get 235/75/15 BFGoodyear All-terrains

Swiftone
06-29-2008, 09:05 PM
My 1997 Gen-1 I think originally came with Bridgestone Duelers based on the original Spare it still has attached.

I replaced a worn set of Goodyear somethingorothers with Pirelli Scorpion AT-R's at 205-70-15 size.

So far they are FANTASTIC. These tires have an agressive look, stance and tread which is perfect for trail stomping and general mud-use. Highway use is not as noisy as I was warned for, but I can see that the treadwear may not stand up so well to frequent highway driving. Not the tires fault though as they were designed as All Terrain.

Inspiredtiki
06-30-2008, 05:07 PM
I got Continental somethingorothers on there now, but once I get my new rims, I'm putting on Goodyear Fortera TripleTreds... similar to the Assurance, but looks like can handle gravel roads better (5 miles of my daily drive is under construction and is gravel...)

Davecr-v
07-05-2008, 05:43 PM
I have the Duelers on right now (I hate them) but am going to switch to Pirelli P4's they look like a good fuel efficient quiet and grippy enough tire especially since it snowed in NY twice this winter non of which I needed 4wd or even all season tires and the one time I was out in deep snow I was on my bald duelers and still managed. I also looked at Yokohama Avid's which are the same price as the Pirelli's but have worse treadlife and Toyo Versado LX's which were two expensive and hard to get a hold of.

PartyVan
07-06-2008, 04:55 PM
Mine came with duelers it's a bit noisy and grip is not that high, whenever I make a u turn or a tight turn the tires would squeel. So I ordered a new set of wheels from Tirerack and put Goodyear F1 all seasons on it.

jpod
07-06-2008, 06:31 PM
My 08 came with Continental 4X4 Contacts. Initially they were almost as stiff and noisy as my 04's OEM Duelers. They have softened and quieted considerably, but are wearing fast. I will probably have to replace them around 20K.

JPO

mycle1000@yahoo.com
07-23-2008, 11:02 AM
'08 cr-v ex
it came with the crappy duelers.
on a side note about the brands: when i was shopping for my '07 civic at the local dealer, i noticed that the us manufactured cars came with goodyears and the canadian civics had the 'stones. maybe that is where the differing brands come into play. our cr-v was made in mexico and has the bridgestones.

Badgerland
07-23-2008, 01:49 PM
Replace the OEM Duellers at 24k with Cooper CS4 's Love them!

Davecr-v
07-28-2008, 07:52 PM
Duelers lasted a while replaced them with Pirelli P4's so far so good less noise and better road manners although I expect that they are Pirelli's what I want to see is that 85K mile tread life, the Italians aren't known for reliability.

rkelley
08-26-2008, 12:39 PM
I have Yokahama tires...OEM were bridgestones that were disappointing...I'm not real pleased with the Yokahama tires either. They cupped and I had them balanced, the vehicle aligned and rotate them every other oil change.

Rhedf350
08-29-2008, 01:27 PM
The Continental's came off this week. They barely made 30k. I wanted the Cooper CS4's, and ended up with Mastercraft Avenger Touring LSR's, which were less expensive. They're Cooper brand also and have an 80k wearout rating and M+S. So far so good and we'll see how they are in the snow season.

electric V
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
I Have Brigstone Grand Touring Tires in the front. El Dorado (i have never heard of that brand before or since but i got those tires for free anyway, and the spare tire on the back is a Brigstone Premium edition or something like that.

electric V
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Cooper Tires are really good. My dad has some Z-rated ones on his RX-8 i dont think that any CR-V would need them ecept for mine when i drop the motor and tranny

ehamcrv
09-12-2008, 04:56 PM
I just bought Cooper CS4's for my 02. I went a little bigger with 215 70 15's. They look pretty good ,I only have about 20 miles on them but so far so good. I bought them from a small chain tire store and got some great service.

Radar24
09-18-2008, 10:16 PM
I am reading good and not so good comments about the same tires.
That is Kind of odd?


What is a bad tire?

If you say it’s one that gets less than 30,000 miles!
That is bogus. The reason being there are too many variable effecting tire life.
It is a function of tread compound first of all. A real good tire for handling and traction in general will not last much more than 30,000 miles. Such as H, V or the high speed rated tires. S or T rated tires usually last longer but do not handle as well.

From Wikipedia:

“Tread compound development is an exercise in compromise, as hard compounds have long wear characteristics but poor traction; whereas soft compounds have good traction but poor wear characteristics”

These lower speed rated tires have harder deeper tread or grooves so they last longer. However they tend to heat up so cannot be driven at higher speed. Depth being a separate issue from thread compound. That does not mean it is a bad if rated H or V. The tradeoff is they have super handling and are stickier but with shorter life.

So if that is why you write they are bad, don’t.

Before you label a tire as bad due to not lasting more than 30,000 miles, make sure you have maintained the proper air inflation pressure and the vehicle is aligned per spec. For that matter if the suspension is modified or the wheels do not have the stock size or offset:


Do Not Say that the Tire is BAD!

I have Contact 4x4 with a not so high wear rating of 440(?). I do not expect them to last much over 30,000 miles. But with an A –Traction and A - Temperature rating I expect them to stick to the road well. And not fall apart should the temperature go over 100F and I drive at over 80 MPH.

I do know that they ride very smooth with no vibrations. Very little weight was required to balance as they came. And are made in a segmented molds in Japan. These are all good signs; I expect that willl be a very good tire. Whenever the first first tire shows significant cupping, wear or 24k miles is reached, I will replace the set of four tires with my preference for a CR-V, a 102T rated Michelins in the stock 225/65R17 size.
If I can afford them :)

We will find out in time.

-RG

Rhedf350
09-19-2008, 08:38 AM
Correct Radar. The Continentals did handle well and the treadwear is about right for the compound. And the variables like people's driving habits and other factors must be considered. For our 07 car, since it's a grocery getter and a snow car that will make a run every day up to 9000 feet during winter and also be taken on family trips, a tire has to do a lot. So we looked primarily at M+S ability and longevity. The solution for us, since a long wearing tire is probably a harder compound, is varying the pressure a few pounds for comfort and handling. The desire is good handling and consistent feel.

Radar24
09-20-2008, 06:16 AM
Rred350,
You might want to check the link below.

I do not know much about Cooper tires.
Other than my dad had some non-belted tires and they sucked big time.

Or maybe it was his '64 Fairlane 500 with a V8 260 CID that sucked.
I forgot. I think he used to get very few miles out of the non-belted tires he could afford. Like 12-15k miles before they wore out, had ply separations with huge bubbles or developed some cracks.


Maybe I'm wrong, I just kind of equate Cooper Tires and all of the off brands I think it makes under different private labels as a third rate manufacturer that makes tires. End of story. No big R&D, testing or real quality behind them. You might get a good one and then again you might not.

Are feeling lucky?
If so then buy Cooper if you think they are a good buy.
Then again even Firestone farts every once in a while.

Pee-e-uh!

