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Rear Brake Lights not working

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My 2005 CRV just came back from the "shocks shop" -- But I noted that the rear brake lights no longer work -- Been Googling fuse boxes on CRV-- But I suspect there are regional differences ? ( The last you You Tube video I checked shows the hooter (horn) shares the same fuse -- and it works (the horn / hooter) -- Relays ? (if this is the case -- I have zero idea how to check)

So I checked the rear bulb contact points -- no power at all using a tester (I dont have the owners manual to double confirm I have identified the correct fuse / relay) -- Anybody else ever come across this issue ? (The night time rear lights do work -- its just the brakes -- including the high level light) that wont light up (The shop I took it to for shock absorbers have asked me to bring it back to check -- But I suspect they just want to illustrate that none on the work they done could not have caused the issue ...

My limited understanding of car electrics points to a fuse or a relay -- and on the subject of relays (if this is the case)-- Would this be a Honda OEM required unit or can I source a relay from a local spares shop ?

Or is there a potentail issue I have not consdired ?

I have attached a pic of the box and the lid in the hopes someone can assist with some advice ?
 

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If working before it went into shock shop then they must have disturbed something. If they dont fix then 1st step is to check the fuse. You'll need a circuit diagram to confirm which fuse for your model is correct. In UK model its F7 in engine fuse box (petrol) - which also feeds horn. If fuse is OK then check that there is 12V going to it.
 
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thinking the brake light switch that is down near the brake pedal itself. usually a plunger type switch. when you push on the pedal, the plunger is activated which completes the brake light switch circuit and thus, activates the lights themselves. these do go bad. not often, but they do.

here's a youtube video about changing it. might be of help to you.

2004 Honda Civic Brake Light Switch Replacement, Stop Light Fuse - Bing video
 
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So after a lot of trial and errow with a check light -- Turns out all the bulbs just fused at the same time -- I honestly discounted this intially but eventually checked when I ran out of oher options (I mean -- whats the chances all the bulbs -- including the high level light would burn all out together ?) But after having replaced eveything -- she seems fine (Although there must be an underlying issue(s) that caused this ?)

Anyhow -- thank you for all the input -- it helped me with tremendously on where to look . I hope others see this post if they have the issue and realise that the improbable is also distinctly possible

So after a lot of trial and errow with a check light -- Turns out all the bulbs just fused at the same time -- I honestly discounted this intially but eventually checked when I ran out of oher options (I mean -- whats the chances all the bulbs -- including the high level light would burn all out together ?) But after having replaced eveything -- she seems fine (Although there must be an underlying issue(s) that caused this ?)

Anyhow -- thank you for all the input -- it helped me with tremendously on where to look . I hope others see this post if they have the issue and realise that the improbable is also distinctly possible
And It seems I was not using the tester correctly when I checked the power to the bulbs -- But after a lot of swearing --I eventually "educuated myself with that too :ROFLMAO:
 
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Im not techically minded -- so its possible there was a power surge from one bulb dying, and after the current running through the fuse ? (Which obviously did not blow) -- If so, that must be a design error of sorts -- the chance that one bulb "pops" and it blows the other two ?
 
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Bought an extra bulb for each brakelight connector now -- but would changing bulbs to an LED variery mitigate the risk of this recoccuring ? I dont REALLY want brighter rear bulbs that blind people -- Like some (mostly) local BMW drivers who put on their rear "fog lights" ( I swear they just flick them on to show off its equipped-- we last had fog in 1972) and subseqently blind you when its moderately overcast :ROFLMAO:
 
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Not to say anyone does this.
But, often, one does not notice the brake light bulb going out on one.
Then later another bulb goes out. Still, one does not notice.
Then when one does see it, two or more bulbs are out.
What are the chances that the two or more bulbs burn out nearly the same time?
Pretty good considering they were put into service at the same time and have similar life time or service time.
 
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You make a good point -- But in this case I suspect an electrical "event" as the car being a new purchase, I checked the brake lights the evening before I took her to the shop for struts / Shocks -- simply because she was new "toy" lol Immediately after the install - I noted zero break lights as they reversed the car out the shop (not even the top brake light) -- They claimed total innocence (and I believed them since how would a shock change cause tail light failure on all three ?) Anyhow -- as documented in the threads -- It was in fact all 3 bulbs that popped -- Could be a serious coincidence (possible) -- But my gut says one bulb blew and it whacked the remaining two (post the 10A fuse) -- which was fine . A friend with a Gen 1 CRV said the same thing happened to him (all three bulbs at once ) -- and that could be a timing issue I suppose ? Anyhow -- it was his expereince that got me checking all the bulbs . Im am def no mechanic and certainly not an auto elec -- But since the 3 tail lights run off one fuse -- Is there not logic that if one bulb blows -- the current to the remaining two increases -- and blows them ? This is all after the current has run through the 10 A fuse remember
 
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