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I won't compromise on AWD and complete service records. Given that, should I search for older vehicles with fewer miles, or newer vehicles with more miles? I've read a lot about engine problems on the '17 and '18 so I won't look newer than '16.

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Where are you - I have never needed AWD - Have had 2WD Hondas since 1974 and have never been stuck moving. Do own FWD tire chains. AWD only helps you get moving - It does zip to stop you.
My daughter goes to college in the NC mountains where the hills are significant. More importantly, this will primarily be my wife's car and she wants AWD; therefore, I want AWD. We are not in an area where anyone uses chains.
 

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After six months of hard research, I crossed off anything newer than a 2009 model. In 2010 issues started showing up with things like recalls to replace piston rings due to high oil consumption and other issues I consider high risk, and Gen4s only add to the list. IMO the added tech gimmickry only adds to the problems and expense of ownership. In the end I wound up with an '07 with 92k, and couldn't be happier, although I really wanted a manual transmission but was unable to find an '05 or '06 manual in good enough condition. I think I will have fewer issues and a lower total cost of ownership with my '07 than I would have with a Gen4. But if I was limited to one, I wouldn't go newer than a '14, as issues went up exponentially after that year. Also, I will never own anything with a CVT. They are junk IMO. More expensive to repair and less reliable. I already see other carmakers reverting to multi-speed automatics from the CVT. Just my opinion, but I did a lot of research. A lot. No, really.

Beyond all that, common sense is king when choosing a used car. Buy only from an individual, never a dealer. Look for appearance and condition, mileage and records, and an honest seller.
Thanks! I'm not predisposed to dislike a CVT since my Prius was trouble free for 16 years. That said, it's unlikely to play a big part of my decision process one way or the other. For better or worse, syncing a phone via bluetooth is non-negotiable, second in importance to a working steering wheel. If it raises my TCO then that's the price I'll have to pay.

I'm having a hard time finding a private seller! There are tons of cars available by dealers or carmax but very few from individuals - it is *very* frustrating. I won't do home-delivery. My local dealer "gives" free synthetic oil changes and state inspections for life. On new cars they give a lifetime warranty (I think no deductible) on the engine if they do the changes. They tried to fix my Ody's sliding door and when they failed they didn't charge me the diagnostic fee or anything for the labor after signing the work order where I said that I was on the hook for at least the diag fee. They might get my biz just for that.
 
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