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Why did you Choose the Hybrid?

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I'm curious about why people here made the decision to go with the hybrid drive.
In my case it was NOT the mileage, I would have gone with the hybrid if it got the same, or even lower, mileage than the 1.5T.
I liked the mechanically (but not electronically) simpler drive train.
I have no experience with turbos, GDI or CVTs. There's nothing wrong with them, they are proven technologies, but I know more about induction motors and inverters than I do about those. I'm an electronics tech far more than I am a mechanic, and I am more comfortable with what I understand.
Since I wanted AWD anyway, the upcharge for the hybrid was only about $1200, hardly noticeable from $30K.
I love the smooth power delivery. I did drive the 1.5T first. When I drove the hybrid I knew I was going to buy it before I got off the dealer's lot (but didn't tell them that of course).
Since I bought during Covid, I was able to test drive by myself, a new experience for me, no sales pitches, but they weren't needed.
They weren't letting just anybody take off with a new car, but I had bought from them in the past, and was a steady service customer, so I guess they trusted me.
Why did you opt for the hybrid?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Mr Kilmer is person non-grata here and thus links to his video has been removed.
To @HONDA-UK-DUDE, If this seems harsh, be aware that Scotty has made misleading and downright false statements about Hondas, has advocated for the use of non-Honda approved products in Hondas and suggested ignoring Honda recommendations for service.
The purpose of this site is to help folks get the most out of their Hondas, we don't want to appear to suggest that owners follow his advice.
Everyone is of course free to watch him, I do so myself, he can be entertaining, but I don't consider him a source of reliable information about Hondas.
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To @HONDA-UK-DUDE, If this seems harsh, be aware that Scotty has made misleading and downright false statements about Hondas, has advocated for the use of non-Honda approved products in Hondas and suggested ignoring Honda recommendations for service.
The purpose of this site is to help folks get the most out of their Hondas, we don't want to appear to suggest that owners follow his advice.
Everyone is of course free to watch him, I do so myself, he can be entertaining, but I don't consider him a source of reliable information about Hondas.
Ok fair enough. I always thought he seemed to know what he is talking about, no big deal though thanks for explaining.
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I always thought he seemed to know what he is talking about
Best advice is to completely block him from your YouTube musings/viewings - if only because he is no authority at all on Honda's.

Anyway, back to the thread...

Why else did folks pick the CR-V Hybrid??
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Why else did folks pick the CR-V Hybrid??

I like the fact that you don't see as many CRV's as you do the KIA's, Hyundai's, BMW and AUDI.
Mr Kilmer is person non-grata here and thus links to his video has been removed.
Why? I think he is the perfect justification for ignoring people who criticize hybrids while refusing to even try to understand how they work.
I always thought he seemed to know what he is talking about, no big deal though thanks for explaining.
If he does, he is deliberately misrepresenting it. If he doesn't, he is the idiot he appears to be.
Best advice is to completely block him
But he is soooo amusing. Especially those glasses that make you wonder what he has been smoking.

I really don't need more evidence than this, which I hope doesn't get removed by TheDarkKnight:

youtu.be/JZ6EKLub0gc


This isn't a Prius. The Prius use(s) Atkinson Cycle engines, which (are) small four-cylinder gas engines that don't have cams in them. It's an old design that kind of failed because they work fine but they don't put out enough horsepower. But since they want the biggest gas mileage they can in the Prius they use an Atkinson motor. But this engine, it's just a conventional Toyota four-cylinder engine it's not an Atkinson cycle. It's a normal engine.
Emphasis added.

For the record, the engines Toyota uses in all of their hybrids are their "normal engines," modified to use the Atkinson cycle. The 1.8L engine in the current Prius is the same 1.8L engine that is in the current Corolla, modified to use the Atkinson Cycle. Which means it uses different cams. It has cams.

Note how Scotty, who claims to be an expert mechanic, says they "don't have cams." I don't know for sure, but they probably have "DOHC" imprinted on them somewhere. It means "Dual Over-Head Cams." But even if they don't, "DOHC" is clearly listed in any spec sheet. And clearly evident to any mechanic who (A) knows what a cam is, (B) has looked at the engine, and (C) isn't lying through his teeth. One has to wonder which of these statements does not apply to Scotty in this video.

To be complete, the 2.5L engine in the car Scotty is pointing to is a modified version of the 2.5L DOHC engine in the same-year gas-only Camry. It is also modified to use the Atkinson Cycle.
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Further explanation:

James Atkinson was an inventor of internal combustion engines. He pioneered the idea that it was more efficient for the expansion stroke to be longer than the compression stroke. But he tried to do it by altering the movement of the piston:
This is called the "Atkinson cycle-engine." The point of emphasis is that its mechanical cycle is different than what Otto used, and was quite complicated. The engine failed because that mechanical cycle was unreliable, as you might well imagine.

In modern times, we have better control over the valves. We accomplish what Atkinson wanted by simply closing the intake valves late in the cycle. This is called an "Atkinson-cycle engine." The point of emphasis here is that the power cycle it implements is what Atkinson wanted, rather than the mechanical cycle.

