[CRV_N00B]

Hi Guys, new guy here. My name is Tyler, live up in New York. I have been around cars for years...typically a GM guy (I know that's taboo to admit when around Japanese car loyalists), but my future wife has a '17 CRV and I have a few questions on some maintenance stuff:

1. Do you guys have any recommendations on tires? We picked her up a set of winter tires on separate rims, so these would only be subjected to rain aside from dry climate. We will likely be doing a decent amount of highway driving with the car (her parents live a few states away, and her part time job is about a one hour commute one way). Was wondering if they made a tire like a "fuel max" for the CRV. I had them on my Cruze and they were overall quite good...I got 65K miles out of them, seemed to do well with gas mileage, and were....meh in the rain.

2. Do you have any recommendations for where to get a few of those copper washers for the drain plug? The local car parts store does not have them except in a pack of 3 and two of them don't fit. I have read a bit about the valves some people use, but I am a bit timid that the valve could fail and I'd be out a motor.

3. I have heard the horror stories about the gas in the oil (great start for me to get acquainted with Honda cars). She received the letter in the mail about the software update...I have heard some reviews of nothing changing, others saying the gas mileage went down...any input on that would be nice. It sounds like Honda is basically saying if you don't do it you're basically neglecting the vehicle.

4. I have heard of the direct injection woes of the intake valves getting gummed up. Do you have any recommendations on that? I put some seafoam in the top end once around 30K miles, but am interested to hear what the CRV community recommends on this.

5. Does anyone have a list for the maintenance cycle on these cars? Seems like they want the fluids changed very regularly. Was hoping to see a list of everything up front so I know what I am getting myself into. It doesn't seem like that is the case, but do these cars have a timing belt or a timing chain? Maintenance on that required?

Thanks in advance.
-Tyler

 

[sirwired]

2). They are aluminum, and you can get a baggie of generic ones from Amazon for a few bucks.

4). No, that's not really a known issue with these engines.

5).
Oil. 5-10k-ish , depending on driving pattern
Rear diff. 15k for the first, 30k after
Brake. 2-3 years.
CVT? Nobody's hit that code yet... Probably 50k-ish
Timing chain
Spark plugs? Certainly nobody's hit that one.

 

[jbeachy]

4. All direct injection engines have the characteristic that the intake valves aren't "washed" by incoming fuel, but are subjected to crankcase recirculation. Thus all engines are prone to intake valve buildup eventually. I've seen videos that say you should do an intake system cleaning procedure every 30,000 miles, and one video suggested every 10,000 miles. I have less than 7,000 on mine so I'm still thinking about this.

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[fishycomics]

1 you got tires on her. they work.

2 washers at the parts department or on line ordering

3 and 4 OD that is life

5 look at the head unit and its right there or here as a stickie pdf file

 

[BobInPa]

There is a lot of useful information here:
https://owners.honda.com/vehicle-information/manuals?year=2017&model=CR-V

 

[sirwired]

4. All direct injection engines have the characteristic that the intake valves aren't "washed" by incoming fuel, but are subjected to crankcase recirculation. Thus all engines are prone to intake valve buildup eventually. I've seen videos that say you should do an intake system cleaning procedure every 30,000 miles, and one video suggested every 10,000 miles. I have less than 7,000 on mine so I'm still thinking about this.

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Honda's other DI engines (the ones with the EarthDreams moniker) have not required frequent valve cleaning. Somebody insisting you have to clean the valves essentially with every oil change is one that's trying to sell you valve cleaning stuff.

 

[billyrule]

Where is the Emergency Brake? - only find the Electric Parking Brake

 

[Spectreniner]

4. All direct injection engines have the characteristic that the intake valves aren't "washed" by incoming fuel, but are subjected to crankcase recirculation. Thus all engines are prone to intake valve buildup eventually. I've seen videos that say you should do an intake system cleaning procedure every 30,000 miles, and one video suggested every 10,000 miles. I have less than 7,000 on mine so I'm still thinking about this.

