[Dsjorde]

Really good news but also some bad news. So my dealer charged 765.55 for fuel injector replacement. I'm not sure why it's so much less than other owners but that was the total. 479.93 for parts and 375.72 labor plus applied a coupon for $90 off. I continued to persist with Honda corporate and asked for an escalation to the supervisor. The supervisor approved a $400 credit to be used towards future service. So despite having 110k on odometer they still mailed me the credit. I highly recommend asking for a supervisor if you get denied for the goodwill. The bad news is that When I was looking under the hood I discovered the coolant overflow tank was empty. I brought this to the dealers attention and they said that coolant just needed to be replaced. However, my car was still rough idling despite new injectors. I did some research online and found one other CRV owner who had the same issue which was a blown head gasket. I brought it back to them three times and each time mentioned the head gasket (they kept refusing to check bc they said that it's too unlikely) which eventually led to them performing a leak down test and confirming that the had gasket is blown. I believe this may have happened due to the fuel injectors failing because I was driving the car for a couple of months as it was misfiring and the car was running extremely rough, So I think it put too much stress on the head gasket. Anyway, that was the last straw and so I traded the car a couple of days ago. The lesson is that if you're getting warning lights and the car is running rough, Don't wait for Honda corporate to get back to you about the credit, just go ahead and fix it and deal with them later. I hope this helps.

I have a similar issue with my 2017. CEL came on. Took to dealer, informed its bad fuel injectors. $1400 quote. Contacted Honda N. A.. After a bit of back and forth, they agreed to pay for half the repair. So I paid $700, got new injectors.
3 weeks later, CEL comes on again. This time running rough and stalling. Towed to dealer. Informed either blown head gasket ($4500) OR cracked head (addt. $1500) except there are no heads available, at all.
Contacted Honda N.A. again. They were no help. Contacted service manager. After talking to the tech, SM comes back with its probably a cracked head because it never overheated. Oh, and he said the turbo will have to be replaced as well because it cannot be removed from the head with out ruining it.
New estimate $7000! FML. Owe $16k still

 

[TheDarkKnight]

You have your own thread for the cracked here here:

2017 ex-l. 73k miles. Cracked Head

Cracked head with none available. Never overheated it. Dealer says they have to replace the turbo also because it's impossible to remove it without ruining it. Estimate is $7000

www.crvownersclub.com

Do not conflate it with this Master thread for fuel injectors please. Thank you!

 

[tar5143]

Posting in case this may be helpful to others. 2017 CRV EX w/ 1.5L Turbo, 82,000 miles. Bought used from Honda Dealership almost exactly two years ago w/ 60,000 miles. Clean service record when I purchased, w/ consistent oil changes, etc. and I’ve been changing oil about every 4,000 miles due to the known oil issues.

Last oil change I sent a sample for analysis and it showed 1.5% gasoline in oil after 4,000mi, which was below the 2% attention threshold on the report, and the report noted this was not an extreme level and it is very common in these engines. I noticed about a month ago that my fuel mileage suddenly dropped by about 5-10%, which I attributed to colder weather, winter gas blends, etc., and didn’t notice any other obvious changes.

Check engine light came on about a week and a half ago w/ “Emissions System Problem”. My OBDII scanner showed code P219E - Cylinder 3 Air/Fuel Ratio Imbalance, plus it was running rich with -13% long term fuel trim. Found this thread and saw the injectors are often associated with this code. Took it to the dealership where I purchased the vehicle and three cylinders were running rich and failed testing. Was quoted $1600 to replace the set of 4 fuel injectors and fuel rail. Confirmed this was not covered under the manufacturer extended 6yr/unlimited mileage powertrain warranty, and I’m 12,000 miles over the PA emissions warranty 7yr/70,000mi.

Spoke with my service rep at the dealership and politely explained that, while I’m aware I’m out of warranty, I’m also aware that the injectors are not just an isolated issue on my vehicle and asked if they could work with me to see if Honda will provide any assistance. Was told they would speak with their service manager, who would speak with their Honda rep, and that it usually depends on the service history of the vehicle with the dealership.

Considering I do most of my own fluid changes and hadn’t had the vehicle back to the dealership since I bought it, I wasn’t feeling confident and was ready to have to contact Honda directly. Got a call from the dealership service rep the next morning and was told that Honda will provide partial assistance and cover 75% of the total repair costs. I could not have been more ecstatic to essentially save myself $1,100. Still waiting on the repairs, but I figured I’d share my experience and maybe provide a template for anyone else who experiences this issue.

