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Exhaust spring bolt broken

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Hey, new to the forum,

I bought a 2010 Honda CR-V LX 2.4l 4WD. It has 160k miles. I bought it knowing the catalytic converter and muffler were bad (seller told me this). It’s very loud.

Upon inspection I found neither of those things are bad. The nuts and bolts that hold the rear converter to the resonator pipe were totally shot, half inch gap between the pipes. That’s why it was so loud. The studs/bolts had no thread left and were badly rusted to the converter so I couldn’t hammer them out (tried and bent the flange, no worries I bent it back).

Took off the whole rear converter and that’s where the issue in the title started. The spring bolts that hold the rear converter to the front converter were really rusty as well. One of them came free and the other snapped at the head. So the bolt is still threaded into the front cat and I have no idea how to get it out without removing the front cat, which I don’t want to do since the other exhaust bolts might break too. I tried vice grips but the bolt is really tight and there’s not much working room at all.

Just to make it clear, the original problem was that the nuts and bolts holding rear cat to resonator pipe were shot and the pipes weren’t connected. Removed the rear cat and put it in a vise to use an angle grinder to make my own holes for new bolts. Now the spring bolts that hold the front and rear cat together is snapped.

Currently the car is a lot quieter but the front cat area has a leak now since only one bolt is holding the two cats together. I think rear cat and resonator connection is leaking slightly single the Grinder left things a bit rough.

So is there any way to fix this without taking apart the exhaust? I don’t have a welder so that’s not an option. Could take it to a shop but whole point of me doing it was to save money. Thanks
 
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In my experience dealing with exhaust system issues, by the time I've bought the clamp on flanges, donuts, clamps, hangers, pipe pieces, and adapters, I'd spent more than getting a shop to do it. It's the only auto work I'll generally farm out because it's often cheaper, and always faster. If I have to do a cat back system I'll price out the parts, but for repairs, nah. I hate exhausts!
 
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Good call, I think I’ll just leave it as is because it’s much quieter than before. Also if I start touching more fasteners I don’t want them to break. At idle it sounds like a normal car but when pressing the gas the leak becomes more apparent.
 
#4 ·
I bought a flux core welder from Harbor Freight along with a welding mask and gloves.
The exhaust pipe that goes over the right rear axle rusted out.
So got pipe coupler and tack welded the pipe in place.
Then used clamps to seal the deal. Could not get the welder to go all the way around the pipe.
But, when sanding down the pipe to insure the welder would work, I saw solid pipe (not just rust)
So the clamps should work. It really is hard to work under the car when only using floor jacks.
 
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I bought a flux core welder from Harbor Freight along with a welding mask and gloves.
The exhaust pipe that goes over the right rear axle rusted out.
So got pipe coupler and tack welded the pipe in place.
Then used clamps to seal the deal. Could not get the welder to go all the way around the pipe.
But, when sanding down the pipe to insure the welder would work, I saw solid pipe (not just rust)
So the clamps should work. It really is hard to work under the car when only using floor jacks.
Good idea but it’s not going to work for me right now. You said it perfectly, it’s hard working on the floor. Can’t imagine welding like that. Thanks

They do make split-flange repair and hardware kits so you can add a new flanges. I also agree with DerrickT.
I was going to use those but the front cat is very hard to access. With the 4WD models there’s almost no working room. If I could do your option I would. Thanks

Thanks for the tips everyone. I’m just going to leave it as is. Don’t wanna pay too much to get it fixed and don’t have the equipment to do it myself. The car is much quieter now that I’ve fixed the major exhaust leak at the rear cat. You can only hear it a bit now when pressing the gas, otherwise at idle it sounds like nothing is wrong.
 
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You can get a threaded stud out by drilling and a stud extractor.The extractor is harden steel with a tapered left hand worm to
a point.This is screwed into the hole in the stud an thus screws the stud out of the hole.WD-40 and brake fluid having been
applied.Heat can aiso be applied as long as well away from fuel tank or fuel lines.Use a centre punch to mark centre of stud
before drilling.Extractor should be small enough to follow stud through threaded hole.
 
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Jumping on this with the same issue. My girlfriends 2011 crv ex-l awd model has a similar issue. The front cat flange has one spring bolt holding it together, throwing some cat efficiency codes once in a while. I ordered new spring bolts and the donut, but when I looked at it a second time, the only way to get to drill out the broken spring bolt is through the access hole in the casting. Is there a way to use a split flange to repair without drilling out the old fastener? Am I better off removing the converter off the back of the engine and drilling the fasteners out on the bench? Has anyone successfully drilled out that spring bolt through the access hole? This is going to be a driveway job so any advice is welcome.
 
#10 ·
Did you try penetrating oil and a ratchet wrench to un-bolt it?
My advice is to wear eye protection while working under the vehicle
Did you inspect it? Are the bolts threaded into nuts behind the flange?
Or are they threaded into the flange? If threaded into nuts then cut the bolts
And the rest of it should come out with little taps with a hammer??
If threaded into flange then cut it and see if your split flange will go around the old flange??
Or cut off the old flange and weld new flange on??
 
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Just incase anyone else comes across the issue i'm having from before, I did my repair today.
I drilled out the remaining portion of the spring bolt through the access hole in the subframe portion. It was difficult to line up but once I applied any pressure, it popped right out. Unfortunately it was because the weld nut let go. I spent way more time than I'm willing to admit to try to thread a nut onto the new spring bolt, but it was futile. After looking at the old spring bolt and the remains of the broken one, one was clearly much newer than the other. So whoever fixed it last, just replaced the donut and the one spring bolt that was accessible and called it a day. So... it's back on the road, with one bolt and a dream. Here's hoping I get a couple of years out of it before I have to do it again
 
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