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New Joying Head Unit No Sound

24K views 38 replies 8 participants last post by  cristianID  
#1 · (Edited)
Hey guys,

I really need to change my factory head unit from my CRV. My car is built in late 2019, Executive trim level (Eastern Europe market which seems identical to Touring trim) and has 8 speakers (1 tweeter and 1 speaker on each door) and a subwoofer in the trunk. The factory HU is the one with android and touch screen, very laggy...
From what I read on this forum, there are highly likely chances to have an external AMP for that subwoofer.
I tried to clarify this aspect but my head unit doesn't come out too much letting enough space to easily unplug those harnesses.
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Though, I found a picture with a HU from a Civic (though the red letters are wrongly added) which seems pretty similar to mine and on the same thread I found the harness wiring diagram. It's a Mitsubishi Electronics Model NR-000.
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I suppose I can confirm my question by checking the same harness and comparing the number of wires which come in the following harness, plus that I have the socket marked with blue arrow.
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^ the harness for the system with AMP has 8 wires (because there is another socket marked with blue)

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^ the harness for the system withouth AMP has 15 wires and the socket is not there

The source of the document is here: https://www.civicx.com/forum/attachments/7-inch-stereo-connectors-pdf.144794/ (uploaded to my thread as well in case the URL is considered advertisement)

I had 2 Joying Head Units on my shortlist and closed to acquire one but they specify that "If your car has 11 speakers or has a factory amplifier with the fiber interface, please do not purchase this head unit."

For those who have CRV Touring and replaced the factory HU, what head unit did you buy? I really need to change this HU...it's a crap.
Could anyone point me some android head units able to use 8 speakers and the subwoofer with external AMP?
 
#6 · (Edited)
I purchased a Joying 9" head unit that I've seen installed on an LX but I have a Touring. On their website, they state that
NOTE: If your car has 11 speakers or has a factory amplifier with the fiber interface, please do not purchase this head unit.
Does the Touring have this? Video for the installation.

Now I've installed the unit, everything is so far in order (steering wheel controls, Bluetooth, backup camera (it doesn't track tho) and navigation/GPS). The only issue I have is that there's absolutely no sound coming from the speakers. The radio is showing radio information so I'm assuming that it's working? Just no sound from the radio, Bluetooth, anything.

I read here and there, something to do with a stereo amplifier harness? Like here: DSP Stereo Amplifier. Or is it something else? Is it another part that I need?

I installed the cable from the radio antenna to the back of the head unit and as mentioned it's picking up the RDS so I assume that's not the issue.
 

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#10 ·
So I'm in this boat right now. I wish I saw your post but I already tried to install it and realized that I'm not getting any sound. Not sure which route I'm going to go but I like the Joying HU so we'll see how much I'm willing to spend.
 
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Dude.. I like it so much and I'm ready to order it anytime (the one with 9" or 10") but... I really don't know how we should deal with the sound connector and the sound itself...
Which is the one you chose?

I found another unit, I discussed with the seller but something is telling me that the seller doesn't know exactly this aspect and confirms by default that the head unit is working with our setup. The "brand" is ZWNAV, can be shipped from warehouses in Europe (delivery less than a week), and here is a link: ZWNAV [ 2 Din Android 10 ] For Honda CRV 2017-2019 DSP

I kept researching and I found a product on ZWNAV page on Aliexpress which seems the same product as the one in the link and it says 4x50W for sound, this confirms what I'm saying. Though, the person I was talking to over messenger(FB) said that the head unit on Aliexpress is a different device and he/she even supposedly asked a technician about this aspect, technician who confirmed the device in the link above is working on my setup. (setup presented with pictures and explained).
I was thinking you can engage the seller too on Facebook and ask about the same situation and see what the seller is answering.
 
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I chose the 9" version because I didn't want my vents to be blocked. I'll have to see the back of the ZWNAV version but it's a double DIN (I guess that's what they're referring to with 2 DIN?). Maybe it may have the appropriate connectors on it.

Where did you contact the seller for the ZWNAV?
 
#15 · (Edited)
you can search ZWNAV on google and you'll get some Facebook results. I don't think you'll understand much if you see the back of the head unit. Each vendor designs the back of the HU and the connectors.. the main issue here is if the HU is designed to output the sound and has the right harness to connect to our connector.

Find below the ZWNAV facebook page:
 
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So I found some more info on the ZWNAV and here's a couple of pictures that they sent me.

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I'm not even sure how it would work? It doesn't even have the Canbus but I spoke to the vendor on AliExpress and they said that the Canbus can be purchased for $50 and added to it.

