The front sensor will throw the codes but driver aids shouldnt be assisting you in inclimate weather as you said

the crv handles great in the snow, even better with non factory tires

 

Yea the stock Bridgestone tires seem like the weak link for winter driving

 

I am in Northern VA as well, driving mostly inside the I81-Route 7- Route 28 - I66 quadrilateral. But today I have not driven even around the block. I am pretty confident the AWD CRV can handle the few inches we have had today, but not so sure about other cars/drivers.

 

Solid for me. The AWD, traction, and stability control systems are light-years ahead of my previous '07 EX-L. I live in the CO Rockies at 9k feet, so lots of snow for many months. Hakkapelita R3 rubber makes it into a fantastic winter machine.

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My only complaint was the front sensor which as others have said is a magnet for ice/snow/dirt debris.

Sadly, any car with such technology will get this problem when caked with snow/crud etc.

 

Camera based system will do better as long as the windscreen stays clear.

 

CR-V's are pretty good in snow. Put Winter Tires on them, they are AWESOME!!!

 

I played around in a Parking Lot knew the lot well not a single pothole or curbstopper, had a blast. if you are not used to the AWD never felt it work, now you know. enjoy your fun, you can whip the car, make it slide and fishtail. I do not bother with the safety Lol

 

You can get some pretty awesome doughnuts going if you have the space and the conditions are just right. But after a few minutes of that the car won't be happy and you will be stuck with all of the error messages cycling on the driver's display . They will go away after a few miles of normal driving though .

By the way, Fishy, where's our video of that??? Please post!

 

Did a couple of minutes of donuts in my HR-V back when I was young and dumb. Now I'm just dumb.

Anyway, the rear diff smelled like burnt garbage and rumbled hard. Diff fluid replacement fixed it, fortunately.

 

I've driven both the CR-V and the RAV-4 in snow and I much prefer the CR-V (obviously, that's why I bought it).
The power delivery to the rear wheels seems "smoother" and more integrated than the RAV, which was harder to predict what it would do.
Under no circumstances can the RAV deliver more than about 30% of total power to the rear, while the CR-V can do a 50/50 split if necessary.
You do have to remember that you don't have the ground clearance of a true off-road vehicle, but for winter roads the CR-V is great.
I do miss my 1985 Bronco with the NP-207 hard lock transfer case and Warn hubs, but nothing is forever.

 

I do miss my 1985 Bronco with the NP-207 hard lock transfer case and Warn hubs, but nothing is forever.

Years ago my client told me her Cherokee was in shop with an expensive fault - the transfer case worn out. I asked how it's possible to wear out a transfer case when she only uses it on road. Apparently her brother had told her to keep 4x4 activated whenever the road is wet (or snowy obviously) to avoid skidding off the road. That's why fully automated AWD exists and I'm glad it does. An average driver should never have to yank transfer case levers going for groceries.

 

Speaking for myself, I'm glad the driver aids fail when covered in frozen precipitation. Those aids are built for normal conditions; the radar has no idea that roads are a slick mess, and will happily maintain following distance as if they are, at worst, wet. That'd totally be a false sense of security.

Your following distance when there's junk on the ground should be far longer than anything the radar is gonna warn you about. And if CMBS were to kick in because it thinks you are about to hit somebody? I'm pretty sure it'd be far too late for that to actually help much.

 

I had a bad experience driving in the snow last night(i 78 in PA) . We have an ex crv with awd. We lost control spun out and hit a guardrail (low speed) and the Brake system, CMBS, LDW, LKAS, ACC failure lights came on. Forgive my ignorance but is awd something you have to turn on? Also did I possibly damage something by hitting the rail? The front bumper/grill suffered external damage with some cracks and needs to be replaced. Under the hood looks intact. Radiator looks like it didn't get pushed in.

 

AWD is on all the time.
Sounds like you may have damaged the radar unit under the "H" logo.

 

AWD is only there to get you going from a stop - it does almost nothing to prevent skidding or to help you stop.

That is why you see so many AWD and 4WD in the ditches and involved in accidents in snow and icy conditions.

Good tires and common sense work better than AWD in snow and ice.

 

Good tires and common sense work better than AWD in snow and ice.

Tires, tires, tires.

Been driving for 30 years. The first and last time I spun out was in 1991 or 1992 with worn Nokian snow tires with studs missing on a live rear axle RWD sedan.

After that I've only gotten proper snow tires and been good since.

 

I remember being on the top of a Mountain going down the Black Diamond. and Man no matter which way I turned I went Straight Because the Ice made me go that way. so the next time I got off the lift I knew how to tackle Ice when going. Oh sorry I am in a car forum:

It's the driver, you need to know your machine, if you got Bald tires, more or less you are asking for trouble. if you got a good set of tires, going the right speed. etc. you'll come out winning then being on the side lines

 

Question: Why is anyone wanting ACC and LKAS during a SNOW STORM. NEVER, and I mean NEVER EVER use cruise control on snow/ice covered roads, that is about the 2nd theing they teach you in Driver Ed, after "depress the brake pedal before starting the engine" (oh wait, they have rendered it impossible to NOT do this w/ this push button start....I kind of miss manual choke )

 

LOL I'm 79 years old this forum is making me chuckle too. I'm a retired oil truck driver 20hears of pulling hose on back roads in New England winters.

