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Dear Honda,

I have purchased two cars from you in the last 3 months, and I am going to have to buy another new car this week. This is because, apparently, the Honda CRV Touring Turbo is ridiculously easy to steal! The first time, I chalked it up to bad luck. But then, less than 3 months later, my car is stolen, again! I am trying to understand how Honda does not take any measures to ensure that their cars can not be stolen. Why is Honda telling me that I need after market work done in order to secure my vehicle? Why do I need security cameras and kill switches, and steering wheel locks, rather than HONDA taking some initiative and FIXING this problem? I may sound irate. I may sound frustrated. But I'll bet that I'm not alone. Anyone else in Toronto have their Honda stolen out of their driveway? Please, tell Honda. Let's try to make a change in the way this company "secures" their vehicles. I think we need to let Honda know that we have had enough of their lack of care here. They expect the insurers to pay out, so "no big deal?" This is not ok. Honda needs to look into this and buyers need to put some pressure on Honda to make changes.

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Any car car be stolen even with the best security systems! Did they ever find them? If it was just some kids then maybe an aftermarket security system would work for you. I know some insurance companies will give a discount for having one.
 

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Unfortunately not ? these guys were pros. Our insurance rep believes the fob was copied in a mall parking lot when we started the car, then they followed us home. The only way they could do that twice is if they were watching us to copy the fob a second time. And I agree that it can happen to most major brands, but I've been told by the police that Honda CRVs are "hot" right now, so I believe Honda should do everything in its power to secure their most stolen vehicle before insurance companies decide to hike their prices even more on CRVs
 

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Well then maybe it would be a good idea to get a security alarm system or at least some kind of motion detector system in your driveway. Normally the pros steal older cars so they can sell them to people who cut them up and sell the parts.
 

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Any car can get stolen. It has nothing to do with the anti-theft system with the car. It’s just that Honda used parts are in high demand, a lot of Honda parts are interchangeable with other Honda or other makes and also there are a lot of Honda on the road w/ demand for parts are high.
Try putting a brand new vw. No one would bother with it.
 

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Geez, that’s horrible luck. If you have a garage then park it in there. Otherwise I would definitely get an aftermarket security system installed that disables the vehicle from being driven. Where do you live?


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Dear Honda,

I have purchased two cars from you in the last 3 months, and I am going to have to buy another new car this week. This is because, apparently, the Honda CRV Touring Turbo is ridiculously easy to steal! The first time, I chalked it up to bad luck. But then, less than 3 months later, my car is stolen, again! I am trying to understand how Honda does not take any measures to ensure that their cars can not be stolen. Why is Honda telling me that I need after market work done in order to secure my vehicle? Why do I need security cameras and kill switches, and steering wheel locks, rather than HONDA taking some initiative and FIXING this problem? I may sound irate. I may sound frustrated. But I'll bet that I'm not alone. Anyone else in Toronto have their Honda stolen out of their driveway? Please, tell Honda. Let's try to make a change in the way this company "secures" their vehicles. I think we need to let Honda know that we have had enough of their lack of care here. They expect the insurers to pay out, so "no big deal?" This is not ok. Honda needs to look into this and buyers need to put some pressure on Honda to make changes.

Sincerely,

Felicia
Welcome to the world. Tech is out there and cheaply available. A car comes "in demand" and thieves get the tech. This is NOT a manufacturer issue. You live where there is a high there problem, it's ON YOU to take extra precautions to ensure vehicle isn't stolen.

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Thieves have the systems to read the key fob inside your home and use that not only to get into but also steal your car. You obviously live in an area with one of those gangs.

There are many news reports about this across the world. Here is a video of an actual theft. https://youtu.be/bR8RrmEizVg

One simple precaution for you, regardless of brand of car is to keep the fob inside a metal container.
 

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Actually it is a manufacturer problem. For the price they get for cars these days, I can't think of a reason why I shouldn't be able to have some expectations of decent security. But new cars are easier to steal now than they've ever been. The start button system is the worst idea they've ever come up with, for several reasons, but theft is the biggest. How many people with them check to see if the car is locked after getting out of it with these systems? So how do you know if it's even locking? You don't. And why should you pay $35k+ for a car and have to pay more just to be able to keep it?

