[Medser]

Now I am scared! I came here to this forum and other CR-V forums because I'm buying a new 2019 CR-V next week. (The car I plan to buy should be delivered this coming week. Here in So. California the selection of AWD is limited, so I wasn't able to buy one of the lot in the color I want.) And I was excited about that, and also wanted to learn more about features, see if I should get the Honda roof rails and receiver or after-market ones, etc. But after reading more about some of the issues some Gen 5 CR-V owners are having (oil dilution, flakey computer, etc.) and more disturbing to me--how Honda seems to be responding to some people who have cars with these issues--should I be buying a Honda at all? Am I making a big mistake?

Are the "issues" just with 2017 and 2018 models, or have they been fixed in the 2019 model? Oil dilution, in particular, really bothers me. I realize that not all CR-V's seem to suffer from this, but from what I'm reading, I think it's a real possibility that those who do suffer from it may have engines that fail prematurely, and *after* the car is out of warranty.

All input on this is appreciated...

 

[robbyg]

Those threads are designed to make you scared, it's a small group of people that post to them daily because they are pissed off that they got a lemon and want some revenge on Honda. Most of us have read them and numerous others threads in the past and still went ahead and bought a CRV. Almost none of us have had a problem!

No vehicle is perfect but the amount of vehicles with OD is very small and no matter how they want to spin it we have seen almost zero evidence that any engines are blowing up or breaking down, even from those that say they have OD. Most of us are driving our CRV's and loving them. My dipstick has never gone up and the vehicle has never given me any problems and mine is a 2018. The 2019s seem to have even less reports of issues with only 6 reported case and only 4 of those being real 2019s. Keep in mind that is out of about 200,000 (2019) vehicles sold.

Your odds of getting a lemon are probably about .01% which is better than it is for most other cars on the market. So keep in mind with any vehicle you purchase there is always a small chance of getting a Lemon.

As for the Electronics I don't know what has you worked up about that. The system runs on the Android OS and just like any android device it needs to periodically be rebooted. Just press the volume button in for several seconds and it reboots. I do this about once a month and have never had any issues. Some people have had weird display issues but that once again falls into the category that not all cars are perfect and some are Lemons. If you go to any of the car forums you will find the same kinds of complaints on various issues that a few people have.

If your really worried just pay the $1000+ extra and get the extended warranty.


Rob

 

[jim256]

Mine has been perfect. No OD, no issues at all. They sell about 1000 of these a day, so if they all had problems, perceived or real, the lines at the service dept. would be long. Just read the manual (online, not the summary guide that comes with the car), make sure you know how everything works, and enjoy the car.

 

[S2k_Dude]

Not another thread about, "Should I buy" because the posters on the OD thread just want to kill everyone else's excitement for the 5th Gen.

In fact just today I just ran across another owner of a 2017 EX-L and after discussing our cars, his had no OD either. So far I've not run across another person in my circle of friends, family, and acquaintances who are experiencing any problems with their 1.5T engine. Sure there must be more out there than what's on this forum, but I can't seem to find them and I'm up to almost a dozen owners that I either know or have met, none of them experiencing any OD problems. My CR-V might even be the worst OD of any of those, but for me, it's probably because I keep a very close eye on the oil level, watching it rise and fall.

 

[robbyg]

Not another thread about, "Should I buy" because the posters on the OD thread just want to kill everyone else's excitement for the 5th Gen.

In fact just today I just ran across another owner of a 2017 EX-L and after discussing our cars, his had no OD either. So far I've not run across another person in my circle of friends, family, and acquaintances who are experiencing any problems with their 1.5T engine. Sure there must be more out there than what's on this forum, but I can't seem to find them and I'm up to almost a dozen owners that I either know or have met, none of them experiencing any OD problems. My CR-V might even be the worst OD of any of those, but for me, it's probably because I keep a very close eye on the oil level, watching it rise and fall.

Same here, I have at least run into a dozen people with Gen5 CRV's and none of them have dilution. I even had a couple of owners that did not know what it was so they asked me to check. They pulled the Bonnet and I did a quick oil check. In those two or three cases the oil was exactly at the top line, with just a faint smell of Gas. Exactly what one would expect with a GDI engine.



