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Hi I've recently purchased a 2013 CRV 2 liter petrol 2 wheel drive version. It's got 84k on the clock full honda service history. Anyway I've got a slight problem with the clutch juddering when setting off especially when cold. After abit of driving it seems to be much less juddering. Clutch pedal seems nice and light. Thanks for your help in advance.

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Hi I've recently purchased a 2013 CRV 2 liter petrol 2 wheel drive version. It's got 84k on the clock full honda service history. Anyway I've got a slight problem with the clutch juddering when setting off especially when cold. After abit of driving it seems to be much less juddering. Clutch pedal seems nice and light. Thanks for your help in advance.

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Hi same problem here (CRV 2014 2.0 petrol MT). I do not see any further reactions on your post; did you find out what it was or is ? My dealer says - in my case - it’s not the clutch but the motor; I should simply give slight more rpms while setting off. (English is not my native language, I presume you mean driving away in 1st shift from zero..). I have difficulties to believe that’s the reason: In the 38 years that I drove Honda automobiles never I experienced this.. Next service I will request a check if there is zero oil leakage around the clutch plates.. I can imagine that there is even the smallest drop of oil on the plates, this problem could appear.. I would describe it as “rhythmically snapping” while the clutch pedal coming up. (Google translated sorry). If anyone has advice please reply thanks very much !
 

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I had the 2.0 4th Gen but it was an Auto, so I cant compare exactly.

But the clutch judder would indicate either the slave cylinder is primed to go or there is a fluid leak.

Best thing would be to get it on a ramp and have a look underneath for possible leaks. As to the slave cylinder, well, I'm sure you know that thats not a quick strip/check job!
 

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I had the 2.0 4th Gen but it was an Auto, so I cant compare exactly.

But the clutch judder would indicate either the slave cylinder is primed to go or there is a fluid leak.

Best thing would be to get it on a ramp and have a look underneath for possible leaks. As to the slave cylinder, well, I'm sure you know that thats not a quick strip/check job!
Thanks, quite a difference yes AT or - as in my case MT / clutch :)
The clutch itself is working perfectly for the rest. And the problem exists the most while driving away in cold conditions. And...... not always 🙈.
I cannot find a lot about this issue: The 4th gen in MT version is not sold a lot compared with the AT’s of course.. . But I see some complaints there also while driving away in low rpm.. I wonder.. Also the only thing I could find is a possible problem with the dual mass flywheel ??. Hope to find it out before the warranty (HQP) expires...
 

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It could be the DMF, but from wider reading, its more of an issue on diesel's, not petrols, due to the higher torque band going through them.

If you have warranty, I would give the headache to your dealer and let them fix it.
 
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Hi I've just learned to live with it. I drove my friends CRV of a similar age, it also had a similar clutch issue. I guess it's just a trait of the model. Only really noticeable when it's cold.

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Hi I've just learned to live with it. I drove my friends CRV of a similar age, it also had a similar clutch issue. I guess it's just a trait of the model. Only really noticeable when it's cold.

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My Honda dealer says that it is caused by condensation on the clutch surface. My 1.6 diesel also does this and it goes away after a few minutes. You might try pulling away with minimal revs at first I have found that this helps. I was very surprised to find this on a Honda, no other car I have ever driven has had this "feature".
 

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2014 CR-V 2.0 Manual Transmission “Elegance” 81.000 km

Still having problems - intermittently - driving away in 1st gear, juddering clutch / motor. Not exclusively with a cold motor. I have the idea, if I “warm up” the clutch by trying to drive away while the handbrake on, the problem disappears for some time.

The petrol version doesn’t have a DMF right ?

So it MUST be any sort of contamination of the plates. Broken plate springs or something like that would create a consistent problem, not intermittent.

Did ANYONE hear of a situation that the plates became contaminated? By any oil leakage of some kind ? There is no oil leakage to see from the outside…

The BIG problem is that in a few months a “HQP” warranty will end. My dealer says repair is not covered by this kind of insurance warranty system: The clutch is operating, and the complaint is not consistent. They offer me to change the clutch for EUR 900,- what should be a very reduced amount of costs, but can NOT guarantee that the problem will be solved..

So I am hopelessly trying to find out what to do.
Any usable advises or experiences are very welcome
 

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The petrol version doesn’t have a DMF right ?
Thats right, no DMF.

My dealer says repair is not covered by this kind of insurance warranty system: The clutch is operating, and the complaint is not consistent. They offer me to change the clutch for EUR 900,- what should be a very reduced amount of costs, but can NOT guarantee that the problem will be solved..
Its a risk, for sure.

