I have multiple sets of the Kumho Solus TA11 on our cars, including one of our '09s. No issues whatsoever--they're quiet, have plenty of grip and ride well. My latest set was the Kumho Crugen HP71 on my own '09, which is also a good choice and supposedly designed for SUVs.Im looking at the Kumho Solus TA11 or Pirelli Scorpion Verde all season plus. Both are not that expensive
and they both have good reviews.
The latest recommendation from the experts is to put the best tires on the rear even with a FWD vehicle. FWD, AWD, 4WD, car, truck or SUV. Doesn't matter.I was planning on just changing the front tires and see how the feel before I commit to all 4.
Because tires wear differently front and back, and not just due to weight distribution. If that were the case, we would simply do as you say--move the rear tires to the front, and buy new ones for the rear.Why do we continue to rotate our tires if the tires with the most tread belong on the rear?
In terms of rear end traction on wet/snowy roads (something that some parts of the country experience more than others) which would you prefer on the rear: Less wear and squared shoulders or more wear and rounded shoulders?Because tires wear differently front and back, and not just due to weight distribution. If that were the case, we would simply do as you say--move the rear tires to the front, and buy new ones for the rear.
Consider this.
The front wheels steer the car, and are subject to all sorts of different angles during use. (Turn them hard left, then go out and look at the odd angles they sit at.) The shoulders of the tire tread wear become somewhat more rounded.
The rear wheels on the other hand are largely stationary, not moving in any way except up and down. They tend to wear straight across, and the shoulders of the tire tread will be more squared off.
Same question applies.On top of this, consider minor alignment issues and suspension wear, to where bushings and other components dry rot and/or loosen up over time. Rear tires on these CR-Vs are prone to cupping issues (both of my '09s do it to some degree, even after a 4-wheel alignment), so rotation needs to happen regularly to lessen the effects of cupping.
I agree about good tires on all four corners - in a perfect world, that is. However, the OP is talking about buying only 2 and putting them on the front. That I don't agree with.For what it's worth, I totally do not buy into this "better tire on front" (or rear). All four corners need good, equal tires, especially if we expect ABS and VSA to work properly. Rotation keeps them as equal as can be expected. Treadwear is more evenly balanced throughout the set when they are rotated. It also solves the dilemma of deciding which tire brand and model to replace two worn out tires with. There may be similar tread patterns, but nothing exact, unless we are lucky enough to find the exact same brand/model of tire a few years from now. (Tire manufacturers are continually changing and improving their products.)
The 2008 CR-V Owners Manual has this on Page 306:I agree about good tires on all four corners - in a perfect world, that is. However, the OP is talking about buying only 2 and putting them on the front. That I don't agree with.
There are also comments on the same page about replacing them with the same size, load range, speed rating, and maximum cold pressure rating. In other words, don't mix sizes.It is best to replace all four tires at
the same time. If that is not possible
or necessary, replace the two front
tires or two rear tires as a pair.
Thank you for that reference.The 2008 CR-V Owners Manual has this on Page 306:
It is best to replace all four tires at
the same time. If that is not possible
or necessary, replace the two front
tires or two rear tires as a pair.
I won't play the game of posting a long list of links that clearly state that new tires should go on the rears for the reason I stated. Tire companies, insurance companies, tire dealers, tech magazines, etc. I know that you can find those links on your own. I also won't jump in my car and go take a picture of the signs in the local tire shops that say they will only install 2 new tires on the rear (some may with a signed release).It is best to replace all four tires at
the same time. If that is not possible
or necessary, replace the two front
tires or two rear tires as a pair. If you
replace just the front tires, move the
rear tires to the front, and install the
new tires on the rear.
Not a valid comparison, since the Odyssey does not have Real Time AWD.On page 356 of the 2006 Odyssey manual, it says just a bit more: (My emphasis added)
Nothing to say about all the links that say AWD, 2WD, 4WD, car, truck, SUV - doesn't matter?Not a valid comparison, since the Odyssey does not have Real Time AWD.
Yes, Mr. President.I don't consider anyone a better expert on tires than me
I'm not really sure what say to that. Well, actually I am sure. That can only mean that you've never, ever looked. A simple search of anything like new tires front or rear will return hit after hit stating what you claim to never, ever have seen.I have never, ever seen a single online reference or sign in a tire shop saying this.
I absolutely agree, and have done the same thing over the years. Still do.Nothing like a tire or oil thread to get some opinions and thoughts shared!
Tire Rack has some tire rating charts that provide some thoughts/opinions from others who claim to have purchased tires for a variety of vehicles. As I live in an area where we get some snow and ice each year what others say about those categories are something I consider.
I am an oldster as I worked in and around the tire business back in the early 70's when radials were first making their appearance on passenger cars here in the states.
I have with only a couple of exceptions always purchased all four tires at the same time. I don't know what the average tire sells for these days but if I use a price of $200 per tire and I make the assumption that I will get 3 years out of the tire it costs me less than $6/tire per month to provide the safety and security of knowing what is between me and the road. In my mind the benefit far outweighs the cash outlay.
For my SUV/Car applications I have been using a variety of Michelins for the last 30 years and have been pleased with the performance. I always consider other brands but when the dust has settled I've come back to the tried and true. I'll be in market for tires on our CR-V probably in the next couple of years and I'll will be interested in what others have purchased here.
Happy New Year to All!