Rob

 

[noront2019]

It's like Russian Roulette. Hopefully when you pull the trigger it will be one that does not have the problem. Just to clarify some of the quotes re the numbers with the problems you have to remember that not every owner reads these forums and there are probably 80-90% of the owners that do not even know about the problem. In the last 6 months I have talked to owners that new nothing of the OD situation but found out very quickly by visiting their dealer or just checking the oil. It is a major investment and you can get a lemon from any mfg. However knowing there is this problem beforehand and the manner in which the owners are being treated in this regard is the reason I changed my mind about buying one. The final decision is yours. Do your research not only here but across the internet. Talk to other owners to determine their situation and then make the final decision. In the event that you do get one with the OD then that is something you will have to deal with moving forward.

Personally I would not buy at this time until Honda figures out what the hell is wrong with the 1.5T.

Good luck!:confused2:

 

[tomsch63]

Given the number of 2017-2019 CRVs that have been sold I would not worry too much. I have a 2017 AWD Touring that has 12k miles that has had zero issues whatsoever. I'm a sample size of one but given the number sold it still should be a safe buy. BTW my wife's 2015 MB GLK350 just received a recall and this is a car that is 4 years old so not all cars are perfect anyway.

 

[+MyHonda]

Those threads are designed to make you scared, it's a small group of people that post to them daily because they are pissed off that they got a lemon and want some revenge on Honda. Most of us have read them and numerous others threads in the past and still went ahead and bought a CRV. Almost none of us have had a problem!

No vehicle is perfect but the amount of vehicles with OD is very small and no matter how they want to spin it we have seen almost zero evidence that any engines are blowing up or breaking down, even from those that say they have OD. Most of us are driving our CRV's and loving them. My dipstick has never gone up and the vehicle has never given me any problems and mine is a 2018. The 2019s seem to have even less reports of issues with only 6 reported case and only 4 of those being real 2019s. Keep in mind that is out of about 200,000 (2019) vehicles sold.

Your odds of getting a lemon are probably about .01% which is better than it is for most other cars on the market. So keep in mind with any vehicle you purchase there is always a small chance of getting a Lemon.

As for the Electronics I don't know what has you worked up about that. The system runs on the Android OS and just like any android device it needs to periodically be rebooted. Just press the volume button in for several seconds and it reboots. I do this about once a month and have never had any issues. Some people have had weird display issues but that once again falls into the category that not all cars are perfect and some are Lemons. If you go to any of the car forums you will find the same kinds of complaints on various issues that a few people have.

If your really worried just pay the $1000+ extra and get the extended warranty.


Rob

Just curios. If the number of vehicles with the OD problem as low as you say then why wouldn't Honda just replace the engines on the effected vehicles? It would be a very low cost compared to the bad PR they may receive for not fixing it.

 

[fishycomics]

OMG you rely on forums to buy cars and other forums as well. Good luck that said.

what did you do before the internet was made back late 80's what did you do. read a book? talked to your friends. Well I was in SoCal and I was shocked to see the Honda Dealer I went into in Ontario had no Show room and only one CRV on the Lot at that given time in 2017 wow it was two years ago. Sorry but the decision you make is all you my friend and hope you made the right one.

 

[fubarnow]

OMG you rely on forums to buy cars and other forums as well. Good luck that said.

what did you do before the internet was made back late 80's what did you do. read a book? talked to your friends. Well I was in SoCal and I was shocked to see the Honda Dealer I went into in Ontario had no Show room and only one CRV on the Lot at that given time in 2017 wow it was two years ago. Sorry but the decision you make is all you my friend and hope you made the right one.

Reading Reviews by Actual Buyers is Better than Hype from a Manufacturer.
OMG You rely on sales Brochure when Buying a Car?:snork:

 

[TLC1957]

Do what I did when I got my 2017 Tour, Prices I was quoted in November 2017 for HondaCare.

College Hills Honda D82$1120,
Saccucci Honda D82 $1170, C82 $1065
Hyannis Honda D82 $1110, C82$1005
Curry Honda D82$1260, C82$1155

C82 $100 Deductible
D82 $0 Deductible

C/D= 120K miles, 8 years

These are internet prices you do not have to buy the HondaCare warranty from the dealer you are purchasing the CRV unless they can match it.

28k miles no problems with my CRV.

 

[imwato]

It’s funny how concern people is about OD when they do not tend to keep a vehicle more than 5 years.. the days when people kept their vehicles with them more than 10 years are gone.. just saying!