BUT

If you did spend the money, you'd get a new clutch and you would be able to be safe in the knowledge its not going to fail within a good few years if driven sensibly.
 
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Thats right, no DMF.



Its a risk, for sure.

BUT

If you did spend the money, you'd get a new clutch and you would be able to be safe in the knowledge its not going to fail within a good few years if driven sensibly.
The thing is: I drove all kind of new and used Honda automobiles since 1983 or so, néver I had this kind of problems with a clutch system. Oké one time I needed to replace it after some time but I drove 470.000 km with this Accord.. This 2014 CR-V I spended a lot of my savings on, having the idea driving it until my retirement. Now I do not drive a lot anymore so I surely was not ready to expect to spend so much money on a 81.000 km CR-V, in milage NOTHING at least what I am USED to with Honda. But maybe there I make a mistake, on some kind of level the production quality of Honda automobiles isn’t anymore what it used to be..,

But thank you for the advise, I will consider it (changing the clutch plates). There I a small devil on my shoulder telling me trade this car in for a AT version..
 

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Had the clutch replaced by a local honda specialist last week the clutch judder is still present but not as much as before. The pilot bearing was shot though so maybe added to the problem. The mechanic did mention that the CRV of this vintage are prone to clutch judder and it's nothing serious.

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Had the clutch replaced by a local honda specialist last week the clutch judder is still present but not as much as before. The pilot bearing was shot though so maybe added to the problem. The mechanic did mention that the CRV of this vintage are prone to clutch judder and it's nothing serious.

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May I ask what you needed to pay to replace the clutch by a Honda dealer ? (Material and labor) I still experience problems with juddering, not only in cold conditions. It’s killing definitely my joy driving a Honda… (Heating it up by pulling the handbrake and letting to slip the clutch for 5 seconds or so takes away the problem. For a short time… Definitely a contaminated or bad designed clutch)
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I paid £560 all in using PCH honda in hazel grove.

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Thanks for the info. I think the repair price is about double here in The Netherlands. (Official Honda dealership, where PCH Honda isn’t. That explains also the price difference). I hope not, but if the problem returns (juddering clutch) in the next months, please inform us/me on this user forum. I would like to know if it is worth to invest so much money in prematurely changing the clutch
 

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Thanks for the info. I think the repair price is about double here in The Netherlands. (Official Honda dealership, where PCH Honda isn’t. That explains also the price difference). I hope not, but if the problem returns (juddering clutch) in the next months, please inform us/me on this user forum. I would like to know if it is worth to invest so much money in prematurely changing the clutch
The clutch fitted was a exedy branded one, I wouldn't discount using your local garage over a honda main dealer. It isn't a massively complex job to do.

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Hi same problem here (CRV 2014 2.0 petrol MT). I do not see any further reactions on your post; did you find out what it was or is ? My dealer says - in my case - it’s not the clutch but the motor; I should simply give slight more rpms while setting off. (English is not my native language, I presume you mean driving away in 1st shift from zero..). I have difficulties to believe that’s the reason: In the 38 years that I drove Honda automobiles never I experienced this.. Next service I will request a check if there is zero oil leakage around the clutch plates.. I can imagine that there is even the smallest drop of oil on the plates, this problem could appear.. I would describe it as “rhythmically snapping” while the clutch pedal coming up. (Google translated sorry). If anyone has advice please reply thanks very much !
I had same problem. Change.Trans fluid, filter and then there is a computer reset? Dealer had to flash something. What I also found was a problem exists with the Torque converter, so far this is not the problem I had. My car had a judder on / off at about 30 MPH, worse when in econ mode. As far as torque converter issue, the torque converter must be replaced. Also if you replace transaxel only use a new Honda part. reman or knock offs don't cut it. Also this is a 6 Cylinder 6 speed automatic tranny.
 

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I had same problem. Change.Trans fluid, filter and then there is a computer reset? Dealer had to flash something. What I also found was a problem exists with the Torque converter, so far this is not the problem I had. My car had a judder on / off at about 30 MPH, worse when in econ mode. As far as torque converter issue, the torque converter must be replaced. Also if you replace transaxel only use a new Honda part. reman or knock offs don't cut it. Also this is a 6 Cylinder 6 speed automatic tranny.
Hi.. The whole point of this post is about the ManualTransmission version with (manual) clutch system… NOT the AT one,,
 

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I have the exact same issue, but no solution yet. I also do the handbrake and pull away(ride on the clutch) which seem to help. I have also noticed occasionally when I pull away you hear a squeaking sound from the engine when releasing the clutch, which I suspect is related tot the problem. I is weird however that other owners don't complain, which would suggest that the issue is caused by something specific that goes wrong and not just a design flaw?
 
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