Use a test light and check all under the hood fuses (may be visual) and on the interior panel, then use the same test light and see if you have power at the socket if all is good. May be the bulbs.

Do you have foglights, do those work?

 

Use a test light and check all under the hood. Then use the same test light and see if you have power at the socket if all is good. May be the bulbs. Do you have foglights, do those work?

I appreciate the reply and suggestions trying to help but that's not what I am asking.

As I described in the main post it is not the bulbs.

"check all under the hood"

That's what I'm trying to do. The question is where?

If both lights go out the best place to check would be a mid-point of the circuit where it is designed to fail. If the fuse is good then with the circuit broken (fuse removed) I can test the wiring going out to the light and back to the battery to determine where the fault is. Problem is I don't know where that fuse or relay is.

Is there a fuse?
If so, which box and where?

If it is in either fuse box it has a name other than headlights.

 

Please update your ACCOUNT SETTINGS>VEHICLE DETAILS by typing in your trim level and year....

But assuming you do NOT have a V with factory LED headlamps, the easiest thing to do would be to replace BOTH headlamp bulbs.


Often, the surge that occurs when one filament burns out, will take out the other side.

NOTE too that bulbs advertised as "brighter" with usually burn out quicker...

 

Well spit on a brick.
Both bulbs did burn out at the same time.
They were "brighter" philips bulbs, only 5 months old. Though I did put roughly 50k miles on the car in those 5 months so they did get a lot of use. Perhaps they worked for a normal number of operating hours.

Thank you sir.

Still, I haven't had that happen where both burn out at the same time on other vehicles. I'm guessing there is no fuse or relay and they are designed to fail this way?

Either way, thank you, and hopefully this thread saves the next guy time hunting for a fuse that doesn't exist.

And I am not sure what the "V" is. I have an EX-L AWD 1.5L.

yes, i understand, i looked in the manual, and their is no fuse labeled for it, so you will have to check them all. If all are good, and you have power at connector, then you know what the problem is.

You could of solved this already. So, if you have power at the bulbs, replace the bulbs, then when they work, pull some fuses you think may control them, and when they go out, make a note.

Someone here, may have access to a wiring diagram.

No, thank you for the help.

You were spot on.

It just didn't make sense they wouldn't be fused. But it does make sense they would both fail together without fuses interrupting the circuit. I'm curious why honda designed it this way though I think I kind of like it. It's less points of failure and bulbs are cheap.. why not let them act as the fuse? Seems like I should eat some crow.

Either way, thank you both!

 

yes, i understand, i looked in the manual, and their is no fuse labeled for it, so you will have to check them all. If all are good, and you have power at connector, then you know what the problem is.

You could of solved this already. So, if you have power at the bulbs, replace the bulbs, then when they work, pull some fuses you think may control them, and when they go out, make a note.

Someone here, may have access to a wiring diagram. May not be correct, but Im seeing a 30a fuse under the hood as possibility.

 

Welcome, it looks like the fuse is under the hood, labeled I believe...

relay module 1 - 30a

Took some googling, but I think im right. To answer your OP Q.

 

That's where I was thinking it would be... In that fuse "binder" or whatever you want to call it. I'll try to verify that later today when I finish up work and have time to stop and buy new bulbs. Luckily I have a box with dozens of single working bulbs from previous headlight changes so I'm back on the road.

Thank you both very much!

 

Yeah, there's no free lunch with headlight bulbs; if all you have is 55W to "spend", making the beams brighter comes at a cost, and that cost is bulb life. (And "Long Life" bulbs are, surprise, surprise, dimmer.)

 

I'm dogged tired and it's still cold outside so I'm going to check that fuse tomorrow. I'm still confused by how the lights are wired. It would be nice if there was a cheap service manual for this car to pull a wiring diagram.

That said, thank you both again for responding so quickly. The car is for work and it was pretty frustrating to lose so much time messing with this. I just got so fixated on trying to find that fuse. Pretty comical it was the bulbs. I think it took longer to write this reply then to actually repair it once y'all pointed me in the right direction.

May blessings and good fortune fall upon both of you and your loved ones!

 

I'm dogged tired and it's still cold outside so I'm going to check that fuse tomorrow. I'm still confused by how the lights are wired. It would be nice if there was a cheap service manual for this car to pull a wiring diagram.

These two sites are pretty cheap compared to getting it from Honda:

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