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Just went to the Philly Auto Show yesterday. They had the CR-V Hybrid (Touring) on a display. At one point, visitors could go onto the display and get into the car. However, later on, they closed it off (probably because they had an NFL player signing autographs right in front of the opening for the platform.

Definitely looks nice. The product specialist did confirm a March debut and said they expect brisk sales (they have been waiting for this model for a long time).

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Very interested to see the EPA fuel numbers on this vehicle. I've read articles that Honda expects 40+ mpg rating, so if that holds in the real world, that plus standard AWD would make this car a no-brainer purchase.
 

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Very interested to see the EPA fuel numbers on this vehicle. I've read articles that Honda expects 40+ mpg rating, so if that holds in the real world, that plus standard AWD would make this car a no-brainer purchase.
I can get that for fun out of my 1.5T CVT.

The primary objective of any hybrid, is not fuel efficiency as many often mistake. Its to reduce emissions - however, a by-product of the set up means that it does inherently produce better gas-mileage, but nowhere near diesel-like performance.
 

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I can get that for fun out of my 1.5T CVT.

The primary objective of any hybrid, is not fuel efficiency as many often mistake. Its to reduce emissions - however, a by-product of the set up means that it does inherently produce better gas-mileage, but nowhere near diesel-like performance.
USA and UK mpg are not the same. 40 in UK is 33 to USAers
 

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A study was recently posted on some EU forums (sorry, I did not save the link..) that analyzed emissions from Hybrid vs conventional car engines and the result was that at least in some EU countries the drivers did not always "plug-in" to charge their hybrid and due to heavier gross weight, actually contributed more emissions. The fuel consumption numbers were also much higher than reported by manufacturer when operating in conventional fuel mode.
 

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It opened to the public last Saturday. It goes through Monday the 17th. It's huge! Seems odd that the industry can support 2 shows at the same time.
The Philly show is more of a "consumer" show, whereas Chicago is more of a "press" show with the aim of showing off concepts. There are a lot of smaller shows around the country going on at the same time.
 

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I'm not to enthused with the CRV hybrid. From what I can see, the battery is only 2kw. That will get you about 10 miles.Then the engine kicks in and you are back to a gasser. Why didnt/don't they put in a bigger battery and make one able to plug the dam thing in. The idea of not plugging in an electric vehicle is beyond me.
 

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I'm not to enthused with the CRV hybrid. From what I can see, the battery is only 2kw. That will get you about 10 miles.Then the engine kicks in and you are back to a gasser. Why didnt/don't they put in a bigger battery and make one able to plug the dam thing in. The idea of not plugging in an electric vehicle is beyond me.
Because the purpose of the current generation hybrid designs (CRV, Accord, and Clarity Hybrid) is to provide better fuel economy and lower overall emissions. It is NOT an EV, nor a hybrid EV design. It cannot be plugged in to a power outlet. Honda has only done a very limited EV rollout through one of the Clarity variants so far.... but that will change by 2025.

It may not be your thing.. but a lot of drivers are going to love the CRV hybrid because the 2.0L atkinson engine is more efficient even than the 1.5T, and it primarily feeds power through a generator directly to the electric drive motors. The battery is there only as a short cycle buffer between engine and electric drive motors.

The core issue with EVs is that they have limited distance endurance between charges, and most of them need at least 6 hours of charging on a 220 circuit to refill. Whereas a hybrid can drive any distance as long as there are fueling stations available for the gas. EVs serve well in light duty urban commuting, but suck for long road trips.

In addition, depending on your utility rates where you live, EVs can be quite expensive to keep charging every day.. and that means they also have a carbon footprint to them as well.. since the electricity has to be generated, and much of it in the US is from one variety of fossil fuel or another. Some EU countries have better power generation from green sources, but not the US.
 
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