 

[joamazeme]

I purchased a 2018 CRV from my local dealer in Jan 2018. I do regular maintenance and, since covid, don't drive more than 8,000 mi per year since I work from home. I park outdoors in Wisconsin year round and must move to opposite sides of the street due to odd/even parking in the winter so, the vehicle gets started most every day. I now have 67,800 miles on the vehicle.

I think in the first year and the dealer did the AC repair thing and the PGM update and changed the oil. I monitored for a while after that and it seemed like everything was stable so, I haven't paid much attention in the last couple of years.

Just after Christmas we were driving around looking at lights and suddenly the dashboard started flashing warning lights all over the place and cycling through all the error codes. The engine light was on steady so I drove home and called the dealer in the morning. We were due to leave for 10 days vacation in a couple days and I hoped the dealer could at least look at it and tell me if it was safe to drive or not. They couldn't get me in for 3 days but, did say that since the engine light was on steady I was OK to drive it. So, I found a dealer along our route that was able to get me in the next day and we packed the car and hit the road. I drove for 2 hours with no cruise control or any other of the electronic helpers since they were all in error mode.

The dealer was waiting for us...so much more attentive than our local dealer, thank goodness.....and they got it in right away. After 20 minutes they come to show me the engine air filter and the cabin air filter and tell me that this is the culprit. The engine air filter was so full of gunk and oil that it was causing the engine to run too rich and that caused the error codes. So, they change the filters, do the 60,000 mile maintenance, give it a wash and send us on our way. The lights are off and the mileage has increased at least 5%. This is good. But, I'm a little concerned after listening to the explanation and reading the bill.

The bill states: Bunch of lights on. P0172 Fuel System Too Rich. Vehicle needs PGN-FI update and oil change.

Now, I already had the PGM update done so, I'm totally worried that this is an ongoing issue and I'll have to just keep monitoring it and they'll do the PGM update every so many miles. Plus, they charged me $82.34 for the update and $63.71 for the needed oil change, even though I had not even1000 miles on the most recent oil change. And, I have the longest extended warranty. The upside, I guess, is that they only did the Fuel Injection System Cleaning and Maintenance and not a Fuel Injector replacement. Now that the holidays have passed we'll be looking into reimbursement for some of this but, I'm not holding my breath.

For reference, we had 2002 CRV EX that we bought new and traded in with 235,000+ miles on this 2018 CRV EX w/Nav. I wish I'd have kept the 2002.

 

[Mani89]

I have 2017 Honda CRV ex 2wd. I had the previous fuel injector issue around 45 k miles and took the car to dealer multiple times. Got the good will replacement and spent ~$500 and resolved the issue

Now, I have something similar happening again. The car is around 62 k. I get some similar error messages every so often and they go away after I restart the car. These messages have gotten more frequent.


I wanted to know if anyone else has gotten fuel injection problems fixed and is now running into similar issues ?

I see the brake system, LKAS and ACC light come on. I have taken the car to a car wash but not tried anything else

 

[NotHappyOwner]

We have a 2017 CRV Touring that just shut down while driving on the highway in the middle of 'nowhere'. Engine made a weird sound, all the dashboard warning notices started popping up and then the engine quit. Long story, but finally towed it to our local Honda dealer and after several days, we are told that the engine was 'oil starved', no compression on 3 of 4 cylinders, cam shaft broken and seized into the head. It only has 50k miles and the dealer refuses to honor the Warranty Extension, service bulletin #19-032, which should go for six years and unlimited mileage. They want $8000 to put in used engine. We provided service invoices for oil changes up to last November when we changed the oil ourselves. Honda claims without an invoice from their service department, they cannot help us. Anyone have any legal options here? American Honda gives us the run around too.

 

[Coastie05]

We have a 2017 CRV Touring that just shut down while driving on the highway in the middle of 'nowhere'. Engine made a weird sound, all the dashboard warning notices started popping up and then the engine quit. Long story, but finally towed it to our local Honda dealer and after several days, we are told that the engine was 'oil starved', no compression on 3 of 4 cylinders, cam shaft broken and seized into the head. It only has 50k miles and the dealer refuses to honor the Warranty Extension, service bulletin #19-032, which should go for six years and unlimited mileage. They want $8000 to put in used engine. We provided service invoices for oil changes up to last November when we changed the oil ourselves. Honda claims without an invoice from their service department, they cannot help us. Anyone have any legal options here? American Honda gives us the run around too.

This has nothing to do with fuel injectors. Please start a separate thread on this topic.

