[rocky]

2021 Update - OD is fixed. No further discussions permitted and is not up for debate.

 

[sirwired]

Thank you! This was starting to look like the "CRV-OD" forum instead of "CRV-OC"!

 

[rd082298]

This is unfortunate and very heavy handed. The best forums allow for freedom of topic as long as people aren't attacking one another in which case the offender is typically warned and if they don't heed the warning then they are banned. The reason there have been so many threads on the "banned topic" is that it effects everyone differently depending on driving habits, geographic location, configuration etc. hence the desire and need to open multipole topics on the "banned topic". The best part of the forum is now gone. I guess we can all take our happy pills and pretend that we are in Shangri-La.

 

[crv383]

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[crv383]

Thank you! This was starting to look like the "CRV-OD" forum instead of "CRV-OC"!

:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

 

[mmanna]

My wife has a 18 CRV-L and after reading all the stuff on the net about this I checked the oil and the level was above the orange plastic by about 1/8 inch. Dealer did an oil change free and told me the vin was not covered under the TSB addressing the heat and oil dilution issue. I never had or have a heat problem. After reading and viewing many posts (with pictures) on the oil issue there is one thing that seems to stand out and that is that everyones "oil dilution" dip stick looks the same. Now how could that be?

 

[BobInPa]

I got around to reading this thread after I brought my Poll to the forefront. I agree that there were way too many threads on The Problem, however restricting them to one thread doesn't make it that much easier to find the actual results of The Fix.
Since you are taking this approach would it be possible to incorporate a Poll into whatever thread you deem appropriate.
I believe my Poll:
https://www.crvownersclub.com/forum...l-dilution-software-update-actually-have.html
covers most possibilities.

 

[jtuber]

How is consolidating the OD discussion into one thread going to make it easier to read for people who don't frequent this site that often? I would rather read the titles of the threads and decide to dive in or to skip over. If the OD issue is having so much activity, having 1 thread could result into a lot of pages and frankly I don't want to read through a thread with hundreds of pages. Good intention but bad side effect IMO.

 

[boooey]

Due to the volume of complaints about the volume of "OD" threads, a decision has been made to only allow one thread for all discussion about this issue as some say or alleged issue as others say.

Existing threads will be closed you can put your comments here. Any new threads opened will be closed or consolidated into this thread.

In accordance with existing practice as some have discovered, posting privileges can be withheld for any poster who fails to uphold community standards of civility and respect.

The Moderating Team.

Thank you Rocky but why not just a "Issues" sub forum instead of just a single thread?

 

[calico]

An issues sub-forum is a better idea.

 

[Coldhonda]

Crv vs extra cold thread closed too?

So basically, threads viewed as Honda Friendly can be unlimited. All others deemed as having critical wording of Honda will all be crammed into 1 thread.

 

[Jst_Bcuz]

I am one of the my people that may have an Oil dilution problem. To explain that comment mine is nowhere close to what some of the member describe here and my dealership starting a case with Honda now. Which according to the service manager is the first case they have seen in eastern North Carolina.:confused2:

Not being an Automotive engineer and only a "shade tree" mechanic. I was wondering if any of the members have had there PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) system checked by Honda? All the informative information from Honda is saying that the gas is not evaporating/burning off from the oil reservoir/oil pan, it would be that system that carried the vapors away. With a turbo charged engine I would think the PCV system would be weak because of the turbo pressure in the manifold. All the PVC systems that I have seen operate using vacuum from the intake manifold. As I said I'm not a automotive engineer and maybe some here knows how it works different on the turbo engines.

Yes, I plan on asking my dealer about the system when they call me back.

 

[jtuber]

Crv vs extra cold thread closed too?

So basically, threads viewed as Honda Friendly can be unlimited. All others deemed as having critical wording of Honda will all be crammed into 1 thread.

I noticed that and didn't get around to post about it. You beat me to it, ColdHonda. After the fix, I now do have a cold Honda (go figure). I did a fix and it worked! I was going to post about the fix but with the discriminating thread closure, I am not sure about posting it since it is not a Honda feel-good piece.

 

[Dans15]

A single thread will be a mess. There are a lot of sub-issues here: Heat, did the fix work?, dealer attitudes, used oil analysis results, anecdotes from owners, 17/18/19 differences, et al.

This decision will wind up inhibiting discussion in the interest of placating Honda fan-boys who simply can’t just stay away from threads that may offend them. And just maybe, absent fuel dilution, there just isn’t a whole lot to discuss: this isn’t a Corvette forum.

