Push the ignition button again Without the pedal depressed and it goes off

 

thanks but no i t goes into ON mode (not engine start but ON mode pushing again,) so in essence your pushing twice then and lights flash outside and all electrical turns on. Not like good olde days with a key, you just pull back to turn of accessories..

 

Is it really that arduous to push a button twice?

 

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Moving to Gen 5 section.

 

Welcome to the keyeless cars.

 

Yes, just push the start button twice to turn it off. That's keyless for you. It can't have on and off option with one push. Impossible. In other words, if the engine is not running, the next logical step is to get it running.

 

Yes, just push the start button twice to turn it off. That's keyless for you. It can't have on and off option with one push. Impossible.

Unless that did it with a long push???? You know, push and hold?

 

no that is a gopro be a hero.

remember you can run the bat for 30 minutes off acc. WHY!

 

I recently bought a new CRV EX. question how do you get out of Accessory mode w/o having to go up higher to ON position to turn off mode?
see below
Thanks

Same thing happens to me.
From Accessory mode, push once - Ignition On mode, Push again - '(dummy) put foot on pedal'. Push again OFF. 3x. One push should be sufficient.
I find the keyless and other features to be not fully developed.

Examples:
Connecting phone either before or after engine started, 'No device connected'. Reconnect several times to be recognized.
Exit vehicle with all doors fully closed - BEEP BEEP BEEP. Close door again - BEEP BEEP BEEP. Slam door (just short of damage) - silence.
Touch door handle - sometimes doors open, sometimes nothing happens. Must press OPEN.
BRAKES SLAMMED ON while driving alone on four lane road with no cars nearby. NOT considered a fault by Honda.
Touch screen occasionally fails to recognize any (bare finger) touch.
To turn on radio requires 3 or more selections. No way to select radio as default.
There is a very nice clock display - buried somewhere in the deep menu tree. I prefer it to the standard default screen - NO DEVICE CONNECTED. No way to select as default.

Dealer wants car for several days to diagnose problems.

I am NOT an enthusiastic Honda owner.

 

I recently bought a new CRV EX. question how do you get out of Accessory mode w/o having to go up higher to ON position to turn off mode?...

I wondered the same thing when I first got my 2019 CRV EX.

Yes, it's not a big deal to push the START/STOP button twice. But it feels wrong to needlessly activate all the ignition electronics -- especially since my foot is off the brake, so I'm not starting the car.

Of course maybe there are instances when you'd want the ignition ON with the engine off. But I think that's a less-likely scenario if you've been in Accessory mode for a few minutes (e.g., listening to the radio).

So maybe someday Honda will put Accessory mode on a timer -- after, say 2 minutes, with your foot off the brake, you'd only push the button once to shutoff Accessory mode.

OK, it's an added complication. Never mind.

 

Yes, it's not a big deal to push the START/STOP button twice.

The OP clearly thinks it is....I mean, pressing a button twice...really....how hard is it?? 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

 

I recently bought a new CRV EX. question how do you get out of Accessory mode w/o having to go up higher to ON position to turn off mode?
see below
Thanks

0 LOCK: Insert and remove the key
in this position.
(q ACCESSORY: Operate the audio system
and other accessories in this position.
(w ON: This is the position when driving.

You are comparing a 3 point switch (key-start) with a button (keyless) here when trying to compare old with new. Apples and oranges. You know own an orange.. so.. time to learn to peel oranges.

Let me just offer that when you purchase a new vehicle.. it is incumbent on you to spend some quality time reading the short version manual (which is still hundreds of pages) to familiarize yourself with the features of your vehicle you intend to drive.

Honda has implemented keyless entry and start across their product lines and has done so in a consistent manner. But if you are coming from an old key-entry/key-start vehicle... then you have some learning to do about keyless and how it does and does not work.

Change sucks.. even for people who consider themselves to be "change agents". But "change embraced" becomes the "new normal". Don't make me pull out any "buggy whip" memes on you.

Good luck.. you will get the hang of it.. and once you do.. you will not regret losing your old mechanical key start system.

 

Just because some system in a motor vehicle works differently than you might prefer =/= a flaw or defect.

And where Honda is concerned.... they very much come across, persistently, as deliberate and mindful as to why they design things the way they do.

Owner understanding, awareness, and acceptance though is an entirely different ball of snakes to contend with.

 

Once again you’re not seeing the big picture Mr Dark Knight ..it’s not the labor of pushing a button twice be serious it’s a matter of going into a higher mode and turning all your electronics on just to turn off the lower mode , there’s no reason for that .it’s a flaw get it? But it is what it is MoveOn!
Thanks all , no mas!

 

Once again you’re not seeing the big picture Mr Dark Knight ..it’s not the labor of pushing a button twice be serious it’s a matter of going into a higher mode and turning all your electronics on just to turn off the lower mode , there’s no reason for that .it’s a flaw get it? But it is what it is MoveOn!
Thanks all , no mas!

Actually, the electronics systems in the vehicle may actually want to be fully cycled on the power up stages before being turned off and going back into sleep mode. A particular software program assumption or dependency might actually require it. I say this because when you turn your vehicle off... not all electronics systems shut down all at once, or in the same manner, or even in the same order each time. If you were to watch the power bus after you shut down, you can observe that it actually takes several minutes before every system is moved to it's low power standby state.

These modern vehicles are as much complex electronics as they are complex mechanical systems. Keep in mind.. theses systems and how they are powered up and down are actually operating on the instructions from one or more system computers that are coded by software engineers. If you know know anything about how software coding and engineering works.... it makes dependency assumptions (just like many hardware systems do) as to how they power up, inter-communicate, and power down.

