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What yr is your CRV?
In the 2005 Honda CRV owner's manual it says to change the motor oil at 10k miles or one yr and to change the oil filter at 20k miles or 1yr. (page 187)
Way too long for me!!!
That is with conventional oil and the standard OEM Honda oil filter.
Amsoil has a damn good reputation, overall. But, if you use the recommended API oil (5w20 conventional or synthetic ,page 193)) , it should do just fine in wear protection and mpg. I use a full synthetic like Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum etc just for my own personal peace of mind. (5qt jug of either at Walmart is usually only around $25). I believe that a synthetic might give slightly better mpg, much better startup protection,much better wear protection at very low and very high temp and also keeps an engine cleaner.
Since I only drive around 8k miles a yr, oil and filter cost is not a real concern. ( I also use a Fram Ultra-guard oil filter and change it with each oil change)
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Yeap I don't care what a manual says I will NEVER go that long between changes. I go between 5 and 6k running sythetic. 3-4k on conventional. Never cared for the claims of oil life and such, the maintenance lights and so on because every engine I have dealt with in my years as a mechanic have been nasty inside doing long intervals/only changing when light comes on.
Everyone is making a "long lasting" oil these days.
As long as your dealing with a reputable brand synthetic oil your good to go.
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Everyone is making a "long lasting" oil these days.
As long as your dealing with a reputable brand synthetic oil your good to go.
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Been running fully synthetic in my cars for the past two decades, 9 or 12k interval depending on the car. Never needed to top up any of them between changes, even at near 200k mileage.
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I put some synthetic Amsoil (motorcycle oil) in one of my Ducati's once and it made a real difference from the Mobil1 I was using.
The engine sounded and felt smoother, and I was very impressed with it's performance.
I could, perhaps, note the change fairly easily since motorcycles are so very basic - two wheels, an engine in-between them and you sit above the engine...
I would have continued using the oil but I met the soon to be wife, sold the motorcycles, bought our first house and rarely miss them.
Amsoil in this CR-V? I have not been happy with 'Honda' oil and actually had an oil change with Mobil1 (5-20W) today and the VTM-4 fluid changed as well ($112.50 with a 10% off coupon). If the Mobil1 helps the oil dilution (of which I have VERY little of) and the lingering smell of gas in the oil I will continue with it. If I still have a lingering odor of gasoline in the oil we will then try Amsoil.
Time will tell. I really do not care about the price (I pay extra for ethanol free fuel) it's peanuts in the long run if it preforms better, and this car is a 'keeper.'
Very happy with Mobil1 in my Ridgeline.
The engine sounded and felt smoother, and I was very impressed with it's performance.
I could, perhaps, note the change fairly easily since motorcycles are so very basic - two wheels, an engine in-between them and you sit above the engine...
I would have continued using the oil but I met the soon to be wife, sold the motorcycles, bought our first house and rarely miss them.
Amsoil in this CR-V? I have not been happy with 'Honda' oil and actually had an oil change with Mobil1 (5-20W) today and the VTM-4 fluid changed as well ($112.50 with a 10% off coupon). If the Mobil1 helps the oil dilution (of which I have VERY little of) and the lingering smell of gas in the oil I will continue with it. If I still have a lingering odor of gasoline in the oil we will then try Amsoil.
Time will tell. I really do not care about the price (I pay extra for ethanol free fuel) it's peanuts in the long run if it preforms better, and this car is a 'keeper.'
Very happy with Mobil1 in my Ridgeline.
Remember Tigris99, Honda's recommendations were for when dealing with conventional oil and the standard Honda OEM oil filter, not long life oils or filters.
And, I'll bet those that followed that probably got great mileage life on their engines anyways.
But, I sure wouldn't follow those Honda recommendations. Have to chuckle when folks say "Honda knows best. They designed those vehicles".
Just like Honda recommending to only use their Honda Z-1 ATF, even in the heavier Odyssey!!