Anyhow, I kind of remember Cooper tires having a lot of recalls not that long ago.

http://www.usautoinjurylaw.com/cases/tires/failure-cooper.htm (http://www.usautoinjurylaw.com/cases/tires/failure-cooper.htm)

True some claims are fribulous. But Cooper Tire has about three dozen recalled tires. It is hard to count. Kind of funny but I see only two Bridgestone (Firestone not inclusive as they were bought out by them), one Michelin and Zero Continentals on the list of recalled tire manufacturers.
Well, nobody is perfect.

That is kind of odd don’t you think? Or is it? Cooper Tires with all those recalls.

As it is often said:
“You get what you pay for.”
Most of the time,

-RG

Davecr-v
09-21-2008, 09:02 PM
I am reading good and not so good comments about the same tires.
That is Kind of odd?


What is a bad tire?

If you say it’s one that gets less than 30,000 miles!
That is bogus. The reason being there are too many variable effecting tire life.
It is a function of tread compound first of all. A real good tire for handling and traction in general will not last much more than 30,000 miles. Such as H, V or the high speed rated tires. S or T rated tires usually last longer but do not handle as well.

From Wikipedia:

“Tread compound development is an exercise in compromise, as hard compounds have long wear characteristics but poor traction; whereas soft compounds have good traction but poor wear characteristics”

These lower speed rated tires have harder deeper tread or grooves so they last longer. However they tend to heat up so cannot be driven at higher speed. Depth being a separate issue from thread compound. That does not mean it is a bad if rated H or V. The tradeoff is they have super handling and are stickier but with shorter life.

So if that is why you write they are bad, don’t.

Before you label a tire as bad due to not lasting more than 30,000 miles, make sure you have maintained the proper air inflation pressure and the vehicle is aligned per spec. For that matter if the suspension is modified or the wheels do not have the stock size or offset:


Do Not Say that the Tire is BAD!

I have Contact 4x4 with a not so high wear rating of 440(?). I do not expect them to last much over 30,000 miles. But with an A –Traction and A - Temperature rating I expect them to stick to the road well. And not fall apart should the temperature go over 100F and I drive at over 80 MPH.

I do know that they ride very smooth with no vibrations. Very little weight was required to balance as they came. And are made in a segmented molds in Japan. These are all good signs; I expect that willl be a very good tire. Whenever the first first tire shows significant cupping, wear or 24k miles is reached, I will replace the set of four tires with my preference for a CR-V, a 102T rated Michelins in the stock 225/65R17 size.
If I can afford them :)

We will find out in time.

-RG

I'll agree with you that tread life doesn't determine a bad tire However for what most people are looking for (All weather/touring/general highway) tire you expect some good length out of them. I expect an more rough off road tire to wear out (more resistance and heat) but for something such as a Pirelli P4 what I am riding on I expect more than 30K because of proper inflation, rotation, an easy 40 mile all highway commute and the tire has a low resistance design. Most people have the misconception that a tire with a smoother tread design is going to have less grip than a big blocky tire I had my worn out duelers and new P4's off road and the Pirellis just dug in I barley used the rear wheel power because the tires clawed in VS. the dumb blocky tire which I am sure in deep mud or snow would have worked better by pushing the car and displacing more material; however in the lighter looser surface the tires just spun more. I guess this isn't a direct response to your comment but another warning to not go overboard with off road treads because a solid low rolling resistance tread will probably keep you well on road in real world conditions if you are on a farm or in a place where it snows 12" regularly you probably are better off with chunky tires or snow's.

Radar24
09-22-2008, 04:43 AM
DaveCR-V,

I agree with pretty much everything that you wrote. Except for this statement:

“VS. the dumb blocky tire which I am sure in deep mud or snow would have worked better by pushing the car and displacing more material; however in the lighter looser surface the tires just spun more.”

AS I read on the Michelin’s site at one point, there are two factors affecting traction in ice and snow. One is as you might have even mention, the fact that a zillion little edges are better than the way fewer less edges blocky design type of tread. I don’t remember what it had to say about mud. I just do not see any joy in getting your vehicle all trashed with mud and then driving it around as if it were a badge of well, let’s not call it stupidity but more like hey I was playing in the mud having a blast. Were you?

Secondly and this is the most common misconception of snow tires is that for traction in snow you need the bigger blocks and open type tread ‘for pushing’ effect. I too used to be of that persuasion. Au contraire. More smaller blocks as long as they eject snow or self-clean will work better than bigger blocks. I say this totally being convinced after researching tires in an older Michelin web site. The traction was rated for all their tires on the scale of 1 to ten. Ten being the best. The ‘X’ (I think) was rated 9 in ice and 8 in snow. Anyhow based on recommendations by Costco’s tire manager and a money back warrantee I decided to try them. While the OEM Goodyear Eagle GAs design was much more open than the Michelin X which looks more like a road tire, the former sucked with under 10,000 miles on them yet the latter has not let me down thru quite a few winters and has almost 30,000 miles on them. In my 2WD truck without positraction, or the ’97 S-10. They have always brought me up the hill on my street all the way home. Not even ½ worn yet. The new Michelin compounds have both traction and long life. I have no idea how they can do that. Normally it is a trade-off.

I hope I am not jinxing myself.


Also from driving M151 jeeps in the Army. And having to walk because thay were always getting stuck in the mud.


Oh, I cannot make sense out of your last few lines. I gave up trying to make sense.


Otherwise I totally agree that you agree. :)

-RG

electric V
09-22-2008, 07:02 PM
Radar 24,

It does seem odd that many people like or dislike many of the tires listed but there will never be one tire that everyone will like because we all have different likes and dislikes ( trush me I have been in my psychology class for 5 weeks now I almost have a Doctorate in Fake Science too).

Tires are made by many manufactures for many pourposes (Duh). What one person finds bad another person may find good. Pirelli Tires are usually a softer compound than most while Michelin are usually a harder compound.

Most people generally dislike run flat tires because they are less resistant to friction.

Most people like all weather because they are all weather

Most people don't like off-road tires because they wear more on the street than regular tires.

Most people don't like noisy tires no matter how wwll they preform.

Hope this helps.

Radar24
09-22-2008, 07:56 PM
elevtric v,
If :
"Most people generally dislike run flat tires because they are less resistant to friction."

If less resistant to friction that would make them roll easier? HAH?
If so then why would anyone dislike them?

Or is my head on backwards?

Otherwise I totally agree.

-RG

electric V
09-22-2008, 08:16 PM
lower g's on a skidpad (friction was not the right word to use) so a rtunflat would get .75 while another tire might get .83 just saying


I think that it was funny that you quoted Wikipiedia because all of my
Highschool and college teachers hate wikipiedia because anyone can go on there an write what they want even if it is wrong. it is more of those you had to be there things.


Friction was the wrong word to use though sorry. and still a tire with less friction will give less grip and that can be bad in some rainy situations.

Radar24
09-22-2008, 11:15 PM
electric v,
I saw this coming but it was just a quick source in plain language.
That is all. Just some overachieving writer or a qualified one?
Hey it sounded good to me :)
-RG

ivicr
09-23-2008, 03:22 PM
08 EX-4wd
Continental's on mine from VA

electric V
09-23-2008, 05:36 PM
Radar 24,

Wikipidea is what I had used for some of my essays so I think that I will let it slide.