Other forums certainly police things, but usually only to get posts into the right category or when there’s abusive language.

 

[Traylaw]

This is a bit simplistic but here goes. The PCV system on the 1.5 turbo is a bidirectional system consisting of two oil air separators. One for the intake manifold the other for the turbo charger. When the intake manifold pressure is below the pressure at the intake of the turbo. Air travels from the turbo intake via a crankcase breather tube into the crankcase, then to the intake manifold. Under turbo boost the air direction reverses. The oil air separators are built into the top engine cover.

 

[MGAlover]

Trying to put every post on this topic together is a really bad idea and as Dans15 said it just creates a mess for anyone trying to track what is going on. If you really want to create something useful then start a thread asking the club for suggestions on topics for an organized sub-set that would be truly useful in following each topic.

I want to follow the results of people who have had the fix. I know there is a poll but it is not being used. I counted at least 18 owners who have reported they are experiencing worse conditions, heat or oil, since having the fix. The poll doesn't list them because they were posting on a thread with a heading to let them tell their story.

I want to see factual numbers from people who have had an oil analysis.

I want to see a thread where people can toss out their ideas on why this engine is not living up to the normal Honda standards.

I want to see a thread that shares what dealers are telling owners who have this problem.

I could go on. My point is this topic needs to be organized into sub-sets that people can follow based upon their interest. That is the basic concept why each generation of CR-V's has their own category. Please reconsider doing the same with the OD topic which is spinning out of control and making so many of us question if we made a mistake buying the 1.5L turbo.

Thanks for listening.

 

[jtuber]

Trying to put every post on this topic together is a really bad idea and as Dans15 said it just creates a mess for anyone trying to track what is going on. If you really want to create something useful then start a thread asking the club for suggestions on topics for an organized sub-set that would be truly useful in following each topic.

I want to follow the results of people who have had the fix. I know there is a poll but it is not being used. I counted at least 18 owners who have reported the are experiencing worse conditions, heat or oil, since having the fix. The poll doesn't list them because they were posting on a thread with a heading to let them tell their story.

I want to see factual numbers from people who have had oil analysis.

I want to see a thread where people can toss out their ideas on why this engine is not living up to the normal Honda standards.

I want to see a thread that shares what dealers are telling owners who have this problem.

I could go on. My point is this topic needs to be organized into sub-topics that people can follow based upon their interest. That is the basic concept why each generation of CR-V's has their own category. Please reconsider doing the same with the OD topic which is spinning out of control and making so many of us question if we made a mistake buying the 1.5L turbo.

Thanks for listening.

Being a member who has the oil dilution problem (initially and then went away and now might be back after the fix) and the new issue of no heat after the fix, I am interested in reading any and all members' posts on their issues to see if any new developments/progresses/issues were made. So that's the reason why I've been paying that much attention to this website, more than I should be. Why would I want to go here if Honda is as trouble free and as reliable as they said? The OD issue was what getting me to this site and stuck to this site. Beyond that, if it was a fun/performance car (read BMW/Corvette etc) site and not a Honda SUV, then I would visit for mods ideas. Who the heck would mod their utilitarian CRV?

 

[Jst_Bcuz]

This is a bit simplistic but here goes. The PCV system on the 1.5 turbo is a bidirectional system consisting of two oil air separators. One for the intake manifold the other for the turbo charger. When the intake manifold pressure is below the pressure at the intake of the turbo. Air travels from the turbo intake via a crankcase breather tube into the crankcase, then to the intake manifold. Under turbo boost the air direction reverses. The oil air separators are built into the top engine cover. View attachment 128063

Thank you Traylaw. It maybe simplistic but it makes perfect sense.

 

[boooey]

Guys stop it with the "fanboy" comments already. Your just adding fuel to the fire.
I am certainly not a fanboy of any brand or company. Why would I be unless I am personally linked to them in some way.

We just need an Issues sub forum to discuss any issues people are having with their crv.
Or just break out into several sub forums.

1. Issues
2. Mods / Accessories
3. General

It's not rocket science guys.. geeze

 

[Traylaw]

Jst_Bcuz, in the photo of the engine cover, the yellow arrows are pointing to the oil air separator chambers. The separator for the turbo intake is the lower arrow, the intake manafold is the upper arrow. The gray tube at the upper right goes to the intake manafold. The little yellow thingy at the upper left is the PCV valve. The breather tube is not shown but attaches to the engine cover at the lower left. You can see this tube on your vehicle connected between the cover and the air intake duct just before the turbo.