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Old 02-17-2008, 06:31 PM
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I would have to disagree
K&N would boost power (if you are using intake kit, not replacement filter). Granted it will not happen at 2000 rpm, but that is not really the point of installing one. But one you are over 4000 (according to dyno results they are presenting on their web page) you will see gain 15 to 20 hp.
And for around $200 it is probably the cheapest way to modestly increase hp.
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:36 PM
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I would have to disagree
K&N would boost power (if you are using intake kit, not replacement filter). Granted it will not happen at 2000 rpm, but that is not really the point of installing one. But one you are over 4000 (according to dyno results they are presenting on their web page) you will see gain 15 to 20 hp.
And for around $200 it is probably the cheapest way to modestly increase hp.
The word "throttle" means to restrict. You just won't get any gains unless at full throttle.
If using a K&N meant that Honda would gain 15-20, they would do it. Since it doesn't, they don't, nor does any other new car manufacturer.
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:51 PM
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I would have to disagree
K&N would boost power (if you are using intake kit, not replacement filter). Granted it will not happen at 2000 rpm, but that is not really the point of installing one. But one you are over 4000 (according to dyno results they are presenting on their web page) you will see gain 15 to 20 hp.
And for around $200 it is probably the cheapest way to modestly increase hp.
This one has really been beat hard and put up bloody. A forum search (K&N filters) will bring up several threads on the subject. If you really don't believe the forum members, included in one of them you will find: ISO 5011 Duramax Air Filter Test Report
previously referenced by 2RedV's. It is as independent a test as you can get and very complete too.
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Old 02-17-2008, 07:57 PM
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The test shown was only for quality of filtering. And yes, it clearly shows that OEM filter beat a crap out of aftermarket. There is nothing though about gains or loses i motor hp. I am far from claiming that K&N invented a silver bullet.
They are claiming to give your money back if you will not get hp gain.
And what they are doing seems logical. Inserting a high-flow air induction system (not just replacement for your stock filter) next to low resistance exhaust is one of the first things done to improve performance (e.g. cutting catalytic converter out - which could get you to jail).
By the way - I can not verify this claims simply because never have one installed on my car. I am also not in any way associated with them.
If somebody on the forum have them on any car (they do not make them for CRV) I would love to find their experience.
And while we are on the topic - there is also some claims, I found unsubstantiated, that using higher octane gas gives you better performance and mileage - does anybody have a comment on this. In all my cars I am using regular (87 octane) and so far so good.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:47 PM
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There is nothing though about gains or loses i motor hp.

If somebody on the forum have them on any car (they do not make them for CRV) I would love to find their experience.

And while we are on the topic - there is also some claims, I found unsubstantiated, that using higher octane gas gives you better performance and mileage - does anybody have a comment on this. In all my cars I am using regular (87 octane) and so far so good.
As to HP gains: You need to read the test summary and comments at the end of the test report.

Regarding forum member experience: Take a look at: My K-n-N drop in filter "results"

As to higher octane fuel yielding better performance: A higher octane rating refers only to the fuel's resistance to detonation (ping). In older cars, one could advance the timing and perhaps take advantage of higher octane fuel. It doesn't do anything at all for most of us.

For the record, we just want to be sure that you have, at least, been made aware of the unadvertised side of the story. This particular subject has deteriorated into arguments before and that's not what this forum is about. If K&N decides to develop a "system" for Gen 3 Vs and you put one on yours, let us know how it works for you. You can add to our database.

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