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We are looking to purchase my wife a new SUV and ultimately settled on the CR-V. Then I started researching common problems(big mistake!) with the CR-V and quickly came across the oil dilution issue. After researching for awhile, it seems it is assumed to be still an issue with the 2019 models but no one has said for sure.

With that said, is it better to get the LX model with the 2.4L engine rather than the 1.5T? Really our main requirements are AWD, remote start, backup camera. The only thing I am unsure of is getting an LX with remote start.
 

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You’ll get a variety of opinions here and here’s mine: If you have you heart set on a CRV, go with the LX version. Also realize there are a bunch of good alternatives from Mazda, Toyota, Subaru, Ford and Chevrolet. But I would absolutely avoid the Honda 1.5T.

There will be those who claim there is no issue, or it only affects a small number of vehicles or is an issue but of no consequence. It’s possible they’re right, but do you really want to roll the dice on a purchase of this size?

Of course, if your ownership horizon is 5 years/60k or less it really doesn’t matter so much.
 

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I bought my 2019 ex knowing about the oil dilution. I was willing to take the gamble because the crv beat out the competition really well for me.

Almost 4000km into my crv and I have no oil dilution. So I'm happy. But you will definetly hear alot of mixed reviews about that subject.

Lx wasn't a option for me. Not nearly enough features in that trim level.
 

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The core issue in my view with the 2.4L engine is that it is mated to a CVT, yet it's torque band (which is what drives a CVT) is much higher rpm then the 1.5T.

Setting aside the concerns about OD on the 1.5T, I personally would not buy the LX version because the 2.4L/CVT pairing is going to result in a vehicle you will constantly be over-throttling some in order to get the engine rpm where the CVT needs it. Now.. Honda may have tuned the engine and CVT well to avoid some of this, but in my view.. the number one feature you want in an engine when mated to a CVT is that the engine be torque rich at lower RPMs. This is the fundamental reason I passed on an HRV as my new vehicle (the powertrain is underpowered and noisy). There are other reasons to avoid the LX CRV as well... as it lacks many features that make the CRV standout against it's competition in the market. I think Consumer Reports got it right on their comparison testing between the 5th Gen CRV and the 2019 Rav4 ---> The low end Rav4 is superior to the low end CRV largely due to saftey systems being standard, whereas on the CRV they are a higher trim only feature (this will change in the next refresh, as it did with the Accord, but that is another topic entirely). All other trim levels though.. the CRV is far superior to the new Rav4.

As to the concerns about the 1.5T... there are concerns, there are some people reporting issues, and Honda has one or more TSBs open to address changes to the engine tuning (it's regional, limited to certain cold weather states UNLESS a problem is detected on a vehicle in a warm weather state...ie: the engine throwing error codes). Is it a big issue to be concerned about? Depends on who you talk to. Keep in mind... there are well over a million CRVs on the road with this engine, an engine that is a variant to the same powertrain in the Civic and Accord, and there are only a few hundred reports from owners on the NHTSA web site. Personally, I use the Civic enthusiast forums as my canary for issues with this engine (since the CRV engine is a very close configuration to the version in the Civic Si). There are some scattered reports of OD issues on Civics, but not enough to raise concern in my view.

There is a TSB for addressing the engine warming and OD concerns and Honda has stated that all new 2019s will have it applied before shipment from the factory. There is some skepticism by forum members here if the TSB actually addressed the OD problem or not.. it does appear to improve cabin heating though.

Here is the crux of the point for you regarding this engine ---> do you live in a cold weather climate state? If so.. then you need to carefully consider before buying because the bigger actual issue appears to be poor cabin heating and the engine never getting warm in very cold climate conditions (this was true also in China, where Honda recalled and retuned close to 400K, and I have not seen a repeat revolt from China consumers reported since the fix). The China Market demonstrates that Honda does have a grasp of the issue and has addressed it. Keep in mind the engine in China is sleightly different then the one in North America.... but it's the same core design.

While I think there are valid points and discussion to be made both ways on the issue of OD (which all DI engines are prone to exhibit to some degree).. on the matter of cabin heating in cold weather... that issue remains valid even with the TSB since I don't think owners have a full winter under their belt yet to prove the TSB fixed the issue. Personally, I am in the camp of let Honda sort it out and roll-out fixes if needed to owners with respect to the OD concerns. Honda has too much history of good engine design and reliability to get wrapped around the axle on one issue that may or may not be a reliability issue at all (there are opinions on this point, but no facts). It is worth noting that in addition to cold weather cold engine being a source of increased OD for this engine, there is also some evidence in forum discussion here that fuel blends (which vary regionally) may also be a factor (and if true, Honda can and should address this).

At the end of the day.... you will have to decide for yourself, and your personal location and circumstances, if the CRV is right for you... because you will not get an accurate consensus from any internet forum on this particular issue.
 

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I'm with the go for the Ex or higher gang. I have a 2018 ex-l with absolutely no issues with OD or heat in the cabin. If anything it gets too hot. I've got 6,000 miles on it and still love driving it. It's a great ride and looks damn good too.
 

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I'd say it's pretty close to being a toss up.