Also on the Chevy Cobalt/ Pontiac G5 I know that they are using lower rolling resistance tires to help increase fuel economy. Is this a practical solution because I can only imagine that driving a car on one of those tires in the snow or rain would be very difficult if not unsafe.

Radar24
09-23-2008, 11:31 PM
I am no tire expert. Far from it. But I believe that they can maximize traction and lower rolling resistance on the road. By design of the sidewall and tread on a computer. And selection of rubber compounds by trial and error most likely. With a touch of educated guess. I do not think rolling resistance and traction on the road are exclusive.

Now I have done my research this time. I and am just winging it, shooting from the hip, taking a wild stab...

You need to get your mind out of the mud! And dirt. As in where you need really low pressures or flotation tires. Most miles are put on on the highway unless you have a dune buggy.

I guess that is better than in the gutter. :p

-RG

Swampbaby
09-24-2008, 01:59 AM
Bridgestone Duellers came on mine and probably will go for the Michelin's when replacing.

Radar24
09-29-2008, 01:58 AM
Does anyone have any firm hard evidence that an OEM tire with the same brand, model and type is of different quality than the same tire sold retail? Yet I keep reading just that same opinion. I would really like to see qualified evidence.

I do not mean "my tires only lasted xyz miles. It sucks". Usually there are too many variables for an average car owner to be able to tell. Compounding the problem performance tires have compounds that do not wear long. As a design tradeoff they stick to the pavement much better. Then on another vehicle they have reasonable life.

If they fell apart or developed out of round issues (what I call bubbles or ply separation) then that might be a justifiable reason to bash that brand. Like some 4x4 Freestones did at one point. Even though anyone can hit a real big pothole and damage an otherwise good tire. One with good construction, manufacturing process and quality controls. Perfectly fine until unexpectedly the forgotten pothole was hit.

"Tire XYZ sucks" versus the same "Tire XYZ rocks" voiced by another member.

Is that really possible?

-RG

KevinH
10-03-2008, 11:40 AM
2007, Continental 4x4 Contacts w/Alloy Wheels

I'd say they are down to 5/32 of tread left with 20K miles? Not good for the home team.

Usually run 40 PSI. 80/20 Highway/City. 27 to 30 MPG/Tank. Like the way the tires feel, did well in what snow we were able to enjoy, great in the wet, not to noisy in the dry.

Will probably try something else (Manufacturer) if I replace all four when the time comes.

tcturner
10-03-2008, 12:19 PM
I think radar24 put these tires on my radar and I checked them out.Found out they are Michelin Harmony tires renamed for Costco and Sams,Canada Tire call theirs Destiny only diff is the warranty is only honoured at their stores.(free tire rotion ,flat repair).I have had them 2 weeks and noise is down 50% and ride has softened greatly.They were on sale at $60.00 off the purchase of 4.I got 33K out of the Duellers and if I had of known what a difference good tires make on the V they would of been gone sooner.

Radar24
10-03-2008, 12:19 PM
WOW! That is not bad, When new the are probably 9/32 or 19/64. So they are right about half worn if you wait until the wear indicator shows to replace them. You will have 40k miles then. They are supposed to last that long according to the 440 wear index. But they normally never make it that far. I will be happy with 30,000 miles.

At 40 PSI pressure isn't it wearing in the middle more than the edges?

-RG

Radar24
10-03-2008, 12:39 PM
TcTurner,
I'm telling you! Unless you have a specific odd requirement, you cannot beat Michelins.

All these other guys with loyalty to other brands do not know what they are missing.
They should be good to 60K miles easy if your V is in alignment.

I do not know about snow and ice traction on that model since I never have had them but I found the 'X' to be excelent.

I've heard that Bridgestones ride harsh. From the mouths of those that sell them.


-RG

electric V
10-07-2008, 05:41 PM
pirelli tires are the exact opposite of michelin tires, they are a softer compound and michelin are a harder comound (I might have said that already)

Radar 24,

Someone could tell you that you don't know what you are missing because you don't use pirelli tires. I think that tires are all about personal prefferences anyone can change their mind of what they think is best in a few years from now.

Just wanting to play devils advocate :D

Radar24
10-07-2008, 07:18 PM
ElectricV,
Funny you should mention that. Not all Pirelli tires are soft, are they? Just as not all Michelins are hard. Michelin makes V and Z rated tires that are softer. Consequently they do not wear 30,000 miles but hug to pavement as well as any V or Z Pirelli. Goodyear or Bridgestones for that matter.

This actually happened about 14 years ago at Sam’s Club. My sister needed tires for her 91 Accord that came with Michelins. Never rotated they had close to 40k miles. To save a few buck we settled on low end Pirelli P rated tires. Model P4 or whatever, I don’t remember. But they were about $50 each or less. I noticed that the total weight on the first three tires after balancing was at or more than I normally set the limit at for weights: 2-2.5 oz. When it came to the forth tire it required over 4 oz. And more than one attempt to balance it. At that point I said no way!

The car was not vibrating and the Michelins had less than 2 oz per tire. That indicated that the wheels were fine and the machine or the tires were not. The techs kept blaming the wheels. I finally convinced them to try balancing the wheel alone. It was dead nut on requiring zero weight. They mounted another tire then…

After the 3rd or 4th additional tire they finally found one that was under 2.5 oz and not over 3.5 oz.

Funny but in over 30 years I have never had a Michelin that required more than 2.5 oz. Most run under 2 oz. total weight. Even in size 235/70/15 LT tires this is true! I have had some that required as little as ¼ to ½ oz! Now that in all likelihood is a well made tire so true it requires very little additional weight to balance it.

Since I do not have X-rays or tire truing equipment that to me seems a reasonable measure of trueness.

I will never buy Pirellis for my vehicles. That could be asking for trouble needlessly.
Yes things change with time but if you are having good luck why change.

May you enjoy your Pirellis. :)

-RG

electric V
10-08-2008, 04:41 PM
Radar 24,

I don't have Pirelli tires on my V. I was just playing devils advocate I do strongly support your claim that the Michilen tires are better but I think more so for street use. I would use Pirelli tires for some trak use because they are generaly softer.

Radar24
10-09-2008, 04:15 AM
Electric V,
Not being able to see one's face (not that I would want to) it is generally hard to tell whether one is pulling your chain or not. Thus the use of :) faces. Not generaly, but generally. I would be completely lost without spell checker myself. :confused:

I thought you were but I could not resist telling my 'Pirelli can generally have poor quality controls’ story.

A real life situation that may have been unlikely due to the luck of the draw. Instead generally it might have been a near out of spec situation as knowingly purchased by Sam's Club to sell at a real low price. Knowing well most saps would just put up with a tire requiring excessive amounts of weights. With the resulting poor ride or frequent re-balancing required for a mediocre ride. A situation possibly due to being out of round. Maybe not all that noticeable at 4 oz but at 8 Oz it should be for sure as a poor ride. I have been told by Michelin trained techs (yes there is a Michelin school) that 3 oz of total weight is considered the threshold by Michelin for medium size tires as an indicator of generally having problems. That just as I have observed most Michelin tires run at or below 2 oz.