Given that all the various systems in the gen5 CRV share a common bus, and communicate with one another, it is reasonable to assume that if you begin a partial startup (ie put the vehicle in accessory mode), the most bug free method of sequencing them back down is to NOT leap from step 1 to step 3... and skipping step 2. Well written software would not care and would cover all the possible owner induced corner cases, but it is nearly impossible to cover every possible variation and so predictable subroutine driven power up and power down sequencing would be a software engineering best practice for large volume consumer products (of which a CRV happens to be one).

Note: I am not defending Honda's approach here, only acknowledging that these systems are complex, with lots of inter-dependencies, and generally random sequences if allowed on the part of owners may produce needless issues that result in taking vehicles in for service for "some flaky problem" that cannot be reproduced at the dealer. None of us know the inter-dependencies that Honda grappled with during design, nor are most of us sensitive to the fact that more and more electronic systems in these vehicles are now actual 3rd party systems not even produced by Honda... and subject to specific sequencing of operation, including power down and communication with other subsystems across the common bus.

 

Pray tell.....if its a "flaw", as you say @rayc, why hasnt Honda issued a worldwide recall?

I suggest you ditch the CR-V if you dislike its features that badly.

Fact is, and remains, that you are irked by pressing a button twice. Do you feel the same about your smartphone or any other device you have to touch more than once? 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

 

There are design flaws and weaknesses galore in all modern systems. That is why everyone in all industries continuously upgrades, modifies and improves. Design deficiencies are a fact of life.

You must be one of those fan boys that agreed with Jobs. You are the problem, "it's because you're not holding the phone correctly". LOL!

 

People are very sensitive about a hondas push button start

Who knew

 

Wow I didn’t expect all these attacks and the like. I’ll think twice about posting anything else here in the future. Happy 4th try and enjoy your day. 👍 Ta ta

 

No one is attacking you, either personally or in relation to your question.

Its been highlighted why Honda has made the accessory feature a 2-press sequence, that you deem a "flaw". It isn't a flaw and you evidently are troubled by that and cant seem to grasp that concept.

If you choose never to post here again, its only you that loses out when you do need help. This community has a wealth of knowledge. Try being an adult about things and engage rather than going all out defensive for no justifiable reason. You look very petulant.

 

With all this discussion of the Honda start button behavior, has anybody compared it with any other manufacturer's start button, rather than criticize the OP for questioning why it isn't designed differently? I can tell you that our 15 Ford Escape that we recently traded for the 20 CRV had the exact same behavior. I suspect it is very common, if not widespread within the automotive industry for the start button to work this way.

Like superzar said, sheesh...

 

My 2012 Jaguar XJL operates differently. Without actually starting the car, there are only two modes, rather than 3. It is either ON or OFF. Pushing the start button without the pedal, turns the car on(turns on everything, including the climate control). Obviously, that would drain the battery relatively quickly, and to avoid battery drain, it will automatically turn off after about 10 minutes. If you just want to listen to the radio, without pushing the start button, all you need to do is press the on/off button on the radio. I have installed after market push to start systems in a 99 CR-V and a 2007 Nissan. They operate the same as described by the OP.

 

Never mind about pushing the start button twice what's the deal with having to do a double lock press to get the mirrors to retract.

In what circumstances do you want to lock the car and NOT retract the mirrors so why the double press.

Admittedly it doesn't actually bother me but I thought I should highlight it now whilst there's an ongoing hate campaign against unnecessary button pressing.

 

Admittedly it doesn't actually bother me but I thought I should highlight it now whilst there's an ongoing hate campaign against unnecessary button pressing.

Oil Dilution.... 2.0! 😮

 

The way I look at these sorts of things (feature settings, options, and behavior) is that the manufacturer implements something a particular way, and documents it accordingly. As buyers of mass produced motor vehicles... we are presented with different choices in many cases in the market place and must choose what best matches needs/wants. At the same time.. I think an objective owner understands and accepts that in mass production.... products are designed to serve the broadest audience of customers and that there is literally no pleasing everyone.

Honda knows this. Many owners know this. Some owners simply prefer to complain and somehow pretend that they can negotiate a feature with Honda. Personally, when presented with how something is implemented, the engineer in me generally takes the approach of stepping back a step or two and actually consider why would a manufacturer implement a feature the way they did.... particularly where products like motor vehicles are concerned (which are heavily regulated in so many ways by so many nations).

In reality, some people just like to complain too.... about anything and everything.... no matter how big or how small. Some people love to find every little perceived flaw or defect in a product and focus on that, rather than what is right and proper with a product.

Glass half full VS glass half empty social contests at work... as always. At the end of the day, these threads change nothing where Honda is concerned, but they do make for great exercises in navel gazing and the occasional virtual food fight.

 

Good grief.....😔

 

i need a drink after this thread

 

I really don’t see a problem. This applies to literally all cars with a keyless ignition. My Prius has over 160k and I haven’t seen any problems with it and I do this often because when I switch my car off when I get to work, I switch it to accessory mode immediately so I can listen to the radio for a few more minutes before going into work. No problem at all.

 

I recently bought a new CRV EX. question how do you get out of Accessory mode w/o having to go up higher to ON position to turn off mode?
see below
Thanks

0 LOCK: Insert and remove the key
in this position.
(q ACCESSORY: Operate the audio system
and other accessories in this position.
(w ON: This is the position when driving.