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Counterfeit Honda OEM products?

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Dear all,

I recently read that there could be counterfeit plugs being sold on Amazon or eBay. Just curious, for products such as "Honda Genuine COOLANT (Type-2) (OL999-9011)" (Sold by G.P.S. and Ships from Amazon) and Genuine Honda (25430-PLR-003) Transmission Filter, can those be counterfeit products as well? What are some of the common counterfeit "Genuine Honda" parts being sold on Amazon or eBay? Can you still be buying counterfeit "Genuine Honda" products from dealer or from AutoZone, Oreilly Auto Parts? How to tell if they are real or fake products? Thanks!
 
#5 ·
I just bought honda 50/50 coolant from the honda dealer $13/ gallon sensors and plugs ngk or denso, ebay is fake amazon probably fake, on line probably fake. I buy legit parts and have my trusted mechanic put them in, online is full of fake shit.
How nice I think when I got coolant a few months ago it was over 20 a gallon. I suppose some dealers just rip off in some areas.
 
#4 ·
Yes, there are reports of counterfeit Honda parts, mostly from eBay.

If you’re looking to assure what you’re buying is genuine, then you’ll need to buy from a dealership, whether it’s in store or from a dealership that has an online store. If you’re looking to buy OEM parts, such as NGK spark plugs or Denso oxygen sensors, you go to NGK or Denso’s website and look up the “authorized sellers” and get the product from an “authorized seller”.

The counterfeit makers are getting good at their craft:

 
#6 ·
A few months ago I wanted to buy NGK spark plugs. Rock Auto had a great price, but I was concerned about their origin. On NGK's site Rock Auto wasn't included in their list of distributors. So I emailed NGK and got a response stating that they had not gotten any complaints about Rock Auto. Also said that Rock Auto could be buying from an authorized dealer. They did state that there had been many complaints about plugs sourced from Amazon and Ebay. Caveat emptor.
 
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Sorry I posted my question too quickly. I found some info online, here are some links:

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RockAuo seems to have bad reviews:
 
#8 ·
Bad reviews or not they do a heck of a lot of business. I've only used them a few times for parts like bulbs and plugs. So far I've had no problems; but don't think I'd use them for any vital mechanical or electrical parts. Since they're a vendor here maybe they'd like to respond?
 
#9 ·
lots of ebay and amazon parts are grey market
Overseas they can remanufacture them down to thr bag n label but will fail or be unsafe

only way to get oem is dealer or online dealer store

cheaping out on parts = more money in the long run

alot of people are finding this out now (after alot of us have know. About them for years) when they call a dealer something is out of stock or backorder and they troll around on the net searching for“deals”
 
#10 ·
What I realized is that maybe some online retailers are buying their products from different source - not sure if they are counterfeits or genuine parts. I just purchased one gallon of type2 coolant from Amazon and another gallon from local dealer, and the bottom are different:

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The one on the right (with larger Plastipak font) is the one that I got from local dealer. The one on the left is the one I got from Amazon. Local dealer is only about $5 more expensive so I think I will return the one I ordered from Amazon to have a peace in mind. Other than the bottom, everything else is 100% identical! The vendor on Amazon is called Sold G.P.S.(which has great review)... it's just really difficult to tell whether they are selling real products or not. It's so sad..

Here is another spark plug (counterfeit comparison) video to share with everyone:
 
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What I realized is that maybe some online retailers are buying their products from different source - not sure if they are counterfeits or genuine parts. I just purchased one gallon of type2 coolant from Amazon and another gallon from local dealer, and the bottom are different:

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The one on the right (with larger Plastipak font) is the one that I got from local dealer. The one on the left is the one I got from Amazon. Local dealer is only about $5 more expensive so I think I will return the one I ordered from Amazon to have a peace in mind. Other than the bottom, everything else is 100% identical! The vendor on Amazon is called Sold G.P.S.(which has great review)... it's just really difficult to tell whether they are selling real products or not. It's so sad..
Don't be so quick to condemn that Amazon coolant as fake. I just checked the bottle my shelf which came from the local dealer. Guess what? It's got the same bottom labeling as the left one in your photo. Given that Honda doesn't manufacture the coolant, it's likely that there is more than one supplier for the empty bottles. FYI, Plastipak is a container manufacturer with 7 plants in the U.S. Wouldn't be surprised if logo varied among facilities.
 
#11 ·
Just used the video to compare a set of plugs I bought from Rock Auto. Everything he says about real plugs indicate that the ones I got from Rock Auto are in fact genuine. Happy to know I didn't get ripped off. Interesting that Rock Auto price was $9.20 v $14.59 on Ebay. Caveat Emptor.
 
#13 ·
FWIW - I've ordered a ton of parts from Rock Auto and never had an issue. Even when I did the timing chain and tensioners on my Suzuki everything came from Rock Auto. It amazes me that I can have parts from them shipped to Canada for generally 30% less than what it would cost to go to a Canadian retailer. And it is the Canadian retailers that in my experience generally have the crappiest parts of expensive Chineseium. I'm looking at Canadian Tire right now.

Rock Auto has always been solid. I've also ordered parts from Amazon and generally been happy as well. Maybe I've been lucky? E-Bay though - that's another story. I'm very wary of anything there.
 
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#15 ·
I’ve used Rockauto a ton over the years with no issue. However, I do make sure to buy spark plugs from a local auto parts store to ensure they aren’t counterfeit.
 
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