[billyrule]

Hey Gang,

Has anyone received a letter called , "Honda CR-V Automatic Braking — Class Action Investigation"

I am happy with my 2017 CRV but it looks like an Attorney Firm is asking questions. I don't know how they got my info. Below is a copy of the letter --

----letter starts---------
Attorneys with Gibbs Law Group LLP are investigating a Honda CR-V automatic brake system lawsuit after complaints from drivers about potential defects in the Honda Sensing system in 2017-2018 Honda CR-Vs. Drivers have reported that the CR-V's automated brakes unexpectedly engage at highway speeds, endangering Honda drivers, passengers, and others on the road.

Numerous Honda drivers nationwide have filed complaints with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about unexpected sudden braking. Some drivers have reported a number of near-miss accidents after the braking system activated unexpectedly.

If you have experienced problems with the Honda Sensing system in your Honda CR-V, including problems with the collision mitigation braking system, road departure mitigation system, lane keeping assist system, or other issues, the auto defect attorneys at Gibbs Law Group are interested in speaking with you.

---letter ends----

 

[fishycomics]

well keep us all posted on this one

 

[mnestrud]

Hey Gang,

Has anyone received a letter called , "Honda CR-V Automatic Braking — Class Action Investigation"

I am happy with my 2017 CRV but it looks like an Attorney Firm is asking questions. I don't know how they got my info. Below is a copy of the letter --

----letter starts---------

---letter ends----

IF and I don't know this is the case here, but if a judge hears the case and certifies it as a class action, then there's an obligation by the opposing party to take reasonable measures to contact all affected customers.

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[williamsji]

IF and I don't know this is the case here, but if a judge hears the case and certifies it as a class action, then there's an obligation by the opposing party to take reasonable measures to contact all affected customers.

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This is my understanding as well. The class action attorney can petition for a list of all owners and their addresses from Honda via a court filing.

Having owned various Hondas for more then 20 years now... I get one of these every now and then... out of nowhere. Last one was for the Takata airbag recall, and before that I got one regarding the AC system in my 2008 CRV. I put them both in the trash bin.

Basically they want to get as many consenting participants in the class action as they can.. so they go scavenging... though in fairness.. sometimes the court orders them to so as well. I think some of these firms farm the consumer complaints with department of transportation as their starting point and then try to get class actions certified.

As to this particular class action as you described it.... I have only had my automatic braking misfire one time since I received my 2017 CRV. It was on a city street though, not the freeway. And while it startled me when it happened, I quickly observed why it did so ---> bright sunlight suddenly reflected off the back window of a vehicle about 200 ft in front of me. I know this because that same reflection kind of blinded me for a second or two as well. In my view, even though it was a false positive... the system erred on the side of "better safe then sorry".

 

[wlong01]

Hey Gang,

Has anyone received a letter called , "Honda CR-V Automatic Braking — Class Action Investigation"

I am happy with my 2017 CRV but it looks like an Attorney Firm is asking questions. I don't know how they got my info. Below is a copy of the letter --

----letter starts---------
Attorneys with Gibbs Law Group LLP are investigating a Honda CR-V automatic brake system lawsuit after complaints from drivers about potential defects in the Honda Sensing system in 2017-2018 Honda CR-Vs. Drivers have reported that the CR-V's automated brakes unexpectedly engage at highway speeds, endangering Honda drivers, passengers, and others on the road.

Numerous Honda drivers nationwide have filed complaints with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about unexpected sudden braking. Some drivers have reported a number of near-miss accidents after the braking system activated unexpectedly.

If you have experienced problems with the Honda Sensing system in your Honda CR-V, including problems with the collision mitigation braking system, road departure mitigation system, lane keeping assist system, or other issues, the auto defect attorneys at Gibbs Law Group are interested in speaking with you.

---letter ends----

The way they got your info is called Discovery. Honda had to provide the info the the law firm.

 

[az_crv]

I wouldn't expect Honda to provide customer info out of the blue especially for customers not having issues. I would bet the law firm used an auto sales data mining service where customer info is available for a fee.

 

[fubarnow]

Let's see, you get 500 dollars and The Lawyer get 5 Million.
That's a No Class Action.

 

[williamsji]

Let's see, you get 500 dollars and The Lawyer get 5 Million.
That's a No Class Action.

Indeed. Which is why I always throw these in the trash. The more people the attorneys get to sign-on.. the more fees the laywers ultimately collect from Honda. People have to understand that the lawyers are not farming for class sign-ups because they actually care about the individual consumer... they are doing it because if they win they get all there court fees (padded through the roof I bet) and they get effectively a huge lump sum from the number of members they attach to the class.

Besides.. if the lawsuit prevails... it will force Honda to notify all owners (regardless if they are in the class or not) about the judgement and what they have been ordered by the court to do in terms of remedy. So.. should the lawsuit succeed, all owners will get a letter from Honda for a recall/fix to satisfy the court. Personally, I have had a few of these over the years, one from Ford, one from Mazda, and one from Honda. Basically it is a form of court ordered recall and fix (and/or reimbursement if you already paid for a fix, and have receipts as proof).

 

[hans471+]

I toss those things. I recall one on computer hard drives. The lawyers got like five million bucks, those of us affected got a certificate for five bucks off a new hard drive. What a deal!

Clearly the lawyers are fishing for more bait. They need more people so they can develop a "class" meaning more money for them. If the problem was so wide spread as they would want you to think they would likely have more people than they need to move ahead and wouldn't have to go beat the bushes for suckers....I mean Owners...to make their case.

 

[eric90278]

I looked it up on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website and there has been one complaint and it sounds like it was resolved. I find it very disgraceful that law firms try to use people so that they can make money from the manufacturers when there is not even a problem.