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[rd082298]

If it were me and I could do it all over again I would lease the CRV that way if you develop the OD problem you can turn it back over to the dealer at the end of the lease. If it doesn't develop OD you can always buy it after the lease is up. Other than the OD its a great vehicle.

We bought our 2018 Touring expecting no major issues with a CRV. I was dead wrong. Ours is diluting horribly and presently has 5,800 miles on it. The oil level is 1" over the high mark after only 1,700 miles since the non-fix. After the non-fix the dilution actually got worse. We are one year into this and Honda customer service has been horrible. Basically after the non-fix was preformed they told use to go %$#@ ourselves that the oil diluter is operating as designed. There are some very vocal Honda fan boys that will tell you to ignore those that have the issue but it is a real issue for those that have it. Good luck with your decision.

 

[wymark]

It sure scared me. I was in the same position as you a few weeks ago, was going to sell our 2012 and buy a new 2019. Then I found the OD thread on here and researched it some more, and called the dealer to ask them about it. "Never heard of that." Called the Toyota dealer about a Rav4 instead. We ended up not selling our 12, and plan to keep it till the wheels fall off. Or until Honda builds a good GDI engine, whichever comes first.

 

[robbyg]

Just curios. If the number of vehicles with the OD problem as low as you say then why wouldn't Honda just replace the engines on the effected vehicles? It would be a very low cost compared to the bad PR they may receive for not fixing it.

Simple because if they did that then every person who smells any gas in their oil or see's even the slightest increase in oil levels would insist on a replacement engine. These are all normal occurrences for GDI engines but once you set a precedence it opens your company up to legal challenges from any owner that feels he has a problem and that in turn opens up Honda to prove what is a safe amount of OD. Why would they want to take on this monumental legal challenge of setting standards for all GDI engines sold in the USA?

 

[bearcrkrd]

Helped a family member shop for a 2019 EX AWD a couple weeks ago. We are in the Seattle area. They're happy as a clam at high tide so far. We'll see.....
If we had wanted a 2WD, it would have been SLIM pickings. OP's post highlights regional differences to the max!

 

[dstein]

Just curios. If the number of vehicles with the OD problem as low as you say then why wouldn't Honda just replace the engines on the effected vehicles? It would be a very low cost compared to the bad PR they may receive for not fixing it.

And I might add, why not apply the fix that they have done for "all" 2019 by owners that want the fix for 17/18- regardless of our delusion. Surely Honda can accommodate 20 "crazies"for a simple SW update/flash that all 2019 have from the factory to stop all the complainer and bad press. Right?

But they don't. Hmm..... May not so crazy after all. LOL.

 

[Rhc3po]

I'm in SoCal too, bought my '18 Touring with AWD, after being told by the dealer "AWD is not really sold in Southern California, it's more for Northern states. We can't help you." I emailed Corporate , told them what I'd been told, asked them if it was true. No reply from Corporate, but the next day the dealer called to say they'd find me just what I wanted. Turned out there were two black AWD Tourings within twenty miles. Mine actually came from another dealership! I've been very happy with it, (NO oil dilution that I can see) but still have a sour taste in my mouth from that dealer...

 

[robbyg]

I'm in SoCal too, bought my '18 Touring with AWD, after being told by the dealer "AWD is not really sold in Southern California, it's more for Northern states. We can't help you." I emailed Corporate , told them what I'd been told, asked them if it was true. No reply from Corporate, but the next day the dealer called to say they'd find me just what I wanted. Turned out there were two black AWD Tourings within twenty miles. Mine actually came from another dealership! I've been very happy with it, (NO oil dilution that I can see) but still have a sour taste in my mouth from that dealer...

That's a pretty stupid dealer! Any smart dealership will try and find you the car you want from any nearby dealers and that way they make a sale rather than lose one. If it makes you feel any better I went through a lot worst than you did. I paid down on my vehicle before the first shipment arrived and was told I would have to wait 4 weeks. It ended up that they did not receive any AWD models in that shipment so I ended up waiting 3 months in total for the vehicle I had chosen. The only nice part was that they gave me a fairly good discount because of the screw up. The other bonus was that the regional manager invited me to the opening of their Porsche Dealership and we ended up getting along very well. From talking to her I can tell you that running a dealership is no easy task, the bad service a lot of people get is due to staff that just don't care. She told me that finding good employees is her number one headache and she spends half her day putting out fires that were started by employees that are lazy and don't follow proper procedures when dealing with customers.


Rob

 

[fishycomics]

Yep I sure do in ways