So put tire sidewall dressing on your sticky Pirellis when you buy some that require 4 oz...Oh wait dressing is slippery defeating the softness advantage...turning it into an allegedly generally harder Michelin poor performance. :confused:

Is there a Pirelli school? I have never heard of one. :)

-RG

electric V
10-09-2008, 04:02 PM
Radar 24,

I allready said in my last post that I agree with you that Michillen tires are the best. Yes I was just pulling your chain.

KevinH
10-10-2008, 06:47 AM
At 40 PSI pressure isn't it wearing in the middle more than the edges?
-RG

No. All four tires show even wear across the width. Rotation has been between 8K and 10K. I'm a easy driver, never in a hurry and lite on the gas and brake. Usually 5 miles above posted while driving.:rolleyes:

Now when riding a different story altogether.:cool:

Radar24
10-11-2008, 02:04 AM
KevinH,
If it is evenly worn with 40 PSI then the construction must allow it.
Or your gauge is off a bit. I think heavy cornering wears the edges too disguising center wear. Or any combination of all three factors might be the case. Even though you did you are an easy driver. What is easy to some is Demo Derby style to others. :D

I set my Contact 4x4 at 36 PSI just yesterday.
Although at 20 degrees in Jan-Feb it will be down to 32 PSI.

For now I’ll see how it rides at 36 PSI.

Doesn’t the TPWS light go on outside the range of 25-35PSI? I thought I read that in the ’07-‘08 shop manual? :confused:

-RG.

Radar24
10-12-2008, 08:56 AM
We put on 200 highway miles with 36 PSI on the Continental Contact 4x4 OEM on my ’08 LX 4WD. Initially I found the ride much harsher than with 30 PSI where ever there were cracks on the road. Toward the end of the trip I must have gotten used to it as it did not bother me as much. It was not as noticeable.

One interesting thing was the MPG display. It indicated around 28 most of the trip with the final number 27.8. The trip was 80% highway driving at 65 MPH with cruise control on. The balance was either highway traffic jams at two toll booths (traditional color peeping Columbus W E) and secondary roads.

I was surprised with the old school mileage check. Using the fill the pump till it clicks before and after and dividing the number of gallons on the pump into the miles driven. Almost told the wife to try to put more in but decided against so as to not spill any on the paint! She bakes great, no fantastic but around cars…

Old school method: 196/5.10=38.5 MPG - I said “NO WAY, increasing the tire pressure 6 PSI cannot have that much of an affect”!

Of course there might be the inaccuracy inherent with not using most of the 15.3 gallon tank as I normally do. My point is that if the MPH display is correct then it should have used more like 7 gallons instead of 5.1 indicated by the pump.

That is gal implied by MPG Display: 196miles / 27.8MPG = 7.05gal

Both times the tank was filled on level ground until the pump clicked off. So the pump might have clicked off at different levels. However since the fuel gauge registered about 2/3 of a tank and not anywhere near 1/2 a tank full (even without taking into account the typical 2 gallon reserve that does not register in Toyota and GM) the actual fuel used might be closer to 5 gallons and not the 7 gallons implied by the MPG display. Yes the fuel gauge method is very inaccurate but as a sanity check it helps.

Or going by fuel gauge - 2/3 of the 15.3 capacity is 5.1 gallons assuming zero reserve built in.

In any event the MPG was somewhere in-between 27.8 and 38 MPG.

WOW! :cool:

What will it do when it is well broken in? :)

-RG

Davecr-v
10-12-2008, 09:37 PM
I have Pirelli P4's four seasons (radar is probably referring to the P 4000's which were kind of cheap) and the shop had no trouble balancing them I get better wet weather traction and better fuel economy than the Duelers and so far have had no issues with wear they also are much quieter I run 28-32 PSI and My V is in alignment.

Radar24
10-13-2008, 04:52 AM
Davecr-v,
I have an odd way remembering details. It definitely was not a Pirelli P-4000. It only had one digit after the P; 4 was the first that came to mind. It might have been the early '90's model P4 or P'whatever'. The tires looked to be good quality and of segmented construction. Yet they must have screwed up in the ply layup, resulting in hard to balance tires. It was about $10 less than the Michelins so my sister went with the Pirellis. I personally would not have.

-RG

electric V
10-13-2008, 05:54 PM
Michelin also makes great wiper blades. They are completly rubber and they hug the windsheild like a teenage couple. They have shown no wear in the CA heat and cold.

Just wanted to add this while we were discussing Michelin tires superiority.

pps309
10-13-2008, 06:36 PM
Mine is Bridgestone

Radar24
10-15-2008, 10:07 PM
electric V,
Where are they sold or is this some kind of joke I missed?

I though silicone rubber (?) was the best material for blades.

-RG

KevinH
10-22-2008, 11:54 AM
[QUOTE=Radar24;Doesn’t the TPWS light go on outside the range of 25-35PSI? I thought I read that in the ’07-‘08 shop manual ? :confused:QUOTE]

Yes it sure does. Everyday during my 35 mile commute. Usually it resets itself with in the next Key on and drive. We've also had it on for the entire trip before it resets. No pattern to speak of but we are both so use to seeing the light on we ignore it.

Thanks for the info on the range I was wonder what value they had picked.

Andreas
10-22-2008, 12:06 PM
Mine is Bridgestone Dueler A/T 693

Radar24
10-22-2008, 01:15 PM
Yes it sure does. Everyday during my 35 mile commute. Usually it resets itself with in the next Key on and drive. We've also had it on for the entire trip before it resets. No pattern to speak of but we are both so use to seeing the light on we ignore it.

Thanks for the info on the range I was wonder what value they had picked.

KevinH,
I don't think the TPMS literally resets itself. When you starts it in the AM being cold the tires are normally at the lowest pressure. So it is off. While driving the pressure increases as the tires warm up and the high set threshold is reached. So the light goes on.

That is most likely what is going on. Now that you are used to an orange light going on and off, should any other orange warning light go on it will most likely be ignored. Not a good thing if the warning is not trivial! :eek:

In any event it's a pain.
-RG

i-vtec
12-01-2008, 04:06 AM
ours came with 17" 225/65 bridgestone duellers with alloy wheels

CRV-NJ
12-15-2008, 04:07 PM
I Have BF Goodrich Traction TA'S.

01CRVtechturbo
12-15-2008, 09:44 PM
I have an 01 with yokohama avid h4's 225/60/r16 they are not good in the snow. Im looking at the dunlop sp winter sport m3... in anycase I have to get something better than these yok's... they are good in the rain and summer but terrible in the snow!

Radar24
12-16-2008, 01:16 AM
I have never heard of those. Are they winter only or all-season?

There are those that have dedicated winter only tires recommended by TireRack and others. So I thought I might mention that if you are getting another set of winter tires.
If you are looking for winter only use, there are a few recommended by other CR-V OC members. Sorry but I cannot comment on them having no familiarity. Do a search on the OC or:

Check the overwhelming number of tires in just the following categories:
Winter, All-Season passenger, All-Season touring and Grand Touring All-Season.

