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2004 susceptibility to rear negative camber over time?

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Or is designed that way? Both rear wheels seem a little pointed inward at the tops.
 
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Typical as the bushings age.

The factory specs DID have a bit o' negative camber and toe-in. If you try to correct that the rear becomes 'squirrelly'.
 
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Mine are right at the limit, I think one side is just over 1.5 degrees and the other nearly 2. I half remember 2 degrees being the outer limit (0 to 2 if memory serves).

It's not adjustable, but you can buy adjustable arms. You'd need to replace all the bushes first though, and there are thousands of them lol! (well, at least half a dozen each side...).

Be wary of the lower, outer pair of rubber bushes, they are a pig to get in. They have no outer metal sleeve, just rubber with a metal tube in the middle. When you push them in they squish and won't go all the way in. If I had to do them again I'd use the plastic ones which go in from each side...
 
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Be wary of the lower, outer pair of rubber bushes, they are a pig to get in. They have no outer metal sleeve, just rubber with a metal tube in the middle. When you push them in they squish and won't go all the way in. If I had to do them again I'd use the plastic ones which go in from each side...
'There's a tool for that"

It's a tapered cylinder that squishes the flanges in. A press or bench vise is all you need.

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Common problem to see many CRVs of this generation to be "squatting" in the back. Springs get soft, and bushings wear out. Really bad for tire wear, and also handling.

I installed new AM coil-overs a few years ago and it just barely helped. So, I later installed a spacer that sits on top of the coil-over to raise the rear end up. IIRC the spacer was about 1", but now the car sits properly level. I also installed adjustable camber arms, and had all 4 wheels properly aligned. Very happy with it.
 
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Install new rear adjustable control arms, then take it to have the wheels aligned, and all will be good again! I had to do this on my 1st gen V years ago, and I went with a set of TRW ones I bought on Amazon (Borg-Warner's are the same too). Worked like a charm! What happens over time, is the bushings on those upper control arms dry out and/or crack and wear out, and/or the metal of the arms can also fatigue and bend slightly. The adjustable ones are sturdier too. Solid pieces of steel. I just don't know why Honda doesn't go with adjustable rear upper control arms from the factory, so owner's can get the camber adjusted when it's time to do wheel alignments, so the rear doesn't end up eventually squatting like that and wearing out the inner edges of the tires? 🤦🏻‍♂️ Perhaps, they're just doing that because they are lighter, and they want to keep the weight down. IDK? Btw, the adjustable ones are pretty inexpensive too. But, labor to have a mechanic install them might cost a couple hundred bucks.
 
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