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Car Complaints website has labeled the 2017-18 CRVs as "Clunkers"

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That stat brings little comfort to those with the issue.

Three thoughts:

1) There definitely is an issue for many CRVs. As you likely know China stopped all sales of the CRV with our 1.5T engine until the excessive oil dilution is resolved.

2) Unless a CRV owner has a cabin heat issue or checks/changes their own oil - they will have no idea if they have an oil dilution issue - until slowly progressing engine wear causes a failure down the road.

3) Perception is reality. Even if there are thousands of CRVs without the issue - many used car buyers down the road will avoid our cars for fear they'd be getting one with the problem. This would reduce demand and reduce the trade-in value of our CRVs - even if they don't have the issue. Nothing we can do at this point other than hope for the best and manage our expectations regarding trade-in value and longevity.
1. Yes we all know that
2. We don't have enough info to come to any conclusions yet
3. There is no proof that trade-in has been affected and demand is increasing. Even after all reports of dilution
 
Respectfully disagree -

Regarding point 2: There is no doubt that there are many people who have the issue but haven't noticed it because they don't check or change their own oil. Most car owners NEVER open their hood - they just take it to the mechanic when the dashboard light or message tells them to - or if there is an obvious problem. It's pretty clear that Honda mechanics are not telling their CRV oil change customers that "By the way, your old oil was diluted with gas which will cause your engine will wear out faster than normal."

Regarding point 3: History has demonstrated that a vehicle with a poor reliability reputation is much lower in demand in the used car market. Econ 101 tells us that lower demand equates to lower price. Accordingly, unless Honda is able to resolve this issue (which may be impossible if it is due to a design flaw) the GEN 5's reputation will suffer in the next 1-3 years - which will result in depressed values for our trade-ins. Do you remember what happened to the earlier Odysseys with the weak transmission? They were raked over the coals in reviews and their values didn't hold as well as normal in the used car market.
#2 There is no proof that engine wear is a major issue at this point. The oil UOAs on here show almost no wear metals and fall within typical UOAs besides fuel dilution
#3 Again, Trade Ins and retail prices have not budged one bit. One of our CRVs was totaled and the payout was based on local retail and sold vehicles. It was quite high for 14 months of ownership.

Like I said above, we don't have proof of anything at this point. There is definitely an issue, but we don't know the long term effects yet. Drawing conclusions has been a real problem on here and it will continue till we have long term data.
 
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