I have an EX. With those you get a few "upgrades" that might really not be upgrades depending on how you look at stuff. Many would view the 2.4L of the LX as the better engine, many would choose to not get the sunroof that's forced upon you with the EX and above, the larger wheels that come on the EX and above mean that tires are more expensive to replace and provide worse traction with winter driving, and the push button start of the EX and above might be a gizmo that you could do without.

The EX and above's larger touch screen is nice, but with the LX's head unit you get real buttons for the radio presets and other functions. In my opinion, real buttons are easier and safer to use while driving. The hvac system of the EX and above have a weird mash up of some of the functions being controlled by real buttons and knobs, and some functions being controlled by the touch screen. I find it to be confusing and hard to figure out while you're cruising down the freeway at 70mph and I wonder if the simpler system found on the LX might be the better choice.

The EX and above have the radar and front camera that allow for the adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assist, and automatic braking. These are fun toys and nice safety features, but there have been reports of malfunctions causing the car to suddenly slam on the brakes for no reason. In my opinion, the automatic braking does have the potential to prevent some accidents, but it also has the potential to cause some too.

Are all of the "upgrades" of the EX really worth it? I guess you'll have to decide that for yourself.
 

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The amount of cases of OD in the 2019 are so minuscule that they are right there in the background noise with just about every other issue you could possibly have with a car. I have a 2018 that is almost 18 months old. I drive very short commutes everyday and I have had no oil level rises. I have also taken the vehicle a few times to our local amateur race track and driven the hell out of it and have had no issues. I suggest you take a good look at that OD thread and start counting how many times the same names come up. One member did and he got 24 people that are complaining non stop about OD. If you look at NHTSA website there are only six complaints of OD on the 2019 vs 12 vehicles that had electrical problems and some of those six seem to actually be 2018's. You can do the math on the odds of getting a Lemon, but I think you already know its real small. I am loving the 1.5L and with the predictions of super high gas prices on the Horizon I am even happier with my choice.
 

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In our family we have three Gen 5 CR-V models, one EX and two Touring. Overall no problems with any of them. Get the vehicle you want and drive it, if you're concerned about OD get the extended warranty from one of the Honda dealers that sell it online. Go enjoy your new car.
 

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The amount of cases of OD in the 2019 are so minuscule that they are right there in the background noise with just about every other issue you could possibly have with a car. I have a 2018 that is almost 18 months old. I drive very short commutes everyday and I have had no oil level rises. I have also taken the vehicle a few times to our local amateur race track and driven the hell out of it and have had no issues. I suggest you take a good look at that OD thread and start counting how many times the same names come up. One member did and he got 24 people that are complaining non stop about OD. If you look at NHTSA website there are only six complaints of OD on the 2019 vs 12 vehicles that had electrical problems and some of those six seem to actually be 2018's. You can do the math on the odds of getting a Lemon, but I think you already know its real small. I am loving the 1.5L and with the predictions of super high gas prices on the Horizon I am even happier with my choice.
I bought a new 2012 Ford Focus with the 6 speed dual clutch transmission. There was considerable noise on Focus forums about problems with this transmission so before buying I also asked the direct question on the forum about whether this was a real issue. And I was told what some are telling the OP here: minuscule numbers of complaints, same people complaining, buy it an enjoy it, don’t worry, et al.

So, I bought it. And after two clutch pack replacements and countless software updates sold it before warranty expired. People rarely come to these forums with made-up complaints. And, at the risk of being identified as one of the chronic complainers, I still challenge anyone to find a used oil analysis on this engine where fuel dilution is less than 5% (panic time) when measured by gas chromotography. I’ve looked at dozens and found one.
 

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Good info for Potential CR-V Buyers like me. I priced a Tucson Limited this week. It has all the Goodies

I want ,except Looks. Also, not many available for some reason. So , I'm back to the CR-V EXL. Many

available. Thanks Everyone for the Info.
 

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I bought a new 2012 Ford Focus with the 6 speed dual clutch transmission. There was considerable noise on Focus forums about problems with this transmission so before buying I also asked the direct question on the forum about whether this was a real issue. And I was told what some are telling the OP here: minuscule numbers of complaints, same people complaining, buy it an enjoy it, don’t worry, et al.

So, I bought it. And after two clutch pack replacements and countless software updates sold it before warranty expired. People rarely come to these forums with made-up complaints. And, at the risk of being identified as one of the chronic complainers, I still challenge anyone to find a used oil analysis on this engine where fuel dilution is less than 5% (panic time) when measured by gas chromotography. I’ve looked at dozens and found one.
Yeah and I came to this forum and was told not to buy the CR-V because of OD. One guy even told me I would be crazy to buy the vehicle. Well I did not listen and just went with the raw statistics vs people with an Axe to grind and guess what, no problems at all, very happy with my purchase just like most of the people on this forum.
 

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I bought my 2019 ex knowing about the oil dilution. I was willing to take the gamble because the crv beat out the competition really well for me.

Almost 4000km into my crv and I have no oil dilution. So I'm happy. But you will definetly hear alot of mixed reviews about that subject.

Lx wasn't a option for me. Not nearly enough features in that trim level.
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Pick any vehicle and go to the forums that exist for it.

Every single vehicle will have their own version of the oil dilution thread.

Subaru has the dead displays, Corvette and Hyundai had metal shavings in the engine...
 
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