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This. Although on the Ford Fusion/BMW forums, some guys are having the walnut spray procedure done as soon as 20-30k miles because they're getting gunked up. Other guys have shown pics of 75-100k miles and not bad so it's really a crapshoot unfortunately.

 

[UMRdyldo]

This. Although on the Ford Fusion/BMW forums, some guys are having the walnut spray procedure done as soon as 20-30k miles because they're getting gunked up. Other guys have shown pics of 75-100k miles and not bad so it's really a crapshoot unfortunately.

It's a factor of too many issues:

Driving style, oil type, oil change interval, etc.

 

[UMRdyldo]

Honda's other DI engines (the ones with the EarthDreams moniker) have not required frequent valve cleaning. Somebody insisting you have to clean the valves essentially with every oil change is one that's trying to sell you valve cleaning stuff.

The valve cleaning sprays are not worth it at all. Generally they don't soak long enough to dislodge

Cleaning the valves frequently can have a nasty side effect. You can't dislodge the build up and let it fall into the engine. It's rock hard and can land between the ring and cylinder wall. Thus lower compression if you clean the valves too often. The valves need to be closed when cleaning which is not possible to know with a spray cleaner.

 

[sirwired]

Where is the Emergency Brake? - only find the Electric Parking Brake

If you hold the p-brake switch in the "engage" position, it will use the ABS Pump to bring you to a complete stop. (So if you have a master cyl. or brake-booster failure, you'll still be able to bring the car to a halt.)

 

[mnestrud]

4. I have heard of the direct injection woes of the intake valves getting gummed up. Do you have any recommendations on that? I put some seafoam in the top end once around 30K miles, but am interested to hear what the CRV community recommends on this.


Thanks in advance.
-Tyler

Good questions Tyler. I did some research on the valve cleaning issue and posted my thoughts and findings here:
https://www.crvownersclub.com/forum...ent-buildup-yes-no.html#/topics/195407?page=1

Tldr; valves are designed to allow some wash up and around the seal from inside the combustion chamber. I use fuel additive every other oil change to help it along (which goes against general DI theory but fits with the engineering design of the chamber). We need cars with >> mileage to know of the issue exists en masse.

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[Aviator]

Hi Guys,

I am not sure this question has been answered some in the forum before.

Would DIY maintenance “void 2017 CRV warranty”?

I have the knowledge and all the equipment to perform all the general maintenance work myself.

… I would keep detailed records which would include the type of service dates mileage etc.)
… List parts, materials used and their bills and I would use all genuine Honda Parts. (Examples type of oil, oil filters, crush washers, air filters).

I want to perform all Honda CRV “Multi-Vehicle Inspection Check list”. This includes Type A services and all the Sub items, as well Type B services.

… Under Hood
… Safety
… Tires
…Interior and Exterior
… Under Vehicle

Type B Services.

… Brake Condition
… Brake Service

I have Honda’s Service list for all the items to be performed to maintain warranty in Canada and follow Honda CRV manual service details.

If any special equipment or knowledge is required that I don’t have I would go to Honda Service and of course I would go for warranty work as required.

Any comments?

Thanks

 

[Mike728]

Hi Guys,

I am not sure this question has been answered some in the forum before.

Would DIY maintenance “void 2017 CRV warranty”? ...

Absolutely not! Keep detailed records and you'll be good.

 

[sirwired]

I don't know about elsewhere, but the US Owners site has a place for you to record maintenance and add notes; I use the notes to say where I've stored the receipts.

 

[CRV_N00B]

Thanks for the replies! Lot's of good info here.

I changed the CRV's oil this weekend and it was about a half quart high after 5,000 miles. Hoping with the 5K interval there won't be any serious ramifications from the oil dilution issue, but it sounds like it's anyone's guess at this point.

 

[fishycomics]

Where is the Emergency Brake? - only find the Electric Parking Brake

that is the E-Brake.

 

[joggernot]

I've used Fumoto valves since 1982 on all my cars and pickups. Never had a problem. 18 years on a 2000 Accord with no problem.