 

Someone asked m to take the V and go AWD. her you go

 

This 2021 CRV with AWD is my second one replacing a 17 similar model. I have to admit after having many 4x4's over the years that unfortunately the CRV is not the best in the snow. Sure, it gets you from point a to point b, but it is not as sure-footed as I would feel comfortable with. I love this vehicle, but lets not fool ourselves calling it a great 4x4 because it just isn't, it is a great, efficient compact SUV. Also, ill take 4 wheel drive over all wheel drive any day of the week.

 

I dont think anyone is claiming the CR-V to be superior.

It all boils down to inclement weather, the sense and competency of the driver and how they cope with the former 👍

 

the Minute more or less loss the name Lol.

 

While an i4X4, like the Ford F-150 FX4, is going to be better than an on demand AWD system for heavy snow, the intelligent AWD does have some advantages over the 4X4. The intelligent AWD is able to move power from the front to the rear as needed to improve control -- as opposed to a fixed 50/50 split. In this context, I was able to stay on the road -- where traditional 4X4s were in the ditch. However, intelligent 4X4s, like the aforementioned Ford system and Subaru's Symmetrical AWD, combine some of these advances into a very capable system -- though it remains to be seen if they function as well as an intelligent AWD -- such as the RTAWD, i-VTM4, or SH-AWD. The two later systems are Honda's best AWD technologies.

Lastly, the best technology does not replace common sense. Use proper tires with proper tire pressure, drive appropriate speeds, keep sufficient distance, and let off the gas if you feel a skid.

 

I agree common sense and decent tires goes a long way. My first snow driving experience was in a ‘93 Corolla 5 speed. Had to drive with some finesse to be safe. I think people get thi false sense of security with an awd vehicle and end up taking corners too fast and braking too hard. Of course it helps having a 3rd pedal to engine brake.

 

I’m sure a crv with a set of blizzaks mounted would be as good as a full size pickup in snow or ice as long it’s not too deep

 

Let me know how you make out getting a 900 pound elk in the back, or cleaning it up if you do.

 

I didn't mean to start a full scale 4WD/truck vs CRV AWD debate. My only point is that the CRV AWD is great for what it is intended for which is casual, occasional, light and simple usage.

 

I agree a full size pickup should never be compared to a crossover

 

I have to agree with the person that said it's not the best on snow. I have 2019 and I was slipping and sliding today, and yes I am a careful driver!!

 

My point is that it's good in the snow - within the limit of what it's designed for i.e. lights suburban use. Slipping and sliding is what snow does. The CRV isn't a magic carpet..

I'm on stock tires and I'm happy with the AWD performance it provides. Some people will spin into guardrails but that will happen with any car if people don't drive within the conditions no matter what vehicle. Combine a capable car with a driver that understands the capabilities is a good combination. I like the combination I bought.

 

I had fun in 30 inches of snow so far.
My Crossclimate2 tires did pretty well.
I wouldn't dare do the same with the stock tires.

 

I had fun in 30 inches of snow so far.
My Crossclimate2 tires did pretty well.
I wouldn't dare do the same with the stock tires.

Those are gonna be my next set of tires when I wear out the bridgestones a little more (only 1900 miles so far)

 

And any vehicle's winter performance is, by a large margin, primarily determined by the tires. There is no substitute for proper winter rubber if conditions call for them. I drove an Integra for years through mountain winters with studded winter tires, and it was a beast. I've also driven full size heavy-duty pickups with crappy all-seasons, all-terrains, or mud-terrains on them that were challenging to drive in stormy winter conditions.

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I had the warnings today also. When I went to wipe it off later, I notice the front sensor moves a little bit as if it’s loose. Is this intended?

 

Yes, the cover is easily removed to service the radar. To remove it stick your fingers thru the grill next to either side of the cover. You will feel two plastic tabs, press in slightly and pull, the cover will pop out.

 

Guys and gals. The point was that the CRV is NOT good in the snow period. It is adequate. I am not a good driver, I am a GREAT driver. I have been driving in snow and ice conditions for over 40 years. Plus I have driven trucks, emergency response vehicles, etc. I know what I need to do in my CRV in order to make it do what I need it to do safely in these scenarios, its just that many other vehicles do it better and more intuitively. No offense to anyone, the CRV is a very good vehicle in many weather related scenarios, but snow and ice are not two of them. By the way, it is my second one and there will be a third one.

 

I am not a good driver, I am a GREAT driver.

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