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Rear differential fluid change

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How many miles were on your CR-V when you got the "rear differential" code?

I just got the B16 code. (about 13k on the odometer)

I'd just like to see where I am.

If you did service it, did you let the dealership do it or a trusted Honda shop?
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After looking at Pearl's photos, refilling the fluid looks a bit tricky requiring some hose to reach the fill hole. Is that still the case for a 2013 CR-V?
I also followed Black Pearl's photo eassay (thanks BP!!) It wasn't that difficult. I did it solo...what I did was place the hose through the (Driver's side rear) wheel and routed it into the filler hole. I made sure the funnel was secured into the hose, then popped open the fuel door and clipped the funnel to it (first time) , 2nd time I just decided to use "duct tape" to hold funnel to the fuel door. Really fast job and saved lots of $$$$ which is always a plus!! When you actually do it, it wasn't difficult.... as w/me , reading and thinking about how it was done was more time consuming and "difficult", LOL!!
this job was so easy, you barely need to jack up your car, but do anyway,or use ramps. best tool is a little hand pumpwith hoses, i got one at $ store for $2.99, drained out oil, put stem of pump in oil bottle, tube in fill hole ,pumped it empty in less than 1min. opened next bottle and literally 1 oz. into it, fluid started coming out of fill hole. whole job, less than 20 minutes. haven't had diff, groan since then. whole job with fluid, crush washer and pump less than $20. not bad.
Caspar, can you post a link to something similar to what you picked up at the $ store?
What's the torque setting on drain plugs
Have a 2012 ex-l thinking about trying myself and save some money


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What's the torque setting on drain plugs
Have a 2012 ex-l thinking about trying myself and save some money
All of that information is in the sticky note at the top of this forum. It describes a 2007 model, but the process for your 2012 is identical. And to save you the trip, it is 35 ft-lbs.
Dealership is telling me to chg rear diff at 30k they want $69.99. We have a 2011 crv bought new. They also recommended transmission fluid too which I know is a bit premature, the vehicle is driven in mostly "normal" conditions. I'm here for an oil chg (my crv uses the 0 weight synthetic stuff), so I told them yes on the differential fluid but no on the transmission ( they wanted $79.99) for the trams. The dealership is Honda North in Butler PA. Hope $69.99 isn't a rip for differential drain and fill but I really don't want to mess with it myself, so $25 for parts and the hassle might be worth it.. Crazy though that they recommend transmission fluid chg at 30k.
Dealership is telling me to chg rear diff at 30k they want $69.99. We have a 2011 crv bought new. They also recommended transmission fluid too which I know is a bit premature, the vehicle is driven in mostly "normal" conditions. Crazy though that they recommend transmission fluid chg at 30k.
I think they are looking to Flush your wallet! :mad:
It is not crazy at all to do a drain and fill of the transmission fluid every 30k . It takes about 3.5 qts and is very easy to do.
Just some extra info. I have a 2009 and today at 51000 had the diff fluid change. I asked the dealer why this was necessary since I never got a maintenance code. His response was that if you don't let the oil monitor get to the 15% point so that maintenance minders appear, you never get the 6 code for this maintenance. Looking at the owners manual, there is no indication that fluid should be changed ever 15,000 miles (shame on Honda for not making this clear and shame on the dealer for not mentioning this since they have performed many services between 15k and 50k). Anyway, hope this didn't ruin the car. Don't seem to be having any problems. Has anyone else let this service go this long? By the way, the dealer charged about $70 to do this, kind of pricey for 2 washers and some fluid.
You should be fine. Sometimes if you turn the wheel to the left or right, the rear end would shudder but if you never got that then you'll be fine. Fluid was probably still good. $70 is very reasonable.
Just some extra info. I have a 2009 and today at 51000 had the diff fluid change. I asked the dealer why this was necessary since I never got a maintenance code. His response was that if you don't let the oil monitor get to the 15% point so that maintenance minders appear, you never get the 6 code for this maintenance. Looking at the owners manual, there is no indication that fluid should be changed ever 15,000 miles (shame on Honda for not making this clear and shame on the dealer for not mentioning this since they have performed many services between 15k and 50k). Anyway, hope this didn't ruin the car. Don't seem to be having any problems. Has anyone else let this service go this long? By the way, the dealer charged about $70 to do this, kind of pricey for 2 washers and some fluid.
And a portion of the overhead cost of running and maintaining a dealership + profit.
I changed mine for the first time at 17,500 not getting a MM. There was lots of residue on the drain plug. It was a simple change with my small electric oil pump. The actual fluid in took about 4 minutes. It took exactly 42 ounces.
The plugs came loose with the rachet square in and one hammer blow. It was fun to be able to perform a task so easy. I will probably do it every 25,000 miles or to coincide with an oil change as I have a lift I put her onto.
Yikes!