 

[LQQK_OUT]

I find it very disgraceful that law firms try to use people so that they can make money from the manufacturers when there is not even a problem.

If it weren't for my lawyer, I'd still be in prison.
It went a lot faster with two people digging.

 

[Wombat]

This is my understanding as well. The class action attorney can petition for a list of all owners and their addresses from Honda via a court filing.

Having owned various Hondas for more then 20 years now... I get one of these every now and then... out of nowhere. Last one was for the Takata airbag recall, and before that I got one regarding the AC system in my 2008 CRV. I put them both in the trash bin.

Basically they want to get as many consenting participants in the class action as they can.. so they go scavenging... though in fairness.. sometimes the court orders them to so as well. I think some of these firms farm the consumer complaints with department of transportation as their starting point and then try to get class actions certified.

As to this particular class action as you described it.... I have only had my automatic braking misfire one time since I received my 2017 CRV. It was on a city street though, not the freeway. And while it startled me when it happened, I quickly observed why it did so ---> bright sunlight suddenly reflected off the back window of a vehicle about 200 ft in front of me. I know this because that same reflection kind of blinded me for a second or two as well. In my view, even though it was a false positive... the system erred on the side of "better safe then sorry".

This is why I think driverless cars are still a fair way off being seen on the road. There is no way known AI can account for every oddity in our everyday lives, human intervention will be needed at some point. :jawdrop:

My CRV's front and rear sensors went ballistic yesterday when I drove onto an allotment with sparsely growing knee high grass on it.
Do I trust my front & rear sensors, not a lot, I still prefer to use my mirrors and my own judgement of what I consider a safe distance.

 

[mnestrud]

This is why I think driverless cars are still a fair way off being seen on the road. There is no way known AI can account for every oddity in our everyday lives, human intervention will be needed at some point. :jawdrop:
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Agree and the other part of this is the human adaptation to the technology and it's limitations. The inability of the radar to see in bad weather is an example of something that folks don't always understand. A benefit of the slow rate of technology advancing is the slow rate of human learning how to use said technology.

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[wyattb]

If you signed the binding arbitration clause when you purchased the vehicle, you are out of luck with class lawsuits.

 

[CRV&PilotFamily]

Let's see, you get 500 dollars and The Lawyer get 5 Million.
That's a No Class Action.

That about sums it up. Many years ago when I had my former 1995 Volvo 850 Turbo I bought new, I got a notice of a class action lawsuit. Some woman damaged a tire in hers and didn't like the cost of replacing it. The OEM tires were specific to the 850 Turbo and a Ferrari model. They were high performance tires, meaning they did not provide a long mileage life and were expensive. I had damaged a sidewall and I had to replace one. I commented to the tire dealer about the high cost of the tire. He just said, "Be glad you don't own a Corvette." I never thought about suing Volvo. Anyway, I had already replaced all the tires. The lawsuit settlement was a tire replacement, IIRC, or $500. I took the $500. The lawyers got several million. I'm sure it was cheaper for Volvo to settle than fight the suit in court, even if they wold have won.

 

[Buran]

I had an incidence of auto-braking while moving at 50 mph, but I tapped the brake pedal to override and then accelerated again -- the only thing the driver behind me saw was an odd brake light flash.

Pretty sure it was a shadow on the roadway that caused the confusion -- sometimes the lane departure warning is confused by overpass shadows, but I just steer through.

It seems to me that the right solution there isn't a lawsuit but to have the radar look for an object as a backup. No object detected? Don't brake.

 

[HOTELLJACK1]

I also have received this e-mail but at this time I have not had this particular issue. I do know that if you are driving with cruise control engaged & make a quick lane change into another lane behind a closer car, the automatic braking will activate. I wonder if that is what they are doing?

 

[jimbob15]

It's another way for lawyers to make money. It doesn't mean you will. They earned a degree and license. It's what they were trained to do. Just don't expect to receive much of whatever settlement there might be. It's all about the money.

 

[britelite]

Hey Gang,

Has anyone received a letter called , "Honda CR-V Automatic Braking — Class Action Investigation"

I am happy with my 2017 CRV but it looks like an Attorney Firm is asking questions. I don't know how they got my info. Below is a copy of the letter --

----letter starts---------
Attorneys with Gibbs Law Group LLP are investigating a Honda CR-V automatic brake system lawsuit after complaints from drivers about potential defects in the Honda Sensing system in 2017-2018 Honda CR-Vs. Drivers have reported that the CR-V's automated brakes unexpectedly engage at highway speeds, endangering Honda drivers, passengers, and others on the road.

Numerous Honda drivers nationwide have filed complaints with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about unexpected sudden braking. Some drivers have reported a number of near-miss accidents after the braking system activated unexpectedly.

If you have experienced problems with the Honda Sensing system in your Honda CR-V, including problems with the collision mitigation braking system, road departure mitigation system, lane keeping assist system, or other issues, the auto defect attorneys at Gibbs Law Group are interested in speaking with you.

---letter ends----

I have actually had this issue twice. I wasn't going fast either time but I was in downtown Houston one of the times and in a parking garage the other time. Thanks for the info.

 

[JB in AZ]

I also have received this e-mail but at this time I have not had this particular issue. I do know that if you are driving with cruise control engaged & make a quick lane change into another lane behind a closer car, the automatic braking will activate. I wonder if that is what they are doing?

Yes, this is an intended action, to keep the following distance the driver has set...if the car in the new lane is closer than what the following distance is set to, the CR-V will brake.

In regards to the behavior that was mentioned in the possible class action: I have experienced, as have others here, where the CR-V will brake hard, when the car you are following turns right, and has obviously left your path, a situation where any normal driver WOULD NOT brake, yet the CR-V brakes hard. I have learned to mostly avoid this. BTW My '19 RDX has the same behavior.