Personally, I've stopped even using a fob with my '07. I got a flat key made. Fits easier in the pocket, on a good old fashioned keyring, no constant fumbling around with a giant wad of keys constantly, and more secure. More hands free than a start button system. No fob to be read. Manual locking always makes sure you are checking. Key fobs have been a big gimmick for years but they are way less secure and a big pain to deal with. And I will never buy a vehicle with a start button. The whole concept is just gimmickry, it does not simplify. It makes everything more complex and less secure. Another fine example of how so-called progress takes one step forward and two steps back.

On a side note, there's an article this morning in the local news saying that car break-ins are up - 2,000 reported so far in Austin this year, and it's just getting started. Oh, well. Beware the ides of March!
 

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One simple precaution for you, regardless of brand of car is to keep the fob inside a metal container.
What kind of metal container? Aluminum or steel?

@felicia were your cars parked in a garage?


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What kind of metal container? Aluminum or steel?

@felicia were your cars parked in a garage?


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You can simply wrap the key fob with aluminum foil. It does the same thing as you would put it in either aluminum or steel can.
 

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That is so unfortunate!

A few things though, for starters, one cannot simply scan your key from within your house and steal your car. Auto tech has more security measures in place than just that. However, they COULD intercept an unlock or lock press like the insurance and cops suggested. This is pretty common and can happen to any vehicle. Honda's are always in high demand. They have a lot of compatibility with one another, and a strong resale value.

Someone may have identified you as an easy target. Maybe, you are inviting your misfortune some way?

My suggestions would be to get yourself one or more of the following:
* Security camera
* LowJack
* Enclosed Garage
* GPS tracker (extremely cheap)
* Guard Tiger (Mike Tyson has one)

Other things you can do. Cover your VIN. Most mechanics know how to identify upgrades and packages simply by the VIN. Remove badging that identifies your vehicle as being anything more than ordinary. If you have others living with you, start parking other vehicles in the way. They can't steal it if they can't get it out.

I will say from personal experience, if a seasoned criminal has identified you as being an easy target, they will continue to treat you as a honey pot until you evaluate your security. For the longest time, my family has had routine thefts from the house. They have taken thousands of dollars of expensive tools, equipment, guns, etc. etc. It got to the point they literally would check to see what they can take. The last time, they literally stole cheapo fishing rods. Probably because they just didn't want to leave empty handed.
 

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You can simply wrap the key fob with aluminum foil. It does the same thing as you would put it in either aluminum or steel can.
Good idea but then you have to remove it to drive. We put our keys in an old metal fishing box and was wondering if we should just shut the tool box while at home.


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You have to realize that any system used by a manufacturer has to have a way to override it. The pros will have that info. The only thing you can do it to try and make it harder so they will look elsewhere.

If you use an aftermarket alarm make sure you don't put any stickers on the window identifying the maker. Once they know the maker then then know exactly how to disable it.

If they didn't find either one after a month I would bet they sold it for parts.

We had an auto body shop in a nearby city they got caught buying these cars and using the parts for repairs on damaged cars.
 

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Wow this is scary, thanks for the info
It's the same with any really popular car. Just think in 3 years Honda sold over 1 mil CRVs. If say 5% had an accident that would 50,000 cars that need parts and all the electronic parts in these cars are VERY EXPENSIVE!
 

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Wow this is scary, thanks for the info
It's the same with any really popular car. Just think in 3 years Honda sold over 1 mil CRVs. If say 5% had an accident that would 50,000 cars that need parts and all the electronic parts in these cars are VERY EXPENSIVE!
My Honda. You can continue saying it can happen to any car, but it's happening to Hondas! I have two other brand new cars in the driveway and they are only taking my CRVs. Rather than sitting there and saying it can happen to anyone, listen to what is happening and take steps to make your vehicles more secure! How is Honda promoting the defence that any car can be stolen? It's laughable how little responsibility you are taking for a lack of security with your cars.
 
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