If you call they can recommend those that best suit your needs. I have never bought any tires thru the TireRack but it is a good site for making comparisons.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?sortValue=1&filterType=all&resultsNumberSelected=Y&displayResults=10&compare=true&compareList=&RunFlat=All&goWhere=%252Ftires%252FCompare1.jsp&sortCode=&width=225%2F&ratio=60&diameter=16&performance=GTAS&performance=ST&performance=AS&performance=W&startIndex=0 (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?sortValue=1&filterType=all&resultsNumberSelected=Y&displayResults=10&compare=true&compareList=&RunFlat=All&goWhere=%252Ftires%252FCompare1.jsp&sortCode=&width=225%2F&ratio=60&diameter=16&performance=GTAS&performance=ST&performance=AS&performance=W&startIndex=0)

The only one I am familiar with that has great winter traction and is decent all around is not in the above list. It has an 80k mile warranty.
It is the Michelin Harmony and its warehouse twin the Michelin X.
Costco generally has $60 off coupon on a set of four making it very competitive with other probably not so great tires.

All I know is when I replaced the sucky winter performing but good in the summer Goodyear Eagle Ga with the Michelin X the winter traction was like night and day. With a 2WD S-10 I have never got stuck using the ‘X’ in southern NH. Prior to that I was always having trouble going up my hill with the Eagle GA which is more of a performance tire.

Even if you do not have a membership consider:
Extremely competitive pricing plus $60 off might make it cost effective to get the membership anyway.
Tires are filled with Nitrogen
Well trained techs with normally low waiting times
Lug nuts are torque twice as SOP
Lifetime road hazard, rotation, mounting of winter tires and dismounting in spring, interior patch repairs … included in price.

Good Luck and Choose wisely!

-RG

sleeksilver
12-19-2008, 03:49 PM
Listed in my sig...

Are-we-There-Yet?
12-20-2008, 11:28 AM
Hi Guys
My tyres are 225/60 R18 DUNLOP GRANDTREK ST30
of which i am having trouble sourcing for replacments :(

this is on an 07 CRV

Cheers
Richard

Radar24
12-20-2008, 01:00 PM
Hi Guys
My tyres are 225/60 R18 DUNLOP GRANDTREK ST30
of which i am having trouble sourcing for replacments :(

this is on an 07 CRV

Cheers
Richard
Where was the CR-V made? In England? Actually tyres is kind of a giveaway. Somehow us revels in the US corrupted it to Tires. :D

This is the first time I remember reading about OEM Dunlop GrandTrek on a '07.

-RG

bcuinohio
01-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza, 225/65R17 102H.

The problem with the 07 CRV is that the tire selection is limited. Many tires in this size do not have the 102 load index. I don't know how important it is but it narrowed down the field quite a bit. Nothing came up on Costcos websiste for the 07 CRV.

Radar24
01-20-2009, 07:32 PM
Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza, 225/65R17 102H.
The problem with the 07 CRV is that the tire selection is limited. Many tires in this size do not have the 102 load index. I don't know how important it is but it narrowed down the field quite a bit. Nothing came up on Costcos websiste for the 07 CRV.
You have a 102H? The OM specs 102T.

You can go to the next higher load rating. Costco does not like to do it but since they do not offer the correct size if you insist they will make you sign a paper to release them of liability.

A 103T or 104T will we OK as long as it there are no clearance problems. The drawback of doing so is that the VSA might not work as well if the radius or diameter and width is drastically different. It is as OEM programmed to work with the 225/65/17 102T. The T is the min speed rating and should not change the VSA response as a first order effect.

U, H, V, Z, W or Y in order of speed ratings will also work. Only the H and V are practical price wise but considerably more expensive than T. The Z, W and Y are way overkill. The later two I have never seen. Possibly in a Ferrari, Porsche or some similarly such impractical beast.

I played around with the different sizes. 235/60/17 for instance is very close in actual size. However I think it was a lower load rating number and higher speed rating.

For now to not upset the VSA and still have the required load rating , I believe we are SOL. I am hoping that by the time my Contac 4x4s are worn, Michelin will be making some 225/65/17 in a 102T or higher speed rating. As the demand increase (right now there are only three model years '07 -'09) they just might start making them. I hope so!

-RG

Bren08CRV
01-20-2009, 08:25 PM
Mine came with Continentals

bcuinohio
01-20-2009, 10:22 PM
You have a 102H? The OM specs 102T.

You can go to the next higher load rating. Costco does not like to do it but since they do not offer the correct size if you insist they will make you sign a paper to release them of liability.

A 103T or 104T will we OK as long as it there are no clearance problems. The drawback of doing so is that the VSA might not work as well if the radius or diameter and width is drastically different. It is as OEM programmed to work with the 225/65/17 102T. The T is the min speed rating and should not change the VSA response as a first order effect.

U, H, V, Z, W or Y in order of speed ratings will also work. Only the H and V are practical price wise but considerably more expensive than T. The Z, W and Y are way overkill. The later two I have never seen. Possibly in a Ferrari, Porsche or some similarly such impractical beast.

I played around with the different sizes. 235/60/17 for instance is very close in actual size. However I think it was a lower load rating number and higher speed rating.

For now to not upset the VSA and still have the required load rating , I believe we are SOL. I am hoping that by the time my Contac 4x4s are worn, Michelin will be making some 225/65/17 in a 102T or higher speed rating. As the demand increase (right now there are only three model years '07 -'09) they just might start making them. I hope so!

-RG


The Alenza does have a H speed rating but the so does the Triple Tread. It has a very high rating on TireRack. The tires were $150 each installed. I have no problem using a H rating even though the T is OEM spec. It is only one step up. It had higher ratings in the snow than any of the T rated tires. The Alenza has a 65k mile warranty. The hard part was that many of the tires in TireRack had load ratings of 100 or 101.

I think that Michelin does make a tire that is a 225/65R17 102T. It is the Latitude. It is pretty expensive though.

http://www.michelinman.com/tires/suv-crossover/latitude-tour/13774/#sizes-and-specifications

Radar24
01-21-2009, 03:01 AM
The Alenza does have a H speed rating but the so does the Triple Tread. It has a very high rating on TireRack. The tires were $150 each installed. I have no problem using a H rating even though the T is OEM spec. It is only one step up. It had higher ratings in the snow than any of the T rated tires. The Alenza has a 65k mile warranty. The hard part was that many of the tires in TireRack had load ratings of 100 or 101.I think that Michelin does make a tire that is a 225/65R17 102T. It is the Latitude. It is pretty expensive though.
I see. This must be relatively new. I called Michelin 1-800 a month ago or so and they told me nothing in 225/65/17 102 with any speed rating.

From the description or lack off it does not sound like one of their better snow/ice tires. It is more of a wet condition tire so it is hard to tell how well it would perform in winter.

If you look at the Michelin SUV/CROSSOVER tire GRID it is the least sporty (possibly due to the T rating) and in the middle of the pack for off- road/on-road scale axis.

If you look on the choose BY VEHICLE no '07 and up is a choice for the year; it is not shown. Nothing available is seems to indicates the web site is not up to date yet too include the new tire.

As a matter of fact ditto for the Tire Rack when I looked.

I suspected this would eventually happen. All we need now is a more Snow/Ice specific model without being winter only so it can be used year round. Like the All-Season Harmony and the 'X' (it's warehouse equivalent). That is a pretty good All Season Snow /Ice tire model from personal experience. Without having experience with the other models that would be my preference. Unfortunately no 17" tires are available in that model to date.

