I completely agree with this assessment.I am a member of other forums and so far, this forum seems to be the worst when it comes to controlling the voice of dissent. Let people vent their frustration and not shutting them down like the Gestapos. I buy a Honda for their reputation and instead of making us whole, Honda is making up excuses.
Yet the end all mother of articles that you use as absolute proof cites 9 cases. 9 out of 250,000 sold per year. And the best part is that we still see tons of users on here and Facebook that continue to claim they have oil dilution, then show us their level and it's perfectly fine.This Consumer Reports article is VINDICATION for those who continued to post about their problem vehicles, even as many forum members and moderators tried to silence them.
There are several members who attempted to keep other members from posting about their problems. Comments such as...
- "There is no sense whining about your problem on the internet."
- "Continuing to post about the problem on this forum will not solve anything."
- "If you are unhappy about the issue, find a constructive way to deal with it."
- "Dealing directly with your dealer/manufacturer is the only way to resolve your issue."
These sheep were desperate to silence any criticism of the vehicle. Yet the article clearly shows that forum posts about the problem had a notable impact on Honda's acknowledgment of the issue and supposedly taking action.
Some relevant quotes from the article...
- "And as Witzig learned when he started researching the issue online, hundreds more have aired their concerns on online forums devoted to Honda owners."
- "While Martin, at Honda, did not say how many of those cars might be affected, he did say, “The irregular high oil level condition is not as widespread as some internet chatter may imply.”
- "Another reason Honda may have acted more quickly in China: pressure from social media. Reuters and others have reported that Honda devised a recall plan for the car in China about a month after Honda owners there deluged the company with complaints on Weibo, the country’s Twitter equivalent, and other social media. "
What are you talking about? You completely missed the point of my post.Yet the end all mother of articles that you use as absolute proof cites 9 cases. 9 out of 250,000 sold per year. And the best part is that we still see tons of users on here and Facebook that continue to claim they have oil dilution, then show us their level and it's perfectly fine.
Is there an issue? Yes. Is it massive? No.
This is one of the most controlling forums for any negative comments. It sees to be almost fearful of saying anything negative about Honda. Must we all defended and say we love our Honda to not have a thread closed?I completely agree with this assessment.
When shopping for a compact SUV several months ago, I was shocked at the illogical lengths many posters here go to defend/protect their vehicles.
Many people here cannot accept/tolerate any dissenting voices. You must drink the Kool-Aid and proclaim the CRV is a superior vehicle, or risk being flamed or dismissed as a 'hater.'
I have created and moderated several forums in the past. Most forums do not give second chances on stances that they have taken. I am a member now on another forum that completely removes any threads that members have been told not to bring up again, they don't just lock them! Do it a second time and your banned. They make it clear that you don't own the forum and if you don't like the rules then leave and create your own forum.As a (former) moderator of several forums, my approach to moderation was always "play nice, or else!"
I fully support what the moderators here are doing.