They also recommended an HD unit that has 2 dials on it and they said that they 100% guarantee that it'll work with our models that has the amplifier.

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If you're able to see if it really is 100% compatible since I don't understand the schematics and don't understand much of this.

Also note, the CRV in the pic with the big screen is the low end CRV. I mentioned this to the vendor and they still insisted that these units will 100% work with Touring models
 
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ROFL.. I had a chat with ZWNAV seller on Aliexpress about the same model (MaxPAD 11.8") and they said the head unit does not support factory cameras... odd
anyways.. explained again my concerns and sent pictures. I've requested a picture with a connector frim this head unit which can connect with our audio connector.

(but from my experience working with asians/chinesse .. they almost all the time have positive answers but they are not telling the truth
sometimes because they don't understand and sometimes because they just don't care..)

anyways, now seriously, I really need to find a replacement for this piece of crap. A 10" or 11" would be perfect (the one you posted above is awesome) but I can survive with a 9" as well.
I'm very confused because there are just 2 ppl (you and I) trying to find a good replacement.. really? there are no other ppl here interested in this topic?:unsure:
 
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hmm.. you don't have carplay and android auto available on your head unit? odd again
I have these features available on my HU but I need a decent android 9 or 10 head unit with at least 9" display. Keep in mind that I have a different level of equipment (trim) on my car. It's Executive, the highest trim sold in Eastern Europe, there 2 more: Elegance (mid class), Lifestyle (low class).
 
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I was reading across different posts and does the Touring have the amp built into the head unit? And I'm currently in discussion with Joying and hopefully they'll have a fix for me or else I'll just end up selling this head unit to someone with an LX model
 
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It looks like the gauge cluster is dependent to the original headunit or the joying headunit overrides something.

- reinstalling the oem headunit displays the wrench icon again

- reinstalling joying's headunit makes the wrench icon disappear. However, you can make it reappear by continuously pressing "Restore intial values" in Car Info > Vehicle personalization. I've already reached out to joying regarding this issue. I hope joying can fix it coz it's annoying 😵
 
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Reviving this thread...

Today I was at a local Honda service for some checks.
Off-topic: an engineer is collecting evidence of an "issue". There is a sound (in high frequency) coming from the engine compartment that appears on decelerating (40km/h to 20km/h). This happened since the beginning, it didn't happen over the night. Though, that engineer is not familiar with this sound, have checked several Honda CRVs automated 2019 having this odd sound. I don't know if this is a bad sign or not, the car is working perfectly. I suppose the final resolution would be "all act the same, proper functionality, no issue".Anyways

On topic: I was complaining to this engineer about several negative aspects, one of which was the tablet. He put me in touch with another guy (highly likely knowing much more on this direction). I explained that I want to change my infotainment system because it's a crapy tablet with much fewer resources but I have several aspects which stop me in doing so:
1. amplifier existence which makes the aftermarket tables incompatible on the sound side
2. lower sound volume (I would say sound quality) on the rear doors speakers even though the equalizer was checked, no wrong settings like fader etc.

The guy explained to me that we can bypass the amplifier, basically wiring all speakers directly to another harness (highly likely acting like a Honda without an external amplifier, wires connected to the bigger harness). This will solve the lower volume on the rear doors (happening probably because the existing amplifier is set like this).
What do you think?
 
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Hey guys, got an awesome update. So after many conversations with the seller and back and forth, they sent me a different cable then what originally came with the head unit. After a couple of test runs, I am glad to say that sound is officially ON! Only thing I need to get now is a version of Netflix that will run and install on the head unit.

  • Phone works (didn't bother installing the mic as the head unit mic is surprisingly good)
  • GPS works great.
  • All videos work great and the sound is very good. Much better than the stock HU.
  • The instrument panel has remained the same, with provide information such as seat belt unbuckled

  • Only things I can complain about is that sometimes the audio can be a bit weird at times. Like if I play music from my phone via Bluetooth, the sound won't kick in right away. But if I go into the app on the HU, there's no issues
  • No Netflix APK supported (if anyone can find an APK for it, I'll try it out. Ive multiple versions off of apkmirror and other sites.)
  • Lastly, there's a bit of the HU near the bottom where light is shining through. Not enough to bother me but it's there.

Now there's plenty of nice features and one is that you can set the timer on the HU to turn off, I've set mine to 10 seconds so that when I've shut the car down but I still want to watch something. Cycling with the push start button won't turn the HU off so my videos don't get interrupted. Having a quick operating HU is sooooo nice now.
 
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