 

[Cats394]

First time posting. Have a 2019 crv ex with ~45,000 miles. Emission problem light and check engine light came on while driving. Took car to dealership, $1600.00 later, had all fuel injectors and fuel joint pipe set replaced. Not happy, last crv was 9 years old, over 105,000 miles, never replaced these. Obviously this is a systemic problem. My question, does replacing them now guarantee i won’t have to replace them again? Should i be considering replacing this car?
Thanks for any help.

 

[CR-V 0WNER]

2018 CRV 100k miles. All lights came flashing on screen at once out of nowhere. Dealership replaced fuel injectors, but my invoice says nothing about “fuel rail” being replaced - should that have been replaced as well?

 

[SVTfocusO3]

Probably not.

 

[Grpass]

2018 CRV 100k miles. All lights came flashing on screen at once out of nowhere. Dealership replaced fuel injectors, but my invoice says nothing about “fuel rail” being replaced - should that have been replaced as well?

Several states extend warranty to 7 years 70000 miles and fuel injectors are covered. Federal emission laws.

 

[williamsji]

2018 CRV 100k miles. All lights came flashing on screen at once out of nowhere. Dealership replaced fuel injectors, but my invoice says nothing about “fuel rail” being replaced - should that have been replaced as well?

I believe the injectors and rail are all one assembly, and normally are all replaced in one service. Reason: the very high injection pressures with DI fuel injectors, and not wanting any fuel leaks after install. They may simply have not called out the rail in the paperwork if it was not a separate part number.

 

[williamsji]

Several states extend warranty to 7 years 70000 miles and fuel injectors are covered. Federal emission laws.

It is actually 13 states plus California, that adopted California emission standards. It is NOT a federal emission law requirement for 7/70K, but it is in these 14 states, and fuel injectors are considered part of your emissions management systems.

 

[williamsji]

First time posting. Have a 2019 crv ex with ~45,000 miles. Emission problem light and check engine light came on while driving. Took car to dealership, $1600.00 later, had all fuel injectors and fuel joint pipe set replaced. Not happy, last crv was 9 years old, over 105,000 miles, never replaced these. Obviously this is a systemic problem. My question, does replacing them now guarantee i won’t have to replace them again? Should i be considering replacing this car?
Thanks for any help.

I have seen no credible reports of repeat issues after the injectors are replaced.

Anyone claiming a repeating failure, needs to have the OBDII codes read to determine if there is a fuel mixture too rich code for one or more cylinders as THAT is the definitive indicator of either a spark plug or fuel injector issue.

 

[williamsji]

I have 2017 Honda CRV ex 2wd. I had the previous fuel injector issue around 45 k miles and took the car to dealer multiple times. Got the good will replacement and spent ~$500 and resolved the issue

Now, I have something similar happening again. The car is around 62 k. I get some similar error messages every so often and they go away after I restart the car. These messages have gotten more frequent.


I wanted to know if anyone else has gotten fuel injection problems fixed and is now running into similar issues ?

I see the brake system, LKAS and ACC light come on. I have taken the car to a car wash but not tried anything else

A lot of things can trigger those alert codes, including a weak battery or charging system. Stop guessing and speculating and have the OBDII codes read from the vehicle. There are specific codes that will be set if the injectors are bad ("fuel air mixture too rich" codes)

 

[CR-V 0WNER]

2018 CRV w over 100k Miles. My dashboard also lit up with all the alerts imaginable. Dealership ended up replacing the Fuel Injectors and Honda covered 90% of cost ($1700).

Huge kudos to Honda. They earned themselves my loyalty and another sale from me when the time comes.

 

[Cats394]

I have seen no credible reports of repeat issues after the injectors are replaced.

Anyone claiming a repeating failure, needs to have the OBDII codes read to determine if there is a fuel mixture too rich code for one or more cylinders as THAT is the definitive indicator of either a spark plug or fuel injector issue.

Thank you!

 

[pookh007]

I have a question: In order to change fuel injectors what else do I need to change? Meaning any gaskets rail rings and so on. I want to go to my local shop instead of dealer who charge 2-3 times more. Any help with this?

 

[Cats394]

Thank you!

I was advised by my dealer that the fuel joint pipe set had to be replaced as well.

 

[SVTfocusO3]

I have a question: In order to change fuel injectors what else do I need to change? Meaning any gaskets rail rings and so on. I want to go to my local shop instead of dealer who charge 2-3 times more. Any help with this?

Maybe Honda parts dept, especially if you buy from them, I'm sure they can advise you, if they are nice.