[kordy]

I am considering a CR-V Touring and saw this ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-CR-V-Touring-AWD/123637110129

It seems great at first with low-mileage, but then you realise, in the description, that this is ex-lemon car, returned to Honda due to the oil dilution issues.
But then it says, it has been fully reconditioned and fully fixed by Honda and there is a solid paperwork trail to prove that.

Too good to be true? I think that in Carfax, it will still show as a lemon and this will always be a black mark?

What would people do? Seems like a great offer! (or not?)

 

[UMRdyldo]

Very interesting, it will likely have a lemon/buyback on the carfax. But it's a hell of a deal on a good vehicle.

Obviously it's a risk, but if a dealer will stand behind the warranty then it's not a huge risk.

 

[Zip1]

But then it says, it has been fully reconditioned and fully fixed by Honda and there is a solid paperwork trail to prove that.

Be aware, I don't recall ANYONE claiming to have a "fully fixed" former oil dilution issue vehicle.
Fully fixed, in the case of a Honda CR-V, is in the eye of the beholder/dealership trying to sell it.

 

[williamsji]

There will probably be some number of these on the market over time as some owners simply get frustrated and lose confidence in Honda standing behind their product. Right, wrong, or just emotional relief on the part of the owner.... their car, their choice, and that extends to a potential buyer as well.

The listing company has been selling cars for a long time via EBAY I gather. That said.. I would never buy any vehicle via EBAY... even after I saw a good carfax report on it. But that's me personally. Not that I ever buy used cars anyway.

If you do decide to buy it... I would advise getting an extended warranty as well, preferably from HondaCare in my view and this car should still qualify given how new it is (more expensive but it puts everything on Honda's shoulders if you have any issues down the road). There is a lot of technology in the Touring, and if any of it breaks outside of warranty... it will be expensive to get it fixed.

 

[wasp09]

I don't see a buy button on that listing. You can only contact the seller. Hence it is just an ad. After all, I believe you have to visit the dealer the normal way.

Review for seller as seller is not good. 5 seller reviews in past 12 months, 4 bad and 1 neutral.

If it really sells, how much ebay/paypal would get out of this 24K transaction?

 

[Traylaw]

Check Kelly Blue Book value for this vehicle without an issue. Not a great deal. Walk away.

 

[rdrage73]

you can negotiate a better deal on a new one. It may cost a little more, but it will be a better deal.

 

[fishycomics]

read the OD he stated in his ad do you want that?

 

[robbyg]

I don't get it. It does not seem like the price is all that great considering it's a 2 year old vehicle.
I would spend the extra and get a 2019.

Rob

 

[Zip1]

It does not seem like the price is all that great considering it's a 2 year old vehicle.

Since the only option is to contact the seller, I'd guess it's a starting price with room to haggle

 

[fishycomics]

Carvana at least you get a 7 day trial Lol

 

[Marty913]

According to Kelly it should sell around $27,300 to $28,000 so not sure this is all that great a price. The price isn't an unfair start to negotiations but an extended warranty is a good recommendation.

 

[yst]

I would run away from this lemon as fast and far as I can. This car was a nightmare for the first owner and a Honda Corp and will the same for the next one.
Seller is not a Honda dealer, they purchase this car on the auction - go figure!

No extended warranty can be purchased on this trash!

 

[williamsji]

No extended warranty can be purchased on this trash!

Not true.

You can in fact get an actual HondaCare warranty extension for the vehicle as long as it goes through the certification process at a Honda Dealer. Since Honda claims the car was fully R&R'ed... this should not be a problem in this case. I would submit to the original poster of this thread that they make that a prerequisite to agreeing to buy the car from the seller. It will give peace of mind to the owner, and it will confirm that the vehicle is 100% HondaCare complaint, and Honda has to stand behind it for the duration of the Care contract. If it's not.. then I would walk away and not look back.

That said.. there is merit in taking the position of: NOT buying someone else's problems, and clearly this car had problems sufficient for Honda to buy it back and then liquidate it via auction.

From the HondaCare website:

Plans and Eligibility
To qualify for Honda Care©, a vehicle must be a Honda Certified Pre-Owned model. This means that your vehicle has undergone inspection at a Honda dealership and is less than six years old with no more than 80,000 miles on the odometer. Here are the basic certifications steps below:

Every aspiring Honda Certified Pre-Owned vehicle must undergo a thorough multipoint mechanical and appearance inspection from a Honda dealer to ensure that the car lives up to Honda Certified Pre-Owned vehicle standards.
Any component that does not meet standards must be reconditioned by dealer technicians.
Any component that is unable to be reconditioned must be replaced with a genuine OEM Honda part.

 

[TEXASCRVs]

I am considering a CR-V Touring and saw this ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-CR-V-Touring-AWD/123637110129

It seems great at first with low-mileage, but then you realise, in the description, that this is ex-lemon car, returned to Honda due to the oil dilution issues.
But then it says, it has been fully reconditioned and fully fixed by Honda and there is a solid paperwork trail to prove that.

Too good to be true? I think that in Carfax, it will still show as a lemon and this will always be a black mark?

What would people do? Seems like a great offer! (or not?)

Hell NO. Run away as fast as you can.

 

[H82LOS3]

Im sorry this is not even a question, the answer is simply no but thats just me

 

[Spectreniner]

you can negotiate a better deal on a new one. It may cost a little more, but it will be a better deal.

This. You can get an EX-L AWD for under 29,500.

 

[toofast68]

Run run far away

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[jayweiss]

I would not recommend purchasing the vehicle. No price advantage, it is a two years old, and it was a lemon.

 

[yst]

Not true.

You can in fact get an actual HondaCare warranty extension for the vehicle as long as it goes through the certification process at a Honda Dealer. Since Honda claims the car was fully R&R'ed... this should not be a problem in this case. I would submit to the original poster of this thread that they make that a prerequisite to agreeing to buy the car from the seller. It will give peace of mind to the owner, and it will confirm that the vehicle is 100% HondaCare complaint, and Honda has to stand behind it for the duration of the Care contract. If it's not.. then I would walk away and not look back.

That said.. there is merit in taking the position of: NOT buying someone else's problems, and clearly this car had problems sufficient for Honda to buy it back and then liquidate it via auction.

From the HondaCare website:

Plans and Eligibility
To qualify for Honda Care©, a vehicle must be a Honda Certified Pre-Owned model. This means that your vehicle has undergone inspection at a Honda dealership and is less than six years old with no more than 80,000 miles on the odometer. Here are the basic certifications steps below:

Every aspiring Honda Certified Pre-Owned vehicle must undergo a thorough multipoint mechanical and appearance inspection from a Honda dealer to ensure that the car lives up to Honda Certified Pre-Owned vehicle standards.
Any component that does not meet standards must be reconditioned by dealer technicians.
Any component that is unable to be reconditioned must be replaced with a genuine OEM Honda part.

This car is not for sale by Honda dealership and no one dealership will certified it for any used car dealer except for its own used car sales department. But Honda dealer sold it at auction. Certification by Honda is gone. Do you understand it?