have you looked at this thread?

http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums....com/forums/24-do-yourself-mods/117762-2016-stebel-truck-horn-installation.html

 

Horn install

I had one of those horns on my Civic. It was easy to install and loud! The CR-V install will be a bit more challenging, since there isn't much room behind the grille. I didn't use a relay-just plugged into the OEM connector. The cover is removed by prying up the 8 pins.

 

I'm planning a horn upgrade. I'll probably go with the Stebel Nautilus, as I have one in my Miata and like it. I didn't use a relay in the Miata but I probably will in the CR-V.

I think I'll remove the cover to get at the wiring for the OEM horn, to repurpose the connection, but not attempt to put the new horn there, as there's tons of room elsewhere for it.

Can I just disconnect both the high and low horns, and reuse one set of wires, or is there a reason to leave either of the OEM horns connected?

 

I think there is another thread on replacing the horn. I think the CR-V may have a different horn wiring than the Civic if I am remembering correctly and it caused the individual to search for a non-standard horn.

 

Some OEM horns have two posts and some just ground to the frame. If it only has one post, then the instructions here are informative:

http://www.valkmotive.com/installation-nautilus-419-519-619-vm2-nm2-gp-418-404-415

Remark: If the old horn only has 1 connecting wire, it uses the frame as mass. In this case, the wire should be connected to connection 86 of the relay. Subsequently connect a short piece of wire to one side with a faston female and to the other side with a faston eye. Move the faston female to connection 85 of the relay. Screw the faston eye onto a spot on the frame (mass). The place of the old horn is a good spot. Use a knurled ring to secure a good electrical contact. Such a ring has probably turned up when removing the old horn.

I'm just curious to know if there's any reason not to disconnect a second OEM horn (if there is one). I can't think of any.

 

Horn

I installed air horns with separate trumpets. It would have been easier to install the Wolo horns, but I had a set and wanted to use them. I initially connected the compressor wiring to the connector for the driver's side horn (two wires), but the fuse blew and a 'charging system' warning appeared on the instrument panel. It was easy to install a relay, connecting directly to the battery terminals.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure why one wouldn't use a relay (or why I didn't on the other car...which thankfully has never blown the fuse). I'm ordering a wiring harness with the Nautilus that incorporates the relay.

 

Just replaced my stock horns (2017) with Hella twin trumpets. Had to do some splicing as it is not plug and play.

 

Just bought these and it's plug and play...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EG18S8O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Hi billyrule,

Did you ever get this horn installed? How was the installation?

 

Did anyone check amp draw for the stock horns?

 

Check your owners manual ...look up fuses in maint area...it will tell you what amp powers horn......

 

Just cancelled my Amazon order, it will not arrive until December! So much for Prime ;-)

 

Lucky you did because the connector is for an accord not CRV....I ended up hard wiring the horns... they will work

 

Is there a direct (louder) replacement that will use the same power plugs? I will re-read the thread for the red ones. I wanted a better replacement that the "Badboy" from harbor freight.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the wimpy horn is by design complete with smaller available amperage. Loud horns or low freq horns may be less compatible.

 

The horn on our 2009 RAV-4 was a wimpy sissy horn, just like the horn on the CR-V.
In 2010 I bought the Wolo BadBoy horn to replace the OEM horn. It was not much better than the OEM one, it's been sitting on the shelf ever since.

I bought a Wolo (225-2T) Loud and Chrome Horn Set - 12 Volt, Low and High Tone www_amazon_com/gp/product/B0002Q86LC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Great horn, I wasn't embarrassed to beep it. In 2010 I paid $20, now it's $27.

I wish I had taken them off the RAV-4 when I sold it.

There are a lot of horns out there, but I know that this one is good, and loud, so I ordered another for the CR-V. My primary requirement is that it is adequately loud and doesn't sound like a sissy.

Didn't use a relay, just wired it in in place of the OEM horn.

 

I had to search the forum for the keyword horn to see what everyones thoughts were. I just ordered the necessary parts needed to swap out the stock horn. I ordered the FIAMM 72102 Freeway Blaster HIGH Note Horn and the FIAMM 72112 Freeway Blaster LOW Note Horn. Also got a relay and an inline fuse for it. If it turns out I can't install these horns then I will buy some 01 Accord horns and put those instead.

