The tires that were the alternative to the CS4's now have 15k on them. Third rotation today. The shop spun them and didn't change any weights. The road noise is about the same as the Continentals but the handling is better. Just because they're not as soft I think, so they feel more sure footed. I run them at 34psi. We drive the CRV over a pass to town about three times a week so it's all turns and brakes. And this winter had quite a few snow days and they felt like an all season tire. They never got lumpy or frozen feeling. So far so good... We'll see how the hot weather makes them feel next.