-RG

B20Z4MePlz
01-25-2009, 05:17 PM
hankook tires. Absolutely good tires :D

Serj22
01-27-2009, 06:48 PM
Delfinity's on an 02 Crv.

Backroad
01-28-2009, 09:58 AM
2009 EX AWD - Continental 4x4 Contacts.j Continental isn't my favorite tire company, but they'll do till I have to replace them.

Radar24
01-28-2009, 10:50 AM
2009 EX AWD - Continental 4x4 Contacts.j Continental isn't my favorite tire company, but they'll do till I have to replace them.
That is what I have. I have never had them before but so far no complaints. Very smooth and vibration free.
So what don't you like about them?

-Rg

Serj22
01-28-2009, 08:18 PM
They're probably too ...rubbery... i don't know. He may just like high P. tires.

Radar24
01-29-2009, 01:33 AM
They're probably too ...rubbery... i don't know. He may just like high P. tires.
I'm curious, let 'Backroad' answer that.

Wait a minute, 'Backroad'! UMMM! The Conti Contact 4x4 are not off road tires. It is more of a medium of the road all-season that just happens to handle a lot better on the road than an off road tire.

A good compromise IMO for road use. I though the winter traction was very good too so far. Last time I drove in the snow.

-Rg

electric V
01-29-2009, 01:28 PM
I have BF Goodrich Premier Touring tires. They are an excellent all weather wheel supposedly even in the snow. But I have never tested it in the snow; it only snows in the valley on extreeme conditions and i wont drive up to the mountians to test it but they are M&S rated.

they are extreemly quiet on the freeway and give me some decent traction in the mud.

size 205/75/R15 on my 98 V

alleyrunner
02-09-2009, 03:12 PM
Hi, guys, alleyrunner here; interesting tire discussion.
2005 LX, OEM Dunlops lasted just under 40k, good tires until tread got down.

Now running Nokians, on recommendation of local tar dealer. Very good holding road, OR S. Coast (lots of rain... or not); about 24k on them so far. Tread still looks good.

Never will knowingly buy Bridgestones again; threeeee (count 'em) failures while driving.

alleyrunner
02-16-2009, 01:48 AM
I have seen many posts re changing tire size on CR-V. Tar dealer told me that making large changes could affect the vehicle stability system.

I have not seen that mentioned in any of the posts I have reviewed.

Radar24
02-16-2009, 09:26 AM
I have seen many posts re changing tire size on CR-V. Tar dealer told me that making large changes could affect the vehicle stability system. I have not seen that mentioned in any of the posts I have reviewed.
Absolutely.

The VSA works by modifying the throttle and applying the appropriate wheel's brake via the Stability/Traction/ABS module in response to input from the 'stability' sensors. The response is tuned to the characteristics of the 225/65/17 102T tire (r = 14.25) on a factory spec width/offset rim. If a different tire is used where the characteristics are substantially different like a 255/55/16 103T (r = 13.5) on a rim with different offset, the programmed control loop response of the VSA to instability may over or under compensate. Affecting the performance of the VSA or possibly even rendering it ineffective.

I would think not in a dangerous fashion but I suppose anything is possible as you deviate sufficiently from the norm. .

Only a Honda engineer would be able to tell the affect; I would not mess with it.

I actually considered it in order to lower my V and came to the conclusion it was not a good idea. Not for normal everyday use. Not with my wife driving :D.

-Rg

(edit: added rim width/offset spec as probably affecting VSA over or under correction)

domake
02-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Factory rims, Kelly Navigator Gold and it's good

ArtemNY
02-17-2009, 06:48 PM
In years i've been using different tires and belive that Michelin is the BEST brand. But on my V now using the tires from the dealer. Don't even know what brand :)

SniperD
02-18-2009, 03:36 PM
I almost went off the road (in a bad way) in the snow a few times with the OEMs, and I've got AWD. I got Goodyear Fortera Triple Tred with my OEMs at 20k and they drive better on dry, wet, and snow. Sam's club had the best deal and the goodyears are ranked very high on tirerack. So far so good!

timtim
02-21-2009, 12:42 PM
OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/T 684's wore out at 45K. I tried Kelley Navigator Gold, but didn't like their snow performance. Just put on Micheline Harmony's from Tirerack.com.

Radar24
02-22-2009, 04:45 AM
How do you like the Harmony in snow and ice?

And what year V? As far as I know Michelin has only one tire that fits the '07 and up, 225/65/17.

-Rg

Badgerland
02-22-2009, 09:01 AM
How do you like the Harmony in snow and ice?

And what year V? As far as I know Michelin has only one tire that fits the '07 and up, 225/65/17.

-Rg

I have Cooper CS4's as the replacements for the OEM Bridgestones on our 07. They now have 25k on them and are running great.

Radar24
02-22-2009, 10:44 AM
I have Cooper CS4's as the replacements for the OEM Bridgestones on our 07. They now have 25k on them and are running great.
Personally I would not even consider Cooper. You and a few other may swear by the CS4's. It is just that the Cooper's recall record (going by memory) is not the greatest. Their tires or those made by Cooper under other brand names have a frequently recurring recall history.

At any price!

-Rg

Badgerland
02-22-2009, 02:15 PM
RG, people's opinion on tires, oil even cars is so varied that it's all personal preference. What one person says is good another says is trash. I was responding to the post that someone didn't know tires were available except for a certain brand...:rolleyes:

Radar24
02-22-2009, 10:51 PM
I realize the problem with opinions based on it feels, it looks but preferences have nothing to with recall history. Most drivers do not pay attention to it. I am of the opinion that perhaps they should. I do. It is easy to look up. Some say that is hog wash. That would be fine by me if I did not have to drive on the same roads with them.

http://www.dmv.org/recalls.php

I cannot find a list of total recalls by manufacture on line I was referring to. This is measurable and tangible. Recalls are not opinions. Frequent recalls are a measure and indication of poor design, quality controls or both. A manufacture with fewer or no recalls consistently puts out a safer product.

On a sample of one preferences, like and dislike does not mean much. Now if 19 out of 20 like it or dislike it, now we have a trend. My opinions included as well as yours. :)

Now if a manufacturer is often recalled, I would think that would not be a good consistently safe brand to buy from. That was my point. I am not about to dispute anyones likes or dislikes with tires.

-Rg

Serj22
02-23-2009, 11:28 AM
Speaking of recalls (http://blogs.automotive.com/6304790/opinion/top-ten-worst-car-recalls/index.html)

I don't like the sound of a recalled anything.... especially on tires... or a cruise control switch that spontaneously combusts...

electric V
02-23-2009, 12:38 PM
[QUOTE=Serj22;37646I don't like the sound of a recalled anything.... cruise control switch that spontaneously combusts...[/QUOTE]

Just when you think you heard it all Ford had this happen probably poor engineering and wireing you'd never see me do this. but alas ford wont higher me to be one of their engineers. :(

Serj22
02-23-2009, 02:35 PM
If I was hired by Ford, I'd beome the CEO and then sell them to someone who doesn't make combustible switchs and have them fix it.

electric V
02-23-2009, 04:15 PM
You mean Mazda? I didn't see their name on their

Lower rolling resistance tires. Does that mean less traction iin rain and snow?

timtim
02-26-2009, 11:07 PM
How do you like the Harmony in snow and ice?

