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In wanting to accomplish some changes on my 2014 Honda CRV. I noticed some of the original Push Pins holding the plastic panels together underneath the car had some broken legs when removed. They appeared as never pulled before. Would be nice to replace with new pins. The cost at the Honda shop is just a insult to me, no more words needed.

So I bought some 10mm Push Pins from a e-bay seller. $4.94 for a bag of 100. On first exam they looked great. But before I use them for replacements I wanted to see how they worked. So I simulated the proper thickness material with a 10mm hole and pushed it in place and then set they center piece down. And they locked in place and held just fine. So let's see how they pull out for repairs. And that is where the problem is, they just do not pull out even using a proper puller.
This is the sellers write up:


Package Included:
100Pcs 10mm Hole Auto Plastic Rivet Fastener Mud Flaps Bumper Fender Push Clips

Specification:
Head Diameter 20mm/0.8"
Total Length 25mm/1"
Stem Lengh 13mm/0.52"
Fit Hole Diameter 10mm/0.4"

Descriptions:
Rivet post pressure expands legs for fast and permanent fastening.
Used widel for car&truck fender,bumper,door or other car surface.
Push in design, fit 10mm/0.4inch hole


Notice I skipped over the word PERMANENT in his description when shopping.

Contacted the seller and explained how they just would not pull out with any normal method and here is his reply.


Good evening, sorry for the late reply.
the 10mm clip is use for pin in . if you can pin in , there will be no problem.
this clip we design is hard to remove because we have to make sure the clips will be 100% pin in and firm .
anyway, it can be remove but hard with the tool like you said.


Screw Auto part Wheel Metal Fastener


I would clearly make known now that at least 90% would need to be drilled out to not damage the material they are holding together. A quick snap pull or a slow steady pull made no difference. As can be clearly seen a mistake in my selection of Push Pins was made. And what a head ache this would make for any repairman following the use of these pins. Glad the push pins where first tested and not used for replacements.

But that leaves me with this question, if you do have actual personal firsthand experience in buying replacement push pins at a reasonable price, that work correctly for disassembly as well as holding would you please share your contact?
 

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I just ordered a box of assorted sizes from Amazon.
I ALWAYS read customer reviews of a product I'm considering.
Helps to sort out the junk from the more quality items.
The box I ordered has 10mm 9, 8 and 7 as the car uses various sizes
and it's good to have them on hand.
I getting ready to pull my bumper and grill and use all new fasteners
since I've had AC work done and was not happy with the way they
put the front back to together.
I rarely buy anything from e-bay unless I really trust the seller.
 

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I’ve got an assortment from amazon too. Sounds similar to what you bought. I haven’t had any issues with them yet.
 

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You have a bag of 100, so if they fit snug you should be fine. When you need it off, simply destroy it.
Alternatively, you might get the part number from the dealer and go shopping. You might also try a different dealer.
 

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Fubarnow,
Thank you for your reply and showing me just what I need. That is what I call an answer. Will order as soon as get the order up to $25 for the free shipping.
Mean while a tool was made to help remove a pin that just will not release. Used a old 9/32 drill bit, shortened for handedness and resharpened with a pointy point with web relief to make for easy drilling in plastic. A positive stop was pressed in place so over drilling is under control. At least this will remove them if they just do not unlatch.


Tool Tool accessory Cutting tool


Tool accessory Tool
 

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Wow...

Ok so people are going about this all wrong.

No need to destroy clips, sure as heck don't use a drill. That a great way to destroy something.

Spend a few bucks and buy a set of push pin PLIERS!!!

ABN | Push Pin Pliers – 30 Degree Plastic Fastener Remover Tool, Snap Rings and Body Clip Removal Tool, Rivet Puller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JVV65QN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_sbuSCbS2XJ5Y4


You pull the center out (have to do from both sides or they don't come out, hence the pliers not the tool shown, that's for standard ones that have no removeable/reuseable center peace).

Then pull the clip out and set aside.

As I said not uncommon to break one once in a while spares are good but all this craziness instead of buying a special pair of pliers that's under $10 doesn't make sense to me.

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Wow...

Ok so people are going about this all wrong.

No need to destroy clips, sure as heck don't use a drill. That a great way to destroy something.

Spend a few bucks and buy a set of push pin PLIERS!!!

ABN | Push Pin Pliers – 30 Degree Plastic Fastener Remover Tool, Snap Rings and Body Clip Removal Tool, Rivet Puller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JVV65QN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_sbuSCbS2XJ5Y4


You pull the center out (have to do from both sides or they don't come out, hence the pliers not the tool shown, that's for standard ones that have no removeable/reuseable center peace).

Then pull the clip out and set aside.

As I said not uncommon to break one once in a while spares are good but all this craziness instead of buying a special pair of pliers that's under $10 doesn't make sense to me.

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Tigris99, Kind of oblivious you did not read my opening post. Yes I have the proper pliers for removal. Yes I did make a mistake in buying the wrong type, They are different in that they push in and lock and then will not let go to be pulled out. They are different than any other pins in that respect. If you had one to work with you would understand. Any other pins I have worked with pull so easy, so can understand your disbelief. I was completely surprised because of the two relief grooves for pulling, but they are as close to a permanent assembly. As far as the tool I made most anybody could use, as it designed to be easy to center and depth has built in control. But only you know your skill level, so maybe it does look dangerous to you.
 

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I did miss parts of the post. I do apologize for not wording better due to that. Glad to see people putting real thought into solutions for their issues versus being your typical back yard hacks (which is what my reply was addressing). If there is one thing I actually hate about being a mechanic for a living, dealing with a car that hacks have touched. To the point we charge extra for dealing with undoing messes prior to repairs.

Drilling out for me wouldnt be an issue but never have I had to grab a drill for push pins. Used a drill bit to push out the center of the style that are a tiny pin (more or less a plastic rivet) when I can't find my straight pick.

I take my panels off pretty regularly on my CRV due to working on the offroad lights or other mods. Most common apart with ease with just a small flat screw driver. There is a few that break occasionally (I have a big bag of them off Amazon for that reason) in the grill area due to such a tight fit. Haven't broke one since I bought a set of pliers for home (have a couple at the shop) except one when taking my back bumper off the first time.

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It's also good to have replacements since I have found that some types of plastic get brittle over time, and even proper tools can cause old plastic to split.

I need to order a kit like that myself, now that I think of it.
 
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