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New Tire Replacement Question

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Hi everyone, I'm super glad to join this awesome community. My first post is unfortunately a question about a situation with my brand new tires on a CPO 2019 CRV LX AWD. So a few days ago my tire front tire picked up a nail in in the tread area and it hadn't been leaking at all. So I ended up dropping my car off at a local tire/mech shop to get the wheel patched and plugged. After I got my car back I decided to inspect the work and the shop ended up plugging the tire to which the shop insisted it was fine. From quite a bit of reading on the internet I realized that plugging a tire is not the correct way of repairing the tire. I also learned that many shops will not correctly patch a tire after it has been plugged. So now I am in this dilemma where I have a brand new tire with 2,500 miles on it that I may have to end up replacing after I get a second opinion from a few local shops. Now my question is, can I replace one tire and call it a day? Of course it will be the same brand and model but I heard that an OEM tire is not the same as an aftermarket tire and therefore it will not wear the same. Is this true? I have a Bridgestone ecopia tire that the dealer installed when making it certified pre owned. Can I replace this with the same bridgestone ecopia model from say Tirerack, Costco, or Amazon? I'm worried about damaging the AWD system in the long run if they wear differently. Thank you in advance for any help!
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If you need to replace it using the same tire you should be fine with only 2500 miles on the other 3. I don’t think OEM vs aftermarket is going to cause you a problem.
Yes, you can replace it with the same tire from another source. It's clearly not an OEM tire if the dealer replaced all 4 tires before selling the car to you. And there is no difference between an OEM tire and one you buy at Tirerack if it is the same make and model.
Thank you for your replies! I think I'm going to end up replacing the tire after I get a few opinions from nearby shops. I'll have them check the tread depth on the other 3 tires and will update here for your opinions on whether I should replace one only. Even then, I know tire rack does tire shaving so I'll probably have it shaved down if for any reason the tread on the plugged tire varies significantly from the original tread depth.
Why not just take the tire to another shop and have them put a patch on the inside, covering the plug? This is how it should have been patched originally, IMO. Re-balance the tire and you're good to go.
I've contacted a few places to replace the plug or make it more reliable and they said the only thing they would be able to do is replace the tire since it has been already fixed improperly.
Right now u can get )150 instant rebate on cross climate 2’s at costco

i had a crv with goodyear weatherready n they were awesome but now on my current rdx they werent offered in oem size so i went with cross climate 2’s

certified preowned shouldhave gotten a form with your brake and tire depths but regardless oem tires are total garbage lol

plugs are fine if they arent applied to the sidewalls, use this issue to replace them n move forward. Putting ANY money to match the oems is bad money
I've seen a lot of complaints about the ecopia in reviews and this forum and will swap out for different brand when the time comes, however I'm not in the best position currently to spend money on a set of 4 new tires. If the shop plugged my tires at around 15k or 20k I wouldn't have minded much but considering these have around 2.5k miles on them, I would possibly be getting away with replacing just one for peace of mind.