The effect of using the Atkinson-cycle is to (A) reduce power, because less fuel is used in each cycle, (B) make the range of rpms where it works well narrower, but (C) increase efficiency at certain levels of power. This is perfect for a hybrid, since (A) the electric motor can add power back in, (B) the car's speed is not tied as directly to rpms, and (C) it has a battery to buffer the power when the needs of the car differ from the optimum power.
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I'm not getting involved. :ROFLMAO:

Scotty has lots of mechanical knowledge, and has rustled many feathers over the years.

Lets just agree to disagree, and get back on subject shall we? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Havent removed the link, just made it not clickable. Folks can copy/paste if they wish but we're not making it clicky to feed his channel.

And yep, lets get back to the topic as @HONDA-UK-DUDE says :)
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Havent removed the link, just made it not clickable. Folks can copy/paste if they wish but we're not making it clicky to feed his channel.

And yep, lets get back to the topic as @HONDA-UK-DUDE says :)
Sort of back on subject, our neighbours right at the front of our road have been a bit aloof recently since we got our brand new CRV. Anyway, looks like they also have a new car too now.... :ROFLMAO: honestly....:unsure::ROFLMAO:
Sort of back on subject, our neighbours right at the front of our road have been a bit aloof recently since we got our brand new CRV. Anyway, looks like they also have a new car too now.... :ROFLMAO: honestly....:unsure::ROFLMAO:
Imagine they rock up in a White CR-V Hybrid!!
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Imagine they rock up in a White CR-V Hybrid!!
Looks like they bought a 71 plate MG HS, so well down the pecking order there...:ROFLMAO:..no seriously..good for them...good for them..:unsure::p
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Looks like they bought a 71 plate MG HS
Words. Fail. Me. 🤦‍♂️😂
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Imagine they rock up in a White CR-V Hybrid!!
I like white, think it suits the CRV very well. The reason I didn’t buy white was because at the time everyone in the local vicinity drove a white Audi, Mercedes or BMW. The car looks nice in red but hopefully next time everyone else will have moved onto another colour so I can get my first choice without feeling as though I’m following the crowd.
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Looks like they bought a 71 plate MG HS, so well down the pecking order there...:ROFLMAO:..no seriously..good for them...good for them..:unsure::p
I had to look it up, since MG hasn't sold cars in the USA for 40+ years. Actually not a bad looking vehicle. But I can only assume their quality remains abysmal?
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I like white, think it suits the CRV very well. The reason I didn’t buy white was because at the time everyone in the local vicinity drove a white Audi, Mercedes or BMW. The car looks nice in red but hopefully next time everyone else will have moved onto another colour so I can get my first choice without feeling as though I’m following the crowd.
I choose white for fuel economy. White cars do not absorb as much heat as coloured vehicles, so in the summertime the air-con doesn't need to work as hard trying to cool down a car that's been baking in summer sunlight for hours. Our Mazda was dark metallic grey, with black interior, that thing was lethal in the summertime getting into it, it would take at least 20 mins for it to be comfortable enough with the air-con on full blast to cool the car down, a white car on the othr hand wont get anywhere nears as hot, so saving fuel cooling the thing down, and being able to get into it sooner without 3rd degree burns.
I had to look it up, since MG hasn't sold cars in the USA for 40+ years. Actually not a bad looking vehicle. But I can only assume their quality remains abysmal?
Im sure its adequate for their price range, nothing you wouldn't expect. Owned by the chinese now, they offer an 8 year, 80,000 mile warranty/ that's a bit concerning..something doesn't add up there. Even KIA offer a 100,000 mile warranty along with Honda etc..
Im sure its adequate for their price range, nothing you wouldn't expect. Owned by the chinese now, they offer an 8 year, 80,000 mile warranty/ that's a bit concerning..something doesn't add up there. Even KIA offer a 100,000 mile warranty along with Honda etc..
Honda is 3 year/36k full warranty and 5 year/60k powertrain warranty here.
Honda is 3 year/36k full warranty and 5 year/60k powertrain warranty here.
Plus 8 or 10 years (depending on the state) on the HV battery.
Plus 8 or 10 years (depending on the state) on the HV battery.
Thanks. Forgot about that part.
The warranty on mine i think is 5 years or 100,000 miles on the drivetrain; with other variations for paintwork, etc etc etc
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I like white, think it suits the CRV very well. The reason I didn’t buy white was because at the time everyone in the local vicinity drove a white Audi, Mercedes or BMW. The car looks nice in red but hopefully next time everyone else will have moved onto another colour so I can get my first choice without feeling as though I’m following the crowd.
Plain white paint finish is way too stark and glaring for my personal tastes.

Most white paint finishes on vehicles now days though are somewhat "off-white" due to the use of pearl finishes which tend to throttle down the starkness of the white undercoat paint finish.

White Diamond Pearl is probably THE best white paint finish I have seen to date on Hondas, and I really like it. It is even more immune to showing dust and dirt than the stark white paint finish on some brands/models.
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