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Just went to the Philly Auto Show yesterday. They had the CR-V Hybrid (Touring) on a display. At one point, visitors could go onto the display and get into the car. However, later on, they closed it off (probably because they had an NFL player signing autographs right in front of the opening for the platform.

Definitely looks nice. The product specialist did confirm a March debut and said they expect brisk sales (they have been waiting for this model for a long time).

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Very interested to see the EPA fuel numbers on this vehicle. I've read articles that Honda expects 40+ mpg rating, so if that holds in the real world, that plus standard AWD would make this car a no-brainer purchase.
I can get that for fun out of my 1.5T CVT.

The primary objective of any hybrid, is not fuel efficiency as many often mistake. Its to reduce emissions - however, a by-product of the set up means that it does inherently produce better gas-mileage, but nowhere near diesel-like performance.
 

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Always loved going to the Shows. thanks for sharing/
 

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I can get that for fun out of my 1.5T CVT.

The primary objective of any hybrid, is not fuel efficiency as many often mistake. Its to reduce emissions - however, a by-product of the set up means that it does inherently produce better gas-mileage, but nowhere near diesel-like performance.
USA and UK mpg are not the same. 40 in UK is 33 to USAers
 

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A study was recently posted on some EU forums (sorry, I did not save the link..) that analyzed emissions from Hybrid vs conventional car engines and the result was that at least in some EU countries the drivers did not always "plug-in" to charge their hybrid and due to heavier gross weight, actually contributed more emissions. The fuel consumption numbers were also much higher than reported by manufacturer when operating in conventional fuel mode.
 

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It opened to the public last Saturday. It goes through Monday the 17th. It's huge! Seems odd that the industry can support 2 shows at the same time.
Fate always conspires against me - I had really high hopes that I could make it!

Grrrr!
 

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It opened to the public last Saturday. It goes through Monday the 17th. It's huge! Seems odd that the industry can support 2 shows at the same time.
The Philly show is more of a "consumer" show, whereas Chicago is more of a "press" show with the aim of showing off concepts. There are a lot of smaller shows around the country going on at the same time.
 

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I'm not to enthused with the CRV hybrid. From what I can see, the battery is only 2kw. That will get you about 10 miles.Then the engine kicks in and you are back to a gasser. Why didnt/don't they put in a bigger battery and make one able to plug the dam thing in. The idea of not plugging in an electric vehicle is beyond me.
 

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I'm not to enthused with the CRV hybrid. From what I can see, the battery is only 2kw. That will get you about 10 miles.Then the engine kicks in and you are back to a gasser. Why didnt/don't they put in a bigger battery and make one able to plug the dam thing in. The idea of not plugging in an electric vehicle is beyond me.
Because the purpose of the current generation hybrid designs (CRV, Accord, and Clarity Hybrid) is to provide better fuel economy and lower overall emissions. It is NOT an EV, nor a hybrid EV design. It cannot be plugged in to a power outlet. Honda has only done a very limited EV rollout through one of the Clarity variants so far.... but that will change by 2025.

It may not be your thing.. but a lot of drivers are going to love the CRV hybrid because the 2.0L atkinson engine is more efficient even than the 1.5T, and it primarily feeds power through a generator directly to the electric drive motors. The battery is there only as a short cycle buffer between engine and electric drive motors.

The core issue with EVs is that they have limited distance endurance between charges, and most of them need at least 6 hours of charging on a 220 circuit to refill. Whereas a hybrid can drive any distance as long as there are fueling stations available for the gas. EVs serve well in light duty urban commuting, but suck for long road trips.

In addition, depending on your utility rates where you live, EVs can be quite expensive to keep charging every day.. and that means they also have a carbon footprint to them as well.. since the electricity has to be generated, and much of it in the US is from one variety of fossil fuel or another. Some EU countries have better power generation from green sources, but not the US.
 

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I too saw the CR-V Hybrid at my local auto show in Oklahoma City on Friday March the 6th, 2020. I found one in the state of Oklahoma and bought the CR-V Hybrid Touring on Tuesday March 10th, 2020. My previous car was a 2019 Honda Insight Hybrid Touring and this CR-V Hybrid is a big step up in a lot of ways! Lots more interior space, much quieter powertrain, much more compliant ride... Really enjoy this car!
 

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Eh, it was the same as my Insight. You get used to it and it becomes second nature!
 

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Eh, it was the same as my Insight. You get used to it and it becomes second nature!
Agreed. And as I have mentioned in another thread, I really dont think the CVT needs a shifter either.
 

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Eh, it was the same as my Insight. You get used to it and it becomes second nature!
I find it much easier to use, especially with other features of the hybrid. You only need two of the buttons most of the time, and they are easy to find. For example, leaving my garage:
  1. Push "POWER" button to start car.
  2. Without needing to look, find "R" button by sliding hand down row of buttons. When it passes the indentation, push the "R" button.
  3. Once in the street, find the "D" button by feeling for the self-centering raised rim. It took only a week for muscle memory to get it right every time. (BTW, in the hybrid there is no real reason to come to a stop. People know the electric motor has its torque at 0 rpms, but it also has positive torque at negative rpms. I don't do this if the speed exceeds about 5 mph, but I know of no reason why not to.)
  4. When I reach my destination, there is no need to push the "P" button. Pushing the "POWER" button again to turn the car off also puts the car in park. Can't do that with a mechanical shifter. (You can even configure settings so this activates the parking brake, and the first touch on the accelerator deactivates it.)
 

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When I reach my destination, there is no need to push the "P" button. Pushing the "POWER" button again to turn the car off also puts the car in park.
This is a very dangerous habit to get into. You could find yourself in a roll away situation if you drive another vehicle and don't put it into park after shutting it off.

Even though the vehicle will automatically engage park when the stop button is pressed, I would suggest continuing the two step process of engaging park, then shutting the engine off.
 
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