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Honda doesn't normally send out letters for product updates.
My understanding is that Honda is sending a letter for this one. I heard or read that somewhere. The letter that Rocky is referring to is, I believe, the actual TSB that the dealer gets. But I think Honda is sending a letter to owners. But again, that's just something I heard or read.
 
I am going to ask my dealer Monday....I have an oil change scheduled (they gave me first two free, only reason why I am not doing it), so I can see what they say...I personally haven't noticed any surging issues.
 
I got to my dealer this morning at 9:05 AM. They had to do paperwork as I was a new customer and the car sat about 10 minutes after it was finished. I was out the door at 9:50 AM. I can't tell any difference in the way it runs.
 
I got to my dealer this morning at 9:05 AM. They had to do paperwork as I was a new customer and the car sat about 10 minutes after it was finished. I was out the door at 9:50 AM. I can't tell any difference in the way it runs.
Good to know. That is fairly consistent with my experience.

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Bummer there isnt a site with everything listed... There is one for jeep (I check all the time since my Jeep is a total piece of ....excrement...)
With Jeep they never told owners about them, it was only if the owner complained about something that applied to that TSB. So I would look them up and go complain about it to get it fixed lol. 40 dealer visits later and the jeep (14 grand cherokee) is still junk...
 
Well, I had my first surge this morning. I was coasting at about 40 MPH, foot off the gas pedal, RPM was about 1500, I think. All of a sudden, the engine revved up to over 3000 for a couple seconds. I sincerely hope that when I take my vehicle in on Saturday, that they don't find an error code, and simply need to install the software update instead of a new transmission.
I had my second surge this morning. This one was scary. I was coasting down a steep road at about 40 MPH, foot off the gas pedal, I'm not sure what the RPM was. Then I heard the engine rev up. I looked at the tach, and it was about 3500 RPM. What was scary was it stayed that way for about 6-7 seconds. I was starting to think that it was never going to let go. What was also scary was that it happened on a hill. I had previously read that it would happen on a flat level road. That's where my previous surge happened.

Just so I'm not ignorant, does the transmission tend to downshift on its own when going down a hill? Even if it does, would the engine rev up to 3500? I'm under the impression that going down a hill would make the transmission UPshift, not DOWNshift, and that you would have to manually make the engine downshift by taking it out of D and shifting into L. But I've never owned a vehicle with a CVT, so I really don't know for sure.
 
The TSB says the dealer needs to check for an error code. If one is present, then the transmission needs to be replaced. If one is not present, then do the software update. My main concern of course is that there will be an error code. A guy I work with claims that if there was to be an error code, my check engine light would come on (even for the transmission). Is this true? (My check engine light is NOT lit.)
 
The TSB says the dealer needs to check for an error code. If one is present, then the transmission needs to be replaced. If one is not present, then do the software update. My main concern of course is that there will be an error code. A guy I work with claims that if there was to be an error code, my check engine light would come on (even for the transmission). Is this true? (My check engine light is NOT lit.)
Yes, if the light is not on, there should not be a code.
 
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I had my second surge this morning. This one was scary. I was coasting down a steep road at about 40 MPH, foot off the gas pedal, I'm not sure what the RPM was. Then I heard the engine rev up. I looked at the tach, and it was about 3500 RPM. What was scary was it stayed that way for about 6-7 seconds. I was starting to think that it was never going to let go. What was also scary was that it happened on a hill. I had previously read that it would happen on a flat level road. That's where my previous surge happened.

Just so I'm not ignorant, does the transmission tend to downshift on its own when going down a hill? Even if it does, would the engine rev up to 3500? I'm under the impression that going down a hill would make the transmission UPshift, not DOWNshift, and that you would have to manually make the engine downshift by taking it out of D and shifting into L. But I've never owned a vehicle with a CVT, so I really don't know for sure.

Your experience has nothing to do with the TSB, in fact what you've experienced is a feature, not a problem. When going downhill and accelerating with foot off the gas the transmission will change ratios to create engine braking. Personally, I wish it didn't "nanny" us quite so much but it's behaving exactly as designed.
 