And what year V? As far as I know Michelin has only one tire that fits the '07 and up, 225/65/17.

-Rg

They grabbed really well on 20 miles of packed snow so far, during last storm. No ice yet. More noticable was how quiet they have been on dry pavement. my '02 has the OEM 205/70/15's .

Radar24
02-27-2009, 12:09 AM
That is why I asked, I think there is one tire model made by Michelin in 225/65/17 102T.

It is the 'Latitude Tour' which is their comfort ride. I suspect it will wide very nice but may not be the best tire in the snow and ice.

For those of you waiting for a Michelin that fits the '07+, here it its:

http://www.michelinman.com/action/tires/find-by-vehicle/?make=Honda&model=CR-V+LX%2FEX%2FEX-L&year=2008&option=Standard

-Rg

bwwoodard
02-28-2009, 02:11 PM
I'm looking to replace the OEM tires on my '07 soon. I keep coming back to the Cooper CS4 when I consider all tires that are avaialble in the OEM specs of 225 65 17, with the 102 rating. I haven't found any negative feedback on this tire yet, and it has received high praise.

Cooper is going to run another rebate program soon. I wanted to share the rebate info for those who are also considering the CS4 in the near future.

http://www.coopertire.com/Flash/index.aspx

Other than the recall on one size of the CS4 line, has anyone heard of any negative feedback on the CS4?

Thanks,
BW

I have Cooper CS4's as the replacements for the OEM Bridgestones on our 07. They now have 25k on them and are running great.

Backroad
04-07-2009, 11:00 AM
2009 EX AWD - Continentals 4xr Contacts.

I think the use of all the different brands is just dependent on who gives the better contract price to Honda. Other than that, they (and any other car mfgr) probably don't give a damn what kind of tires they put on their vehicles.

al

spotpup
04-07-2009, 11:58 AM
08-EXL. Bridgestone Duelers. 24K and shot. Very even wear, and they are below the wear bars Just made an appointment to put BFG Longtrail T/A Tour on. I'll let you know how they wear and handle.

wgraycat
04-09-2009, 04:37 PM
Just updated my 03 CR-V orginal tire 15", havd installed 16" 215/60/16, this keeps the orginal profile same as the 15" 2ith 205/70/15, now just experimenting with tire pressure, have it set to 33 all aroind for now.
The tires are Nexen n5000 sacchi rims

srizvi1
06-02-2009, 01:46 PM
Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza, 225/65R17 102H.

The problem with the 07 CRV is that the tire selection is limited. Many tires in this size do not have the 102 load index. I don't know how important it is but it narrowed down the field quite a bit. Nothing came up on Costcos websiste for the 07 CRV.

Just purchased these today. How do you like them so far? Like you, I went w/ these because of the limited availability of what I could put on our '07 CRV AWD.

We had one of our OEM Continental tires go flat this morning and rather than patch just one tire (if possible), we decided to replace all 4 since our 2007 CR-V AWD was close to 57,650 miles w/ these tires and pretty worn out (w/ Penny test, could even see the "In God We Trust" pretty clearly).

I got our Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza 225/65R17 tires from the Firestone in Columbia, MD. I could have ordered from online, but really wanted to get this done w/ today and felt ordering wouldn't be that much better if I could pull of a price match.

I checked out the <a href="http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=y&commentSta tus=P&tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+H%2FL+ Alenza&partnum=265HR7HLALNZ&vehicleSearch=true&fro mCompare1=yes&place=7">tire rack reviews for this tire</a> and they seemed pretty positive. Wal-mart had 4 of the other Duelers (the Bridgestone Dueler H/T), but they were reviewed pretty badly.

So, Firestone had these tires at $154 a tire and matched tirerack.com's $144 price (kind of tricky to do because they usually adjust for shipping, but they let me go). All 4 tires w/ the random fees + tax came out to $617.96.

I then took them to walmart to mount/balance for $50 even to have the lifetime rotation and balance.

I'm curious to know if any of the cheaper, $100ish tires that come up on tirerack.com for this vehicle are good. I could have saved somewhere around $200 if I was to find tires close to $100 a piece but I just assumed that everything around $150 is what would be good.

That is why I asked, I think there is one tire model made by Michelin in 225/65/17 102T.

It is the 'Latitude Tour' which is their comfort ride. I suspect it will wide very nice but may not be the best tire in the snow and ice.

For those of you waiting for a Michelin that fits the '07+, here it its:

http://www.michelinman.com/action/tires/find-by-vehicle/?make=Honda&model=CR-V+LX%2FEX%2FEX-L&year=2008&option=Standard

-Rg

I wanted to get Michelin tires because of the crazy deals/rebates (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=100363&t=1331105) that could be pulled, but unfortunately Costco had none in stock and needed to order them, and their price was $30 a tire more than what tirerack.com was selling for.


08-EXL. Bridgestone Duelers. 24K and shot. Very even wear, and they are below the wear bars Just made an appointment to put BFG Longtrail T/A Tour on. I'll let you know how they wear and handle.

I'm guessing these were the other H/T duelers that I mentioned earlier.

Radar24
06-03-2009, 02:49 AM
So much for the comments by some that the Continentals tires are no good and trash!

The 57,650 miles life reported by srizvi1 for the Continentals on a '07 cannot possibly be considered poor for an OEM tire. It is more likely the case that poor tire life is due to the type of roads driven on and the toe in settings. In a CR-V 4-wheel independent suspension both the front and rear toe needs to be set at the recommended setting for reduced wear.

srizvi1, since your tire wear is IMO OK, rather than re-align the vehicle as some drivers do when installing new expensive tires, If it were me I might have the alignment checked but not modified as long as it is not pulling to one side and is within the recommended spec range. I doubt that a new alignment setting would give you any added tire life.

An alignment is only as accurate as the machine and the tech's know how. Therefore any new setting might in fact be less accurate in your case giving you less tire life. Just my two cents worth. In my unprofessional mind that would be the thing to do. BTW NTB (National Tire and Battery) used to check alignment for free, and in more than one instance has admitted that my alignment did not need to be done or was close enough. But this was maybe 15 years ago. I do not think I have checked my aligned since then. IMO if the tires are wearing fine and it does not pull then what would you gain by an alignment. As it turns out in my case tires need to be replaced due to tire rot rather than due to wear!

-Rg

srizvi1
06-03-2009, 05:13 AM
So much for the comments by some that the Continentals tires are no good and trash!

The 57,650 miles life reported by srizvi1 for the Continentals on a '07 cannot possibly be considered poor for an OEM tire. It is more likely the case that poor tire life is due to the type of roads driven on and the toe in settings. In a CR-V 4-wheel independent suspension both the front and rear toe needs to be set at the recommended setting for reduced wear.

srizvi1, since your tire wear is IMO OK, rather than re-align the vehicle as some drivers do when installing new expensive tires, If it were me I might have the alignment checked but not modified as long as it is not pulling to one side and is within the recommended spec range. I doubt that a new alignment setting would give you any added tire life.

