Outrageous costscand likely not Honda-approved additives. Here, a reasonable price for and oil & filter change and inspection is around $70. Rotate tries for another $15 or so.

Air and cabin air filters are easy FIY jobs with parts costing c. $40.

Run from that dealer and never go back.

 

Absolutely not needed. Use top tier gasoline and correct spec oil and you’re good.

 

What the heck is “oil conditioner”? Some sort of snake oil.

Just use good oil and change it often.

 

Probably a additive pack that they have by BG products or Wynn, usually.

As above, these are money makers for them. These companies supply tools for flushes that save time and make more money for someone on flat rate would benefit greatly. Are they endorsed by manufactures of vehicles today? More than likely not in the case of a transmission flush or maybe a coolant exchange, but here are some...

Equipment – BG Products, Inc.

BG provides high quality products and equipment to dealerships, independent shops, and franchises so they can perform Automotive Maintenance Services on vehicles.

www.bgprod.com

Service advisors and techs usually get a kickback with these products, but unnecessary for a 2020.

 

So our Job says we have to practice doing things a new way..... meaning Honda is doing something new. I get with them and let us old farts now. sometimes older is not wiser but when I see a sales gimmick here is one for sure

 

By chance is this "dealership" located near a boat yard that is having a sale? Or did you go to the P.T. Barnum Honda dealership?

Yeah, I get it that shops can offer anything that they believe customers will buy. You, the customer, have the same right to refuse anything they offer that doesn't compromise safety or drivability. IIRC, Vitalis & Brylcream sold oil conditioners back in the day. Didn't use them back then, can't use them today - have to be a Pledge man. 🦲

Plenty of YT videos out there concerning replacing cabin & engine filters. Both jobs together should only take 20 minutes, with 10 of those minutes rearranging the things inside your glove box that fell out. Total cost for both filters should be well under $40. Also, write in the date & mileage on both filters so that an unscrupulous service writer can't fool you with a similar dirty filter.

Am able to buy my own oil & oil filter, take it to my dealership here & have them change for about $35. Like several other members here, love doing my own wrench work, but getting up & down [mostly up] is starting to be a bit of a bother.

As for tire rotations, purchase your next set of tires at a reputable tire shop. Site sponsor Discount Tires does a fine job in offering great tires along with great service. Most of these have free tire rotations with each purchase. Include in your purchase road hazard protection.

 

Obviously, I'm not charging my daughters enough for oil changes! Especially the times I wash the car afterwards.

Those additions are 'conditioners' for dealer profit. Prices for the other stuff are too high.

 

Find another Honda Dealership Garage.
We bought both of our Hondas from a dealership with a proven track record of good service, after the sale. They do the maintenance and repairs that I have no idea, or ability, on how to tackle. I take care of my own wipers, air filters, and many other DIY within my abilities. We are not pushed; our service advisers let us know when deficiencies are found, pricing presented, but if item is not critical and can be taken care on next trip, I am told so; thankfully, this is more often the case. I generally want OEM parts, including if we need the windshield replaced. We even get our tires replaced by them, and I have compared pricing elsewhere at tire dealers. Bottom line is our family-owned dealership has its good reputation by walking their talk. They sell vehicles with a smart business philosophy: good price, plus good service after the sale, equals return buyers, free word of mouth advertisement, everyone wins. Same philosophy I use as a contractor.

There are excellent dealerships out there, hunt them down.

 

Oh, as far as more information on my CRV. I bought the 2020 CRV EX-L in December 2020. As if January 2023 it just turned over to 12,000 miles. I don't drive much. It is keep in a private garage every night. In Los Angeles, California the weather is very temperate.

 

Keep following that MM and you should be good. Brake fluid will NOT be followed by code in your circumstances. See manual.

 

Save yourself $150 by changing the engine and cabin air filter yourself. Won't take you 20 mins and you won't even get your hands dirty. You can order the filters from Amazon. Plenty of How To Youtube videos on how to do these simple tasks such as this one

Then take your significant other out for a nice dinner with the money you saved.

 

Note, those are not phillips head screws holding down the cover for the air filter. You need J(something) screwdrivers or better yet, a 7mm socket.

 

Wallet flushes

 

Go to YouTube and you can learn how to change your own air and cabin filters. Takes about 10 minutes to change the cabin filter. After you do it one time you can do it in 5 minutes. The air filter is just as easy.

 

I would try to find another Honda dealer. Unless you are purchasing your fuel from "Shaky's Used Fuel Stop", and not using the API recommended oil, there should be no reason to use some type of "conditioner" for either. Buy your air and cabin filter from O'Reilly, NAPA, AutoZone, etc. and do it yourself. It takes longer to remove the hold down nuts on the air filter box than it does to remove and replace the filter and the first time you replace the cabin filter it might seem strange to have to drop the glove box, but if you watch a YouTube video, it will make sense.

Note, those are not phillips head screws holding down the cover for the air filter. You need J(something) screwdrivers or better yet, a 7mm socket.

I used a socket wrench because my air filter nuts were very tight and I didn't want to strip the head. I have a mini-socket with metric heads-easy peasy with it.

 

I just received a flyer from my local Honda dealer about different service options. All of them include was is referred to as Fuel system and Oil conditioner.

These are dealer "up-sells", and NOT an actual Honda service requirement.

Honda never specifies oil conditioners, because the oil specified meets or exceeds all Honda requirements.

Honda prefers you use tier1 fuel in the fuel tank, and NEVER requires a fuel system cleaner. That said, if you put junk grade fuel in, expect issues down the road, and fuel cleaner may or may not prevent it. Stick with tier1 gas.

Tell the dealer, thanks but no thanks.

 

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I see BP/Amoco is no longer on the list. I have been using them for years. Per their website:

"All grades of bp/Amoco gasoline with Invigorate® exceed TOP TIER™ detergent requirements and provide enhanced benefits to our consumers, such as cleaning your engine,3 that TOP TIER™ fuels do not."

 

"All grades of BP/Amoco gasoline with Invigorate® exceed TOP TIER™ detergent requirements and provide enhanced benefits to our consumers, such as cleaning your engine,3 that TOP TIER™ fuels do not."

This was reported years ago...So, I still continue to patronize BP. But most of the time I use Costco (Kirkland) gasoline, since it is 5% cheaper and is Top Tier.

 

When I lived in FL, they pulled most of their stations and switched to Marathons. Known reasons...

I believe to be on the list, you pay a fee, I could be totally wrong, but may be because they are British owned, and top tier is not over there?

 

Up until a few years ago, the GasBuddy app would identify Top Tier gasoline stations. Was handy when you were traveling.

They no longer do that...