I changed mine for the first time at 17,500 not getting a MM. There was lots of residue on the drain plug. It was a simple change with my small electric oil pump. The actual fluid in took about 4 minutes. It took exactly 42 ounces.
The plugs came loose with the rachet square in and one hammer blow. It was fun to be able to perform a task so easy. I will probably do it every 25,000 miles or to coincide with an oil change as I have a lift I put her onto.
Sitting at Honda dealer now getting state inspection. They told me I need the rear differential changed and it is $160! Whaaa?! I am female and sorry to say I have no tools to do this job. Can I take it to like a jiffy lube to have it done for cheaper???
Sitting at Honda dealer now getting state inspection. They told me I need the rear differential changed and it is $160! Whaaa?! I am female and sorry to say I have no tools to do this job. Can I take it to like a jiffy lube to have it done for cheaper???
You could, I would talk to them first and see what the labor would be if you supplied the fluid, I would not let them supply it, it is a specific fluid.
Stop by the parts dept. and pick up Dual Pump II fluid.
On average, I would expect a dealer price for a rear diff change to be in the $100-$120 range. $160 is a touch high but not obscene.
Caspar, can you post a link to something similar to what you picked up at the $ store?
This is the one I bought, it worked very well and seemed like it only took a few pumps to empty the first quart.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Pump-Fluid-Lubricant/_/R-VAR818_0006560565


Just some extra info. I have a 2009 and today at 51000 had the diff fluid change. I asked the dealer why this was necessary since I never got a maintenance code. His response was that if you don't let the oil monitor get to the 15% point so that maintenance minders appear, you never get the 6 code for this maintenance. Looking at the owners manual, there is no indication that fluid should be changed ever 15,000 miles (shame on Honda for not making this clear and shame on the dealer for not mentioning this since they have performed many services between 15k and 50k). Anyway, hope this didn't ruin the car. Don't seem to be having any problems. Has anyone else let this service go this long? By the way, the dealer charged about $70 to do this, kind of pricey for 2 washers and some fluid.
Not sure if the 09 MM is different or not, but on the 12 if you go to menu, then maintenance info, it tells you the remaining oil life and if you scroll down a little bit it gives you the code and sub-codes that will be due. A1, B16, etc. but no need at all to ever let it get down to 15% to see the codes.

Mine showed up at around 16k, so I went by the Honda dealer and picked up a couple quarts of fluid and a half dozen each of the 18mm and 20mm crush washers. Went by NAPA and picked up the hand pump above, rolled it up on ramps and changed it in about an hour. It would have been 20 min, but the pump I bought had a leaky seal and that fluid is so slick I couldn't operate that pump with it all over my hands. Had to clean up and run back to NAPA for a replacement, then home and finished the job. Torque on both plugs was 35 ft/lb.

Can't stress enough though, if you do this yourself, REMOVE THE FILL PLUG FIRST!
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I have a 2012 CRV that started making a croaking sound in the rear a few months ago at around 38,000 miles. Took it to the dealer and was told it was dirt in the brakes and not to worry about it. I mentioned the rear differential problems cited online and they basically dismissed it. Well, right now (a month later) my car is at another Honda dealer because the AWD light is on. Guess what? When the AWD light came on the noise stopped. Coincidence? I think not. They ran diagnostics and got a few codes, one being an overheating code. They flushed the rear diff fluids, and the overheating code is gone. But the AWD light is still on and they are still getting 2 codes that they tell me they've never seen before. They now want my service records because Honda needs to rule out owner error/misuse as they proceed with what they think could be a costly repair, depending on what Honda tells them to do. They mentioned possibly replacing the rear diff altogether. I am not a happy customer. I bought it used at 31,000 and have had it maintained for everything that has come up so far on the maintenance minder (oil change and tire rotation so far). I gave them documentation of that as well as the document from the other dealer stating I brought it in for the "croaking' noise a month ago. If Honda tries to make me pay for these repairs, I will be fighting them on it. Honda should be better than this. Any thoughts on this?
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If the rear diffy doesn't make a rubbing, howling, or screeching type sound when doing slow tight turns, it doesn't really need the fluid to be changed, at least not urgently. The dealer is probably just going by the maintenance schedule. What yr is it? The total fluid cost is less than $25. Yes, use Honda DP2 fluid.
Any high school kid or handy neighbor that has a 3/8" ratchet should be able to do it. All you need extra is a small manual hand pump that fits the qt bottle top (around $5-6) and a short piece (if the pump doesn't come with one) of tubing.
A friend on mine had a 2000 crv and he didn't change the diffy oil for over 100k miles and just one change stopped the screeching/rubbing sound with no apparent damage to the diffy.
Buffalo4
Update: Heard from the dealer today. It needs a whole new rear diffential. Cost is about $3,000. Honda is covering it under the 5/60 powertrain warranty. I am relieved and my faith in Honda is restored.
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