Your experience has nothing to do with the TSB, in fact what you've experienced is a feature, not a problem. When going downhill and accelerating with foot off the gas the transmission will change ratios to create engine braking. Personally, I wish it didn't "nanny" us quite so much but it's behaving exactly as designed.
I've had a Suzuki Burgman 650 maxi-scooter with an electronically controlled CVT that does the same thing. It has been in production since 2003 and it works very well. It is a great feature as it saves the brakes a lot. The performance of my Burgman 650 CVT helped convince me to buy my CRV.
 
Your experience has nothing to do with the TSB, in fact what you've experienced is a feature, not a problem. When going downhill and accelerating with foot off the gas the transmission will change ratios to create engine braking. Personally, I wish it didn't "nanny" us quite so much but it's behaving exactly as designed.
That is good to know, and a relief. Thanks for the info.
 
Went to dealer for update CVT software. The update failed due to incorrect software for 2015 CRV Touring. Waiting for Honda Support regional manager return for detail.
 
Bummer there isnt a site with everything listed... There is one for jeep (I check all the time since my Jeep is a total piece of ....excrement...)
With Jeep they never told owners about them, it was only if the owner complained about something that applied to that TSB. So I would look them up and go complain about it to get it fixed lol. 40 dealer visits later and the jeep (14 grand cherokee) is still junk...
I can relate! My 2015 CRV Touring was rear ended a couple weeks ago, by a woman who was texting while driving. While she's at the auto body repaired, they gave me a 2016 Jeep Cherokee limited as a loaner. The seats are very comfortable, and the head unit is great(although no android auto), but that's about where the good ends. :) The transmission has very odd shifting patterns and sometimes downshifts to what seems like first. The brake pedal is sometimes soft sometimes hard, and feels very odd. The vehicle handles like a cinderblock or bathtub, very heavy and slow. Only 20mpg, too. I miss my CRV! :)

I'll ask my dealer about this TSB when shes next in for an oil change, in about 5000 more miles.
 
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rhody401 .............. so sorry to learn of your accident. Hope the repairs are completed soon. Amazing difference from the CR-V to 'something' else!

Ours is now nearing 17,000 miles and 19 months old with no problems at all. I wonder if this TSB about the CVTs is for all or just certain ones. I'm thinking I'd rather mine be left alone! Sort of if it isn't broke don't fix it.

On the flip side it is good to know that Honda is trying to take care of owners who have issues.
 
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rhody401 .............. so sorry to learn of your accident. Hope the repairs are completed soon. Amazing difference from the CR-V to 'something' else!

Ours is now nearing 17,000 miles and 19 months old with no problems at all. I wonder if this TSB about the CVTs is for all or just certain ones. I'm thinking I'd rather mine be left alone! Sort of if it isn't broke don't fix it.

On the flip side it is good to know that Honda is trying to take care of owners who have issues.
I think the TSB applies to all CRVs with a CVT which is all 15s and 16s. I don't think it is normally a problem but something that happens only in rare circumstances. The TSB is to eliminate the potential problem before it happens. I had mine done as soon as I knew about it even though it may never happen. I wear a motorcycle helmet with an armored jacket just in case it may be needed in rare circumstances.
 
It's a software update to prevent it from accidentally slipping and ruining the transmission. I see no reason anyone would NOT want the fix :).

As far as the car accident, it was relatively minor. Only $800 worth of damage (replacing the rear bumper cover, no damage underneath). I get it back in 2 more days. Now dealing with this woman's insurance (Allstate) is a REAL ordeal. Every step of the way it has been horrible and I cant get Allstate to return calls. The latest is that they told me to get a rental car, which they will only pay for 2 calendar days, and a day later Enterprise calls and leaves a message that they have declined my claim and have not yet accepted liability for the rear end accident. It's kind of odd, because the police report is 100% clear and they already paid the auto body place. I'll get to the bottom of it tomorrow, on day 4 of 5 for the car rental. Maybe I should have just put it through my insurance, and let them deal with Allstate.

One thing I did do, a week later, is to get a dash cam. The lady denied hitting me even when our cars were connected, and said the damage was there. I was sitting at a red light for about 20 seconds, and she was texting. Very straightforward. The police dealt with her and wrote it up properly. In the future, I want evidence.
 
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