An alignment is only as accurate as the machine and the tech's know how. Therefore any new setting might in fact be less accurate in your case giving you less tire life. Just my two cents worth. In my unprofessional mind that would be the thing to do. BTW NTB (National Tire and Battery) used to check alignment for free, and in more than one instance has admitted that my alignment did not need to be done or was close enough. But this was maybe 15 years ago. I do not think I have checked my aligned since then. IMO if the tires are wearing fine and it does not pull then what would you gain by an alignment. As it turns out in my case tires need to be replaced due to tire rot rather than due to wear!

-Rg

rg, It is worth mentioning that my tires were pretty much bald when I replaced them so I'm not sure what its real lifespan was. I want to say in the 40s is when the tires got bad. I wouldn't really complain about these tires, but I don't really know much about them. I go based on reviews, that's it.

Also, with the alignment, I usually get Firestone's lifetime alignment w/ my cars and will probably do it here. As a Gold rewards member for Firestone (something I was randomly enrolled in for free), Alignment checks were complimentary and in the few times I had the alignment looked at for this car, nothing was said

Radar24
06-03-2009, 03:58 PM
rg, It is worth mentioning that my tires were pretty much bald when I replaced them so I'm not sure what its real lifespan was. I want to say in the 40s is when the tires got bad. I wouldn't really complain about these tires, but I don't really know much about them. I go based on reviews, that's it.
Well, that is not as good but in the 40ks is not that bad for that kind of tire.

My intent was to indicate to those that wrote that tire was crap because it only lasted 12k or 24k miles or what ever they considered not good. A tire that has a wear rating of 300 or 320 I think. I tried to point out that if the tire got unacceptable wear it was likely not due to the tire but other factors. Such as alignment or other suspension problems etc.

Technically a tire has about 2/32" or 4/64th of thread remaining at the most worn point when completely worn. At least that is what it is here in NH before the state inspection forces you to replace the tire. New it has 9.5/64 of thread I think. So if you wore the tire completely to 0/64" at 57.65k miles. The total 'legal' thread life is ( 9.5 - 2 ) / 64 = 7.5/64th of an inch.

So the 'legal' life is then: 7.5 / 9.5 times 57,650 = 45,513 miles more or less. About 6k miles for every 1/64th of an inch.

My Contact 4x4 tires with slightly over 5k miles should not be worn over 1/64" to get the same wear as srizvi1 or about 45,000 miles. I shall check them when I rotate them at about 6k miles.

That is nothing to complain about in my book for a vehicle with 4WD independent suspension. IMO anything over 35k - 40k miles would be more than acceptable for a tire more toward the performance end of the scale than the 'long wear' end.

What was the typical pressure that you set the tires too?

-Rg

srizvi1
06-03-2009, 06:43 PM
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What was the typical pressure that you set the tires too?

-Rg

It was my dad's car so I'm not 100% sure about that. When the air gets low, the warning thing goes on right? I don't think we ever dealt w/ that.

Radar24
06-04-2009, 02:02 AM
As I mentioned before that would be anything over 24 PSI.

-Rg

Psyman42
06-28-2009, 08:15 AM
So last week I replaced the OEM Bridgestone Duellers @ 31,762 miles (tires were just at Lincoln's head with penny test) with the Cooper CS4s and the ride is noticeably smoother and comfortable. I feel the bumbs in the road less now. Definately recommend these tires

My options before the replacements were:

BJs - Michelin Latitudes $190 + $15 (lifetime rotation and repair) + tax for each tire

Pep Boys - Cooper CS4 $143 + service + tax
or
Hankook RH07 $127 + service + tax

I chose the Coopers because alot of people on this forum have these tires and recommend it, I would say about 12 people have them and posted positive comments on these. The only negative comment I've read is the recalls on specific tires, not the CS4s. Also the MIchelins are just too pricey for me, maybe if my V was a Lexus ;) While the Hankooks I couldnt find any info on. And Pep Boys having the buy 3 get 1 free deal sealed the deal for me, Bjs only had a $70 Michlin rebate.

Total came out to $831 which includes a $70 alignment that I had to get cuz mechanic said my tires had more wear on the inside than outside. Otherwise total would've been $755.

But the thing with Pep Boys that disturbed me is that they tacked on ALOT of "Hidden Fees". Sure they gave me the out the door price right away, but they didnt explain what they were charging. After I got my receipt, it showed charges:
-road hazzard warranty (tire repair and Lifetime rotation) - $9 each tire
-TPMS install - $8 each tire
-Mounting tire - $14 each tire
-Disposal fee - $2.50 each tire
Initially I thought the Bjs would've been a better deal but after doing the math, Bjs would've cost me at least or in the ball park of $820 after tax and rebate and depending if they charge TPMS install and NO ALIGNMENT. While Pep Boys cost me $690 with alignment.

plaiNsimple
07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
I have a 97 CRV on Michelin X-Radials.. The fronts are worn on the inner side, that's why i'm shopping for tire replacements now.. I'll probably get another Michelin.. How's X-Radial different from Destiny? Coz im opting for Destiny, they're a bit cheaper than the Hydro-Edge.. I live in Toronto area, lotsa snow in winter.. Any suggestions or comments?

Radar24
07-07-2009, 12:40 AM
My understanding from reading the Michelin literature before they removed detailed info from the online data base is that the X and X - Plus are one of the best 'All-Season' tires on snow and ice made by Michelin. The current literature sort of indicates this but not as specifically. On a scale of 1 to 10 is how it used to be rated by Michelin, ten being the best. At that time the X-Plus was rated at 9. I am not certain but the Destiny is probably a 7 and the Hydro-Edge is maybe a 5-6 being more rain oriented. It is hard to tell as those ratings do not exist anymore. Currently only a vague description is given as to the intended use.

In practice, I found the X-Plus to be an excellent tire in ice and snow. I have a set on my RWD S-10. I have always been able to go up my plowed hill in 4"-6" of snow without barely loosing traction. The original tires sucked always spinning and fishtailing. The originals I think where Goodyear Eagle GA. On the same scale I would probably have rated them a 2 in Ice and a 3 in snow.

-Rg

73stallion
07-19-2009, 10:18 AM
i just put the destiny on mine the other day. it's a real nice riding tire with plenty of siping, and a good mileage rating (i'll be driving the hell out of mine so i needed something that'll last). can't say much about snow as so cal has about one of the driest climates. don't expect to have any rain to test them in any time soon either.

beige2007
07-19-2009, 11:37 AM
just put on four BFGoodrich Long Trail T/A Tour Highway/All-Season tires. so far it's been a much more quiet ride compared to the stock bridgestones. looking forward to taking it to Wrightwood and Big Bear for some SoCal snow. but for now it'll be driven around town during the week, taken it to vegas a few times....might go up to frisco in a couple weeks or so.

GOOD: plenty of deep center grooves and full depth sipes give you exellent traction....makes for a quiet ride because of the continuous tread pattern.

BAD: plenty of deep center grooves that follow grooves parallel to the roadway....tends to pull a bit on your steering wheel, but not enough to be alarming.

$130 per tire at your local Costco.:)