 

*2017 CR-V Touring*

So I just installed the horns.
My overall call on the process was that it wasn't difficult at all. The horns mentioned in the above post is what was installed.
I also ordered Blue Sea Systems Waterproof In-Line ATO/ATC Fuse Holder , Bussmann (VP/ATC-15-RP) Blue 15 Amp 32V Fast Acting ATC Blade Fuse, (Pack of 25) , HELLA 007794301 Weatherproof 20/40 Amp SPDT Mini Relay with Bracket , and HELLA H84709001 Iso Weatherproof Relay Connector with 12" Leads .
Other than that I went to my local autozone and bought some weatherproof ring terminals to attach to the battery. I already had cable flex conduit, extra spade connectors, electrical tape, and some 14 awg wire.

My first hurdle was mounting the horns. They were to big to fit in the same location of the stock horns. So I went to home depot and bought the longest m8 1.25 I could find along with some fitting washers.
I matched the threads with the stock nut at home depot. They had this M8-1.25 x 90 mm. External Hex Hex-Head Cap Screws (2-Pack) and this 1/4 in. Zinc-Plated Cut Washer (100-Piece). With those I could successfully mount the horns.

The next step was to setup and install the wiring. The weatherproof relay connector I bought fit perfectly but the 12" leads had number labels that did not correspond with the actual relay diagram. I would have assumed that since they were both HELLA then it would have been fine but they were different. The pins of the actual relay have a number inscribed on them so you can trace those to the leads and re-number them. As you can see in the photos below - I installed the relay behind the horn and honestly it was the only place I could find at that moment. I saw that some members had to cut off the OEM connector to connect to the relay but I was hesitant on doing that. I took some spare wire I had laying around that matched the OEM wire gauge and inserted it into both terminals. Hot glued them in and taped it off. I am aware that there is a good to fair chance that melting will occur but I'll take that bet for now - ambient temps are cold enough. Once its gets hotter I will inspect the area and when the time comes I will chop the connector off and just attach them normally.

I am super pleased with the outcome of the new horn install and it's well worth whatever work I put into it.

Battery:

Left:

Right:

 

I plan on swapping out the horns for something oem. In our old 08 Civic I installed an Accord horn which had a much lower tone. I like the fact that it is plug and play.

 

I don't know if you'll find anything with the right connector. This is great work on a complete custom install. I posted a slightly more simple install in the diy section of this site. If you find a truly plug and play solution be sure to post it.

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So what are the odds that some company will make a drop in horn that has the right connector and does not go Meep Meep when turned on? I heard mention of college hill but that does not sound like a certainty.


Rob

 

If someone with more free time than I could both find the right connectors and wire some horns with them I bet they could make a bit of cash and help some folks out. Someone could 3d print them also. The economics make sense for an individual.

The probability a company will do it is based on demand... And the market is people that want new horns but don't want to pay the $100 or so to have a pro wire them in.

Your guess is as good as mine!

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College Hills Honda now has the horn adapters for the new CR-V, you need one per horn.

https://www.collegehillshonda.com/product/0S18.html

 

Thanks, I ordered a pair.


Rob

 

Thanks for the heads up halfempty! Just ordered it!

 

Glad I was able to help. Whomever decided on the new Honda horn sound obviously didn't live in a congested American city.

 

Those adaptors. Are over priced........I just hard wired directly to new horns....a simple DIY project

 

You could but many might prefer to use the existing connectors for backward compatibility.

 

In for two. Thanks

 

The 400/500hz trumpet sounds like a traditional American passenger vehicle horn with difference and sum freqs (100hz, 900hz) being even octave. Not sure what the 335/435hz sounds like with it's uneven octave (100,770hz). Maybe more dramatic or harsh?

 

I'm glad you noticed that too. I thought those were strange frequencies, but I figured they knew what they were doing. The word discord came to mind.

I'll gladly take annoying over wimpy cartoon character. Next week when I get them installed I'll post what I think.

 

I also ordered 2 of the horn adapters. I agree they are overpriced, but there's no way I'd cut my factory wiring harness to save a few dollars.

 

I'm waiting for warmer weather before tearing into this. I'd be grateful for anyone who shows the way while some us wait to thaw.

Pictures of the procedure would be great.

Does anyone know the frequencies of the originals? Hellas have them printed on their horns. I want to get beyond meep meep so I'd like something else, frequency wise.

What are the diameters? Is there room for larger ones?

Hella has a boat load of available horns http://www.hella.com/MicroSite/horns/en/index.html, and their website lets you try out the sounds.

meep meep / thanks

 

Go to diy forum for pics. I'm realizing that I should have posted it here, as no one actually looks there.

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