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I started running Amsoil in my Corolla last year. Ran it 10k and changed it. Level was exactly where it was when I filled it on the last change. Since then, I've put it in the CRV. Over the 10k oil change interval I would always have to add 1 to 1.5 quarts. There are no leaks either. I'm curious to see if I still have to top up before the next oil change with the Amsoil. Dropped the transmission pan on the Corolla a few months ago and swapped the filter and filled it back up with Amsoil ATF. Made a noticeable improvement. Toyota likes their "lifetime" fluids, but I think their idea of lifetime is 10 years/100k miles. The car currently has 213k miles on it.
I'm seriously considering running it in my '18 Accord. It seems you get less oil vapor with Amsoil and given that these new engines are DI, I think it would help with buildup on the valves. I think I would also feel better with a good synthetic oil with the turbo as well.
I'm seriously considering running it in my '18 Accord. It seems you get less oil vapor with Amsoil and given that these new engines are DI, I think it would help with buildup on the valves. I think I would also feel better with a good synthetic oil with the turbo as well.
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Why isn't Amsoil available in the big box stores? If it was readily available, maybe I would try it.... especially if they did a rebate.
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Probably because the big box stores don't fit the Amsoil business model.
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I just met a local AMS oil dealer, sadly just changed the oil in both Honda's.
I will NEVER EVER OUT VALVOLINE IN ANOTHER ENGINE IN MY LIFE though. Decided to give Valvoline another shot, went normal 6 months about 6500 miles on the Odyssey and the week before it gets all pissed off. Thought I was having timing belt tensioner issue or something else timing belt related though just done by Honda (dealership that did it I trust explicitly, know some guys there) about 30k ago. Nope the system for ECO mode was freaking the hell out and making a ton of noise. Changed the oil which helped, half a can of seafoam in it now and back to normal. Drive for about another week or 2 with Mobil 1 being it it with the seafoam then change again.
Every damn time I give Valvoline synthetic a chance it disappoints the hell out of me. Never again. Just going sticking to AMS or Mobil 1 from now on.
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I will NEVER EVER OUT VALVOLINE IN ANOTHER ENGINE IN MY LIFE though. Decided to give Valvoline another shot, went normal 6 months about 6500 miles on the Odyssey and the week before it gets all pissed off. Thought I was having timing belt tensioner issue or something else timing belt related though just done by Honda (dealership that did it I trust explicitly, know some guys there) about 30k ago. Nope the system for ECO mode was freaking the hell out and making a ton of noise. Changed the oil which helped, half a can of seafoam in it now and back to normal. Drive for about another week or 2 with Mobil 1 being it it with the seafoam then change again.
Every damn time I give Valvoline synthetic a chance it disappoints the hell out of me. Never again. Just going sticking to AMS or Mobil 1 from now on.
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In my 2011, which I purchased 2nd-hand 3 yrs ago, I have been using M1 AFE. I decided to use this Valvoline since it had a rebate a few months ago and noticed a quieter engine. The oil is still clean and I noticed nothing out of the ordinary. I only put 2.5K to 3K miles a year and do 1 yr OCI.
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For the same reason you don't see Amway products in stores. Same business model.
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Strange that you are having problems with the Valvoline Synthetic of the same viscosity and API rating of the Mobil 1 you use. ( at least I am assuming it is)
Any idea why? Cleaning additives, viscosity etc. ? Still, some think Mobil 1 is crap. I have had good luck with Mobil 1 synthetic, Pennzoil Platinum and Valvoline Synthetic.
Two questions:
1) What oil filter were you using and was it the same brand and type for each
2)Was the oil you drained out before adding the Valvoline Oil really black and cruddy?
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I would think any 0-20w Full Synthetic oil is about the same. Have not done any research, guess I should go over to BobsTheOilGuy and see.
I've been using Mobile 1 cause they sell it at Costco, also used Honda brand once, was not terribly expensive.
I've been using Mobile 1 cause they sell it at Costco, also used Honda brand once, was not terribly expensive.
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I have overseen the maintenance of my own, my family's and our company's vehicle maintenance for the past three decades. I have never had any oil-related issues ever with any of the vehicles, including high mileage (200+) ones. My old motorcycle does have a preference tho, but it's an isolated case.
I've used all major brands, perhaps ten different ones.
I've used all major brands, perhaps ten different ones.
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