The nail that was plugged is actually just on the edge inside the allowed repair zone so my plug isn't exactly in the worst spot it could be from a safety standpoint.
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Another option would be to sell all 4 tires, say on Kijiji. I did this very quickly with my oem’s and replaced them with all weather Nokian WRG4’s when they had only 50kms on them. If you live in an area where people use snow tires, consider all weathers and skip the need to change seasonally. Otherwise, I highly recommend a premium all season. My OEM’s were Continentals and I was able to sell for $75% of the new price.
That seems like a good idea too. Where I live, it generally snows two or three times a year. However it rains more frequently so one thing I would definitely factor in when buying tires is performance in wet conditions. Im sure a good premium all season tire would fit the bill perfectly in my scenario. But for the time being, I'm looking to get the most use out of the ecopia's until I'm in a position to splurge on a nice set of tires lol.
That's BS in my book. They just want to sell you a tire. Putting a patch on the inside is how to fix it correctly. Find another shop.
I found a tuner shop that specializes in Subaru vehicles nearby, I'll be giving them a call when they are open tomorrow. They might also be able to help me out with the tread differences I think in case I might need to replace one tire.
Personally, I would not worry about the plug, regardless of what the “experts” say. I have run often on plugged tires for years without any issue at all.
In trying to research plug vs patch online, I almost always found more people saying that plugs never failed them. And in the event that it did, it was just a slow leak. I for sure know I do not have side wall damage since the nail never cause my tire to go flat so I know my tire is not compromised in that sense. I'll likely get opinions from a few specialized shops that I found In my area after they inspect the tire and then go from there. The friends I know said plugs should be fine but I'd rather have a peace of mind.
The problem with 'plugged' tire repairs is the plug gets cut by the radial belts. If it hasn't been vuclanized with the tire well it could cause a problem. The flexing of the sidewall is what I'd worry about. For me, the peace of mind of putting on a new tire is worth the $. Yeah it sucks that it's so new but what are you going to do? I've had it happen to me too, only a repair wasn't possible. Wife ran over an aluminum ladder on freeway. I found the cut tire when I washed the car. She hadn't told me about it. Guess she felt it was OK since it still held air.
I definitely agree, the thing im most worried about is water getting into the belts and rusting them since I believe the plug they installed is a rope plug. Where I live, it rains frequently.
Here's what I do if I was in the position. Get a plug thread and use some cement glue they use to glue tired patches and poor on the thread and push it through the hole assuming you took the nail out first and then pull it back out and it should plug the hole. Just pushing the thread through will not seal the hole but the patch cement glue will help seal any holes permanently from leaking. This is from experience just the plug without any patch cement will not seal it. And then you can save money up for a actual tire replacement for all 4 down the road when you get the time and money for it. But if it's AWD don't replace one it has to be all 4 for equal wear and grip and stability-FWD you can get away with just the fronts since those are the one spinning only.
Hi, the plug was installed by a local tire shop already after they pulled out the nail. It was a pretty small screw and they did a clean job. It is holding air perfectly. But the only problem I am having is that it is a string plug which isn't the most safest repair method considering my driving conditions.
So I have gone ahead today and measured my tread depths on the plugged tire and the other tire on the opposite side of the axle using a slime branded tread depth tool I borrowed from a coworker. They are both measuring right between 9/32 and 10/32. Is it safe to just replace the one tire when considering the tread depth of a brand new ecopia is 10/32 give or take?
The proper repair for a simple tread puncture is Plug + Patch, from the inside of the tire. did the shop do that, or just a plug? I ask because you the owner cannot verify a patch repair on the inside unless you actually observed the repair in progress.

The plug is to fill in the missing rubber where the puncture took place and is inserted from the inside of the tire, and has a small retainer lip on it, and the patch insures that the tire is fully sealed and safe to drive on for the remaining life of the tire. Both are glued in the repair process to form a permanent vulcanized rubber seal.

A plug is fine as a temp repair to get you to a tire shop (I carry a set of plugs and tools to patch a simple puncture with the tire still on the vehicle, as well as 12v powered air inflator). But a permanent repair requires filling the hole from the reverse side with a plug and then bonding a repair patch over the inside surface where the plug is located. Tire shops will also grind the inside rubber surface a bit to help get it clean for permanent gluing.

If replacing a single tire, it must be the same brand, model, and size of tire or your AWD will go nuts, make noisy driving, and ultimately may fail under the stresses of mismatched tires. It also must be close to the rest of the tires in diameter, so generally you would only replace a single tire if it was still with good tread life matching the rest of the tires (~70% remaining tread is fine as is. If there is less tread on the other 3 tires than this, the best practice is to replace the pair of tires on the same axle, and insure they are always on the same axle when rotating tires periodically.
I think they definitely just installed a plug since I can see the fibers and its orange in color. I called many nearby shops but they do not want to fix the plug repair since it has been repaired improperly in the first place. I thought too that I can go somewhere else to get it done again but all the shops nearby are saying no unfortunately.

With those tread measurements, your AWD system will not notice that there is a new tire on the vehicle, because you will only see a 10-20% difference in tread between new tire and remaining tires. This is the plus of losing a tire early in tread life... no worries about multiple tire repairs as long as you replace like tire with like tire.

But again... if a quality tire shop (like Discount Tire) says the tread is repairable, you can put that in the bank. Also, DT will do exactly as I described above... pull the tire from the wheel, prep the inside of the tire for plug and patch and then apply a plug with a head on it, followed by an inside patch... both glued to vulcanize to the tire rubber, and then remount and rebalance the tire. I have one of these currently on my CRV, and I have also had on on an earlier Honda and they never failed during the life of the tires.
I wish I had a discount tire nearby but none in my area unfortunately as I've heard great things about them. Also it seems that there has been barely any tread wear on the other 3 tires so I'm probably just gonna go with replacing one at this point.
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A replacement tire certainly is a valid option.

Murphys law though suggests that the new tire will also likely pick up a puncture before any of the older ones do. o_O
Haha, that's definitely a possibility. If that happens, I'll probably just quit driving and take public transportation.
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