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Consumer Reports - CRV vs. RAV4
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https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/honda-cr-v-vs-toyota-rav4-suv-face-off/
https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/honda-cr-v-vs-toyota-rav4-suv-face-off/
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Not a member; cannot read.Most here will like this.
https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/honda-cr-v-vs-toyota-rav4-suv-face-off/
TL;DR... They liked the CR-V better in every way, except for the fact that Honda Sensing isn't included in the base trim. They thought that the RAV-4 was noisy, poorly-packaged, an uncomfortable back seat, had chintzy trim, and an infotainment system that is mediocre. (Not that the CR-V was leading that particular category.)
I signed out of CR and went incognito and I could still read it.
https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/honda-cr-v-vs-toyota-rav4-suv-face-off/
OOPs never mind. That must be new.
They liked it way better for all the reasons we already knew.
https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/honda-cr-v-vs-toyota-rav4-suv-face-off/
OOPs never mind. That must be new.
They liked it way better for all the reasons we already knew.
I thought a quieter cabin was one of the promises in the new Rav4. Surprised to hear they didn't hit the mark.
I tested both. The Rav 4 gas model suffers from a very poor engine thats EXTREMELY loud. A very poor 8 speed transmission that will literally jerk you back and forth and random speeds and it also has extreme wind noise. I heard the hybrid fixes some of these issues.
I don't much care about Toyota's interior design but say what you want about Honda bean counters going over board with hard plastics in our gen V, I've gotten to accept and maybe even appreciate the minimalist flowing design Honda went with; whether intentional or cost cutting. Swap out that gear selector for a digital one and the interior can fit fairly well alongside the new crop of electric cars. It's a nice compromise between a button busy design and the sterile button phobia approach of Model 3.TL;DR... They liked the CR-V better in every way, except for the fact that Honda Sensing isn't included in the base trim. They thought that the RAV-4 was noisy, poorly-packaged, an uncomfortable back seat, had chintzy trim, and an infotainment system that is mediocre. (Not that the CR-V was leading that particular category.)
Interesting that most reviews call out issues with the infotainment but rarely give credit for Honda putting in Garmin vs. the competitions' pathetic excuse for navigation.
I do however like some of RAV4's new exterior sculpting - at least from certain angles.
IMO, they just copied the basic styling of an old Jeep Cherokee, then patch the front fascia of an old Tacoma, then modernized it a bit.
Interesting.TL;DR... They liked the CR-V better in every way, except for the fact that Honda Sensing isn't included in the base trim. They thought that the RAV-4 was noisy, poorly-packaged, an uncomfortable back seat, had chintzy trim, and an infotainment system that is mediocre. (Not that the CR-V was leading that particular category.)
I was waiting for the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid so that I could buy that. I was expecting to like it... Finally it was available and I went to the dealer to see it about a week or two ago. There was a lot I didn't like.
On the way home, I stopped at Honda dealership and looked at the CR-V. I liked it better than the RAV4 in just about every way. And so that's why I'm here on this forum now, researching various options...
In Consumer Report's auto ratings what is their pick for "top small SUV" this year? Is it the CRV, or something else?
Going to do a test drive the 2019 RAV4 hybrid this weekend as possible replacement of 2017 Touring CR-V for OD concerns. Pretty much had decided to not consider the gas version. Will see how the hybrid compares to the CR-V. It should be quieter then the gas version and the CVT should integrate well with the electric motor assist.
Prudence still says wait for 2020 touch-up however for any RAV4 including the hybrid. I was hoping Toyota has made a CR-V killer. Looks like they stumbled a lot more then I would have thought. Heck theyeven go a M for headlights rating per the IIHS. Just saying...
Prudence still says wait for 2020 touch-up however for any RAV4 including the hybrid. I was hoping Toyota has made a CR-V killer. Looks like they stumbled a lot more then I would have thought. Heck theyeven go a M for headlights rating per the IIHS. Just saying...
Can someone please post CR main findings? What did CR pick?
CR dinged the RAV-4 pretty hard for lack of interior and exterior refinement, fit and finish, and really dinged them on noise... both wind noise and engine noise. As is often the case with some new model vehicles with CVTs.... the CVT only works well within the engines torque band. The CRV with the 1.5T is very torque rich at lower RPMs... so it works really smooth and does not require engine racing. The new RAV-4, even though it is not a CVT, on the other hand according to CR requires the driver to essentially floor the accelerator, and you get the resulting noise of engine revs. That sounds like a poorly mated transmission to engine design flaw to me.Can someone please post CR main findings? What did CR pick?
Ending Summary from CR:
Bottom line: The CR-V is the better all-around choice because it outscores the RAV4 both in our road tests and Overall Score. We think the CR-V's EX trim is the best choice considering price and standard features, which include advanced safety equipment.
The RAV4 lost a lot of good qualities in its redesign, but its Overall Score gets a boost because of the standard advanced safety features. It makes sense for buyers to choose the RAV4 over the CR-V only if they want a base-priced compact SUV with standard advanced safety equipment.
They picked the Subaru Forester as number one for Compact SUV (even though they dinged it for noise) and the Subaru Crosstrek as number one for Sub-compact SUV. They picked the Mazda CX-5 as number two and CRV as number 3 in Compact SUVs... though the CRV beat the Mazda in road test scores.In Consumer Report's auto ratings what is their pick for "top small SUV" this year? Is it the CRV, or something else?
In the sub-compact SUV category... nobody is even close to the new Crosstrek from Subaru right now.
Toyota will still sell a ton of them. I remember when we were shopping for the CRV early 18, you'd be hard pressed to find them around us in the bay area - only recently are we seeing them everywhere. On the other hand I've seen the new RAV4s going around right from the beginning. Heck there are two just in our immediate neighborhood alone.
Yeah they will sell a Ton load to the die hard Toyota owners. That will last for a year maybe two but after that they will have filled that market and then be dealing with people who are not blinded by brand loyalty. At that point I think sales will not be so good.Toyota will still sell a ton of them. I remember when we were shopping for the CRV early 18, you'd be hard pressed to find them around us in the bay area - only recently are we seeing them everywhere. On the other hand I've seen the new RAV4s going around right from the beginning. Heck there are two just in our immediate neighborhood alone.
unless they made the Crosstrek larger in the cargo area, it looked smaller than the CRV gen 3 or 4(don't recall) w/a small back end. just too small a cargo area for the $ to me.They picked the Subaru Forester as number one for Compact SUV (even though they dinged it for noise) and the Subaru Crosstrek as number one for Sub-compact SUV. They picked the Mazda CX-5 as number two and CRV as number 3 in Compact SUVs... though the CRV beat the Mazda in road test scores.
In the sub-compact SUV category... nobody is even close to the new Crosstrek from Subaru right now.
I think the appeal with Subaru's is its AWD system. I almost bought the Crosstrek just because of it but the body and interior style is just too outdated, and when you match all the features of the CRV-EX, it becomes too expensive but less room and overall quality.unless they made the Crosstrek larger in the cargo area, it looked smaller than the CRV gen 3 or 4(don't recall) w/a small back end. just too small a cargo area for the $ to me.
Have a Crosstrek in the garage. It's garbage compared to the CRV. It feels like a AWD Chevy Cobalt.I think the appeal with Subaru's is its AWD system. I almost bought the Crosstrek just because of it but the body and interior style is just too outdated, and when you match all the features of the CRV-EX, it becomes too expensive but less room and overall quality.
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