Hi All. Could really use some advice. I have a 2017 Honda CRV. Dealer says timing chain failed - metal shavings found in the oil. Only 67k miles.
Repair estimate is 3000 ($1937 for labor) and dealer says car is not safe to drive. An independent mechanic says they could likely repair for about 1k less than the dealer but I'm waiting to hear back on their written estimate. I opened a case with Honda corporate to see if they might provide some good will coverage of the repair since the warranty expired.
I did all recommended oil change/service with the same dealer so I didn’t expect this problem. I brought the car to the dealer in March 2024 when all of the warning lights came on. Of course it didn't happen when the dealer had it so they said they couldn't pull any codes. They said it could be the battery, so I replaced it. After that I'd occasionally get the warning lights, turn the car off and on and it would go away. The warning lights would only come on if I hadn't driven the car in a couple days, so I figured it was just parasitic draw on the battery.
Last week after a long road trip (14hrs driving) all of the warning lights came on and wouldn't go away after turning the car on/off. The dealer records show that I changed the oil at about every 10k miles - I was relying on the service minder to tell me when the car needed service, which in retrospect maybe was not the best approach. The manual says not to add oil between changes since it will affect the minder algorithm.
I also just came across numerous articles about oil dilution problems with this specific engine. Could this have led to excessive wear on the timing chain? Is this repair estimate typical for a dealer? Should I do the repair or trade it in and get a new car, or do the repair and trade it in after to get a better deal? I'm worried that if the oil dilution continues to occur it will cause more damage, and although the dealer said there's no evidence of damage to the valves or cam shaft I'm still wondering if the metal shavings could be coming from those areas as well.
Any feedback/advice would be greatly appreciated...Al.
Repair estimate is 3000 ($1937 for labor) and dealer says car is not safe to drive. An independent mechanic says they could likely repair for about 1k less than the dealer but I'm waiting to hear back on their written estimate. I opened a case with Honda corporate to see if they might provide some good will coverage of the repair since the warranty expired.
I did all recommended oil change/service with the same dealer so I didn’t expect this problem. I brought the car to the dealer in March 2024 when all of the warning lights came on. Of course it didn't happen when the dealer had it so they said they couldn't pull any codes. They said it could be the battery, so I replaced it. After that I'd occasionally get the warning lights, turn the car off and on and it would go away. The warning lights would only come on if I hadn't driven the car in a couple days, so I figured it was just parasitic draw on the battery.
Last week after a long road trip (14hrs driving) all of the warning lights came on and wouldn't go away after turning the car on/off. The dealer records show that I changed the oil at about every 10k miles - I was relying on the service minder to tell me when the car needed service, which in retrospect maybe was not the best approach. The manual says not to add oil between changes since it will affect the minder algorithm.
I also just came across numerous articles about oil dilution problems with this specific engine. Could this have led to excessive wear on the timing chain? Is this repair estimate typical for a dealer? Should I do the repair or trade it in and get a new car, or do the repair and trade it in after to get a better deal? I'm worried that if the oil dilution continues to occur it will cause more damage, and although the dealer said there's no evidence of damage to the valves or cam shaft I'm still wondering if the metal shavings could be coming from those areas as well.
Any feedback